#1886668 - 02/06/08 06:19 PM
Anyone using Midi-Ox with a Roland D50?
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Is anyone using Midi-Ox to load sysex dumps into a Roland D50? If so, what are your buffer and delay settings? TIA
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#1887268 - 02/07/08 04:44 PM
Re: Anyone using Midi-Ox with a Roland D50?
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Got it working...... 
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#1887283 - 02/07/08 05:06 PM
Re: Anyone using Midi-Ox with a Roland D50?
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Is anyone using Midi-Ox to load sysex dumps into a Roland D50? If so, what are your buffer and delay settings? TIA
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Tony,
Out of curiosity, what is Midi-Ox and what format is it? By sys-ex, I assume you mean editable, user program/voice setups. I have the plug-in Musitronics card for saving(as I mentioned in the other thread), but would love to hear of a little more stable way to save D50 patches.
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#1887313 - 02/07/08 06:28 PM
Re: Anyone using Midi-Ox with a Roland D50?
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Midi-OX is a freeware program, considered by many to be THE midi utility program out there. You can find it at:
http://www.midiox.com/
SysEx files are a universal (all manufacturers)midi file format used for loading and saving large banks of patches or simply one patch. A better full explanation can be found at:
http://www.kidnepro.com/blog/sysex-made-simple/
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#1887334 - 02/07/08 07:10 PM
Re: Anyone using Midi-Ox with a Roland D50?
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SysEx files are a universal (all manufacturers)midi file format used for loading and saving large banks of patches or simply one patch...
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Done it many times with hardware modules  . I googled Midi-Ox and apparently it's a Windows librarian. Too bad I'm connected to a Mac setup. Better question would be how do you get a bank of voices, or even a single voice into/out of the D50? Does Midi-Ox have the ability to extract patches via midi, and if so what medium do you use for storage? It might be worth it to take my laptop(XP) downstairs and just toss the patches to a hard drive for archiving. Got an old interface that'll work fine.
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#1887452 - 02/08/08 03:11 AM
Re: Anyone using Midi-Ox with a Roland D50?
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how do you get a bank of voices, or even a single voice into/out of the D50?
You start by hitting the "Data Transfer" button. A number of options will be presented to you in the LCD screen, easy to follow.
Does Midi-Ox have the ability to extract patches via midi, and if so what medium do you use for storage?
Yes. Everything is stored on the computer hard drive.
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#1893057 - 02/17/08 09:10 AM
Re: Anyone using Midi-Ox with a Roland D50?
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Tony,
I'f you read this, no response/help necessary. Not mentioned anywhere(D50 manual, help forums, etc.), but to bulk dump you have to hold the "data transfer" switch while selecting the destination switch and the "enter" switch. Worked perfectly.
Did a re-load and everything went back into the D50 with no problems. Just opening the file in MidiOx automatically started the transfer with no selections at the D50 needed. NOW I can go ahead and change the battery. Thanks for directing me to MidiOx. I'm gonna try to interface with an old Matrix 1000, which has no onboard way to adjust internal parameters.
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#1894298 - 02/19/08 09:30 AM
Re: Anyone using Midi-Ox with a Roland D50?
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Hi Tony,
Thanks for the getback. Just to follow up, every time I tried a dump without holding, MO would register 13 bytes received, indicating a handshake. D50 would say "Waiting". Nothing would happen till I 'exit'ed the D50, then MO would register a total of 19 bytes indicating handshake broken. That was it. No actual data, just a 19 byte file. I went searching for answers, and stumbled on a thread where a guy mentioned holding 'transfer data'. Tried it and presto.. data received. You're absolutely right according to my manual, it just didn't work.
AAR, if you get a chance could you check your data file size for the D50? I think mine was around 36K(it's on a different computer so I can't be sure right now). It'd be nice to have a comparison figure.
I also made a sysex dump directly from the D50 into a song track using Logic, so that'll be a secondary backup. Slowing the track down should allow a bulk load to work.
One other question. When you opened up the D50, did you actually have to remove all 20 screws on the bottom? I don't want to accidently loosen any transformers or such in the process .
Best, Paul
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#1894385 - 02/19/08 11:40 AM
Re: Anyone using Midi-Ox with a Roland D50?
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One other question. When you opened up the D50, did you actually have to remove all 20 screws on the bottom?
Yes. There are three types of screws. Those that are along the perimeter of the bottom, those that are along the back where all the interface jacks are (four if I remember), and more that run down the centre of the base that thread into a frame that acts like a spine running the full length of the keyboard. Very well built actually! After removing the bottom, the battery is right there on the main board sitting in a holder. When flipping the keyboard over, have some support near the modulation/pitch wheel as it sticks above the otherwise flat service. The X/Y control knob can simply be screwed off as it too sticks up quite a bit and is at risk of damage.
Your 36k file size matches mine...
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. I'm at a complete loss as to where to start with this thing. Perhaps you could list a few pointers to get me going. A simple sysex dump would be a great start.
Thanks, T.
