#1789237 - 07/31/07 07:06 AM
Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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Whether it's; a combination of a DI,a stereo pair,MS,or a single large or small diaphragm,I'ld like to hear about your; mic selection,polar pattern,positioning,and an audio clip if you want.
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#1789287 - 07/31/07 08:55 AM
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My go to setup for a steel string acoustic guitar is a pair of AKG C414B-ULS. Set to either cardiod or omni, depending on how much room I want, I place the first one just below the bottom of the bridge high at the butt, 18-24" from the body of the guitar, and aim to the bridge. The second is placed just above the neck at the 12th fret, aiming where the neck and body meet. Typcially I'll pan them hard L/R but this setup colapses to mono perfectly as well.
For classical guitar I like the AT 4041 or on the cheap the Samson CO2, a single mic, in the same position as mic #2 above.
Whatever you do don't point the mic at the sound hole. The result is a very boomy, boxy sound that is definitely not pleasing and impossible to get to sit in a mix.
For vocals, position is critical. Most think that putting the mic high above the singer and having the singer crank their neck back to sing up to the mic is correct. Nothing could be further from the truth. This position causes the esaphogus to press against the windpipe, constricting it and robbing the singer of range and power.
Place the mic below the singer, aiming somewhere between the chin and top of breastbone. Have the singer sing over the mic rather than into it.
The sound of the voice is a combination of sounds from both mouth and chest, and a natural sounding vocal recording captures all of these. Mics placed in front of the mouth capture exessive sibilance and mouth noises that need to later be removed.
Mic choice varies so greatly, style of singer, genre, room acoustics, etc., all play a major factor. My favs are the Rode NTK, AKG 414, SPC12 and Shure SM7. No one works for everyone. Also the pre of choice can make a huge difference.
AFA rooms, I prefer an open medium room, and I'll place a baffle behind the singer to lessen reflections. I dislike booths, they sound too sterile to me.
YMMV.
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#1789299 - 07/31/07 09:30 AM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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Do we assume you are talking about acoustic guitar setups...?
For acoustics...I know a lot of guys have very specific/critical setups...with mics having to be at exact distances and specific positions relative to the guitar.
I like to K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid) whenever possible...and most times I setup one mic (a condenser, often a tube mic) so that's it's just a little below the mid point of the guitar body depending on the position it will be played from (standing or sitting) and then I will just listen to the sound of the guitar coming from the mic and slowly shift/rotate the guitar around relative to the mic until I get the sound I feel is right for that song.
Sometimes I want a lot of low end...sometimes as little as possible...etc.
And often the type of playing and selection of chords/neck position will add to the final setup.
Sometimes I've set up two mics about 6 feet apart and stood between them forming a wide "V".
A lot depends on the song and the arrangement/production...with certain recording decisions being made that are locked into at that time...rather than trying to record everything "generically" using some predetermined, "optimum" setup...and then working it later in the mix.
With electric guitars...I tend to be less fussy. I stick one mic about 18"-24" away from the guitar cab (often a tube mic)...throw a "tent" made of thick quilt-type material over the entire rig (amp, cab and mic)...and that's it.
I get a little air between the mic and the speakers, so it's not that up-close sound...but there is no room sound to speak of thanks to the quilt.
Also makes for easier listening on the ears, as you can crank the amp a bit more with the "tent" over it.
For vocals...depends on the song. I have 2-3 higher-end mics, and it’s usually one of them as they deliver consistently good vocals regardless off the singer…though sometimes you have to find the right match.
As far as singing position...it's pretty much “straight ahead”…not up or down, and anywhere from 12'-14" away from the mic (sometimes greater for BVox)...though you also have to consider what is comfortable for the singer, and sometimes that may not be the most "ideal" recording position, but…you deal with it as best as possible.
The more I do recording…the less I’m focused on worrying about *exact* placements and very critical *one-notch* tweaks…and instead I just go with the flow and let the music be the driving force.
There’s no need to get too anal about everything, as it’s not a laboratory experiment. 
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#1789353 - 07/31/07 11:26 AM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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For electric guitars, again it's style/genre dependant.
For rock or blues, typically a Sennheiser e609 and an SM57 close, with an omni (414 or C4000) in the room. Sometimes I replace the 57 with a modded NTK.
For cleaner tones, I like an AKG C414B-ULS.
The room again plays a huge factor. Also, get the cab/speaker off the floor and away from any walls.
Unlike Miro, I prefer to get a natural room sound rather than isolate and recreate artifically in post.
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#1789435 - 07/31/07 02:26 PM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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If I'm at all unsure of the room, then I track close mics and room mics, rather than a single or pair of mics that capture both together. One of the greatest advantages of DAW recording is basically unlimited track counts.
It doesn't take a million bucks to make a great sounding room. I've done recordings in hallways that sound amazing, it's all about the sound you're looking for.
Some of the greatest guitar and vocal sounds have come from bathrooms of million dollar studios.
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#1789643 - 08/01/07 05:35 AM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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If you are organized in your tracking there's no "sorting" involved. Sorry you find being organized such an invasion of your life you're unwilling to be so for the sake of your clients music.
A room simulator is artificial. as I said, some of the worlds most prestigious studios and artists have used bathrooms, hallways, etc for room sounds.
We're not talking about live sound here, we're talking about recording. Of course live you are going to use digitial processing, the room is what it is.
It is 100% natural if there's no artificial recreation of environment, ie digital reverb, room simulators, etc.
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#1790035 - 08/01/07 07:18 PM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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Hey…let me ask you…. Why does every discussion with you have to turn into you trying to prove that only YOU are recording the "right" way...??? Man…that gets real stale, real quick. Common...there are MANY recording options that are valid...not just the ones YOU choose to employ... 
Probably the most significant question to ask, and the least likely to get answered....
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#1790053 - 08/01/07 08:35 PM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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sorting, sifting, whatever.
1-2 close tracks, 1 room mic. Bummer that's too much for you to handle.
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#1790561 - 08/02/07 08:41 PM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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I rarely use artifical efx, but if I do they are very purposeful and intended to be an "unnatural" sound.
Every room has a sound.
I personally find wiring an extra mic or 2 for the room a very simple task. 2 mics, 2 stands, 2 cables, the end. A competent engineer can do it in about the time it takes to type this post.
I'm editing and comping actual recorded sounds, not adding artifical environment.
As stated before (twice) there are tons of major label songs that have sold millions of copies that have utilized bathrooms, hallways, etc., for recording.
A competent.experienced engineer/producer knows the sound they are looking for long before they even enter the studio to record.
Ain't nothing like the real thing.
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#1790584 - 08/02/07 11:49 PM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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There's more than one way to skin this cat,that's for sure.
I've tried all kinds of different methods with the mics I have available.Usually I go with a spaced pair of LDCs(sometimes unmatching)One at the 12th fret,out about 8-10 inches,in line with the neck,and pointed towards the neck/body joint.The second at the bout,out about 8-10 inches,and pointed at the bridge.I'll try running both of these mics in figure of 8 pattern to reject the vocal and to help prevent phase issues.
I've tried mics a couple of feet away from a self acompanied vocalist,but then found that I could not use the close mics in combination,because they started to sound too close.Perhaps I should have tried a little more distance on the distance mics(four feet or so),or a little more distance on the close mics( a foot to 18 inches).
I do like to make sure I have my tried and true mic methods set up while experimenting with other mics.I have had as many as 8 mics up and recording on a single performer,but I never usually end up using more than 3 at a time in the mix,and sometimes only one.
I try to always keep the 3:1 guideline in practice,and ask the performer to stand,rather than sit,to get the maximum distance between the vocal mic,and the mic I use at the twelve fret,I'll even go as far as to ask them to adjust their guitar strap to lower the guitar. If any of this makes them uncomfortable,or they have a tendancy to sway to the music and cause the image to shift,then I give in,and allow them to sit.
I'll also try a figure of 8 on the vocal mic,to reject the guitar.If the vocals could use a little smoothing,and a little more low freq.content,I'll throw a ribbon on them,and take advantage of the huge proximity effect.
I do however get plenty of room sound with this set-up,but I can postion gobos around the performer to isolate them a little,and soak up some of the reflections.Sometimes I will intentionally create reflections,if a space is to dead,Ill Move the perfomer next to the most reflective surface I can find.
I've recently used single LDC on a folk performer,and found it worked well on strummed tracks,but not as well on the light finger picked tracks.
I will track with multiple mics,and use the ones that best suite the song.
Micing singer/songwriters,who must play guitar and sing at the same time,and getting a great,phase coherant sound,is a far greater challenge to me than ten mics on a drum kit.
Just to chime in on your close micing versus,distance micing.
I'm somewhere in between.
When Bruce Sweden was gracing the music player forums,he always said artificial reverb sounded best when applied to a signal that had a good deal of air btween the mic,and the source.Something about the early reflections being the key to making artificial spaces sound believable.
Thanks for your replies guys.
Edited by audiofreek (08/04/07 11:39 PM)
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#1790686 - 08/03/07 06:51 AM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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Right audiofreek...
There are a lot of very competent, famous engineers that use "artificial" reverb on a regular basis in their tracking/mixing sessions.
Heck...most songs of the last 20 years that have any kind of Plate, Hall or BIG reverb sound...got it either from a "boxed" reverb or from a metal plate.
If one considers the countless hit records that used a Lexicon, Sony, TC Electronics, Eventide (etc.) box or some kind of Plate....to get those lush, reverbs on their tracks...
...then any argument that a “natural” reverb is the only way to go…kinda’ becomes meaningless.
You CAN’T get a Plate, big room, medium/large Hall, cathedral reverb…from a small/medium room…and certainly not from a bathroom or hallway. 
However…if all you ever want is for all your tracks/mixes to have that small/medium room or bathroom or hallway sound…then by all means…record that way.
While it may seem rather “innovative” to use a bathroom for a room sound…
…they mostly use to do that in the old days ‘cuz they had NO other options. And they were tired of using just their one, built reverb room…so for variety they used the hallways, bathrooms and anything else they could.
But….once reverb boxes become readily available and could provide UNLIMITED options for dialing in EXACTLY the reverb you need…most studios got smart real quick.
Of course…some pro studios that still have those big, beautiful, purposely built rooms will still get *some* of their reverb from those rooms.
As far as the bathroom…I just use that to relieve myself and occasionally I’ll sing while taking a shower. Maybe next time I’ll put up a mic in there…
Anyway…this thread is now cycling around…and until I hear a good explanation from audiorulez how he goes about getting those large room, hall, cathedral and plate sounds without using artificial means…I will say ciao’ to this thread. 
I know audiorulez likes playing mindless thread tennis, but I’m bored with it…. 
Seems we go down this road in every thread where audirulez shows up telling us how much more competent he is with audio/recording than anyone else….
Hey...there use to be another guy on these forums awhile back that did the exact same thing.
Ahhhh...what was his name...? Something that started with an "N"...
I wonder it it’s the same…..???....ahhh…maybe it’s just my imagination. 
Speaking of reverb boxes...
Since I still come back out of the DAW and mix OTB, I'm actually looking to get maybe one of the higer-end TC Electronics boxes...if I can find one for a good price.
I already have three outboard Reverb boxes and two delay boxes...but it's nice to have even more flavors/options....
Oh...here is a nice picture (Skywalker Sound) showing the kind of room that is required to get that big room sound.
You can't match it using a hallway or bathroom...but you can use a good reverb box that will come pretty darn close!
Edited by miroslav (08/03/07 07:20 AM)
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#1791428 - 08/04/07 10:06 PM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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Hey…let me ask you…. Why does every discussion with you have to turn into you trying to prove that only YOU are recording the "right" way...??? Man…that gets real stale, real quick. Common...there are MANY recording options that are valid...not just the ones YOU choose to employ... Probably the most significant question to ask, and the least likely to get answered....
Amen to that. There's a reason why people aren't posting and answering as much in here anymore. 
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#1791633 - 08/05/07 03:56 PM
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Whether it's; a combination of a DI,a stereo pair,MS,or a single large or small diaphragm,I'ld like to hear about your; mic selection,polar pattern,positioning,and an audio clip if you want.
Are you looking to buy, or just trolling?
If you are looking to buy, you need to supply some more nformation. Otherwise... well, you see what happens.
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#1791643 - 08/05/07 05:04 PM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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Naaaa....it happens because you have someone that sprinkles condescension in most of his posts.
As in, if you are doing it differently than he is, it must be because of some incompetence or difficulty with your recording techniques…
I was rather hoping more people would jump in and offer up some of their mic setups/techniques...but, I fear no one wants to bother at this point...
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#1791724 - 08/05/07 10:28 PM
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I was hoping to hear a few specifics,in regard to mic selection on Guitar.Perhaps a favorite mic for mono(not an M49,50,or U47).I've been hearing good things about Geffell mics,nickel diaphramns,and such.I guess that's another post.
There are so many ways to record acoustic guitar,and self accompanied vocalists,but few that retain phase,and balance well.
Perhaps there are still some pearls of wisdom someone is will to cast.
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#1792197 - 08/06/07 09:12 PM
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I was hoping to hear a few specifics,in regard to mic selection on Guitar
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Just a thought, but if you're concerned about isolating the singer from the (acoustic) guitar and not worried about stereo imaging, you might take a look at this http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/mics/137203.pdf . They can work wonders when used alongside a good front mic.
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#1792269 - 08/07/07 04:13 AM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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A Blumlein pair ain't a band way to go.
I believe that a lost art is the art of preproduction, wherein you listen to the music with the artist and discuss direction, intention, etc. and throw arond some creative ideas. This is what leads me to start off using any given micing technique. It does not hurt to go to see the performer play a live gig. Then see what happens when you stick him in the studio... this may alter your approach.
In terms of specifics, this is somewhat like cooking dinner, wherein you likely dont' cook the same thing every day, nor do you always cook everything in the same way. Well, some people do, but their supper usually sucks.
The techniques are well-documented, as are the popular choices of gear... and I find it equally important to know the techniques and when to use them to achieve your goal as it is to have a big mic locker ful of great choices... though that doesn't hurt, either.
On the low end you could hunt up a used pair of Oktava MC or MK 012s. These stood up remarkably well to my AKG 451s, 460s, Neumann 84s, etc. for micing acoustic guitar. (Also stood shoulder to shpulder with an old EQ SD mic shootout, splitting top honors with the Gefell in every category, at a fraction of the cost.) But I almost always use two close mics, though not always in the same position. That is about the last of the low budget SD mics that I have tested, so I cannot recommend anything newer, as I just don't play in that particular sandbox. I tend to use an AKG C-28 or 26 with a neumann 84 or 83, though I may use a 451, a Beyer M-88, or one of my Korbys, with either the 47 capsule or the 251 capsule. But I might use the Coles or the old RCA ribbons, depending. Each of these choices has it's place, and the idea is not that I've got some cool mics to choose from, it is that I have options with different sounds to givce me flexibility. Like I said... preproduction for me is the key. Knowing what I want to hear in the end makes the style/gear choice. This is seldom a cookie-cutter business.
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#1792323 - 08/07/07 06:57 AM
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...then any argument that a “natural” reverb is the only way to go…kinda’ becomes meaningless. You CAN’T get a Plate, big room, medium/large Hall, cathedral reverb…from a small/medium room…and certainly not from a bathroom or hallway.
Please show us where any one said this in this thread.
and until I hear a good explanation from audiorulez how he goes about getting those large room, hall, cathedral and plate sounds without using artificial means…I will say ciao’ to this thread.
Good maybe this pissing contest of yours will end then.
FWIW, I would record in a room appropriate for the sound desired. You know like a pro would.
I know audiorulez likes playing mindless thread tennis, but I’m bored with it….
Funny I thought this was an open forum where we are all allowed to express our viewpoints, and not just you without ridicule.
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#1792338 - 08/07/07 07:23 AM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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Please show us where any one said this in this thread.
You made a point of saying you only use "natural" room sounds...and then you went on and on about using hallways and bathrooms.
I'm asking...how do you get big room, hall, cathedral…etc. sounds “naturally”...?
Do you have those types of rooms readily available...always?
Or do you never use that type of room sound in any of your recodings?
Or...do you reach for the digital reverb boxes/Room Sims like the rest of the recording world does?
Funny I thought this was an open forum where we are all allowed to express our viewpoints, and not just you without ridicule.
Well...you sure DO express you opinions...all the time.
I don't see that anyone is stopping you.
Only thing is...you almost always try to put down everyone else’s like only YOU know what is best...
…and that gets old after awhile.
There is room for many different, valid recording approaches. Learn to discuss things in a more cooperative manner so that other people can benefit from everyone’s knowledge…
...including your knowledge.
You obviously know recording...BUT, so do a lot of other people around here. Let's make these threads all postive exchanges...
Edited by miroslav (08/07/07 07:37 AM)
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#1792378 - 08/07/07 08:21 AM
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IOC you answer questions with questions. Is that because no one ever said that a “natural” reverb is the only way to go, or that you can get a Plate, big room, medium/large Hall, cathedral reverb…from a small/medium room, bathroom or hallway?
Well?
Don't worry, we'll help you get that foot out of your mouth.
Guess you forgot to read the entire post again huh, and missed my reply to your question about capturing the appropriate room.
FWIW, I would record in a room appropriate for the sound desired. You know like a pro would.
But to get more specific, yes I have many choices of rooms available between the various studios, churches, etc., that I am affilliated with. One partiuclarly great acoustic environment is the entry to my doctor's office, which is a cylindrical dome about 30 ft high that is absolutely amazing. He's been kind enough to let me wire some ambient mics up there permanently and I can use the space w/o worries of outside interruption anytime weeknights after 8 and all day saturday and sunday. I bring a mobile rig to record.
While I will occasionally reach for a digital processor, I prefer the natural sounds. Sometimes that will include playback of prerecorded sounds into that room as well, another rather useful and well known trick of the pro engineer/producer.
Perhaps if you didn't need to turn everything I post that is not inline with your way into a pissing contest, all these threads would be more positive. You twist words and infer that I'm saying natural verb is the only way to go, yet when asked to back up your shit, you can't, because I never said that. IOW, you made it up. Do you do that to instigate trouble, or do you think it makes you look cool, even thought it's absolute lies?
Stick to what people are actually saying here. Twisting words into what you want them to be to make yourself look right and others wrong just makes you look like an ass.
Just MHO, YMMV.
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#1792406 - 08/07/07 09:31 AM
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OK...I can see this ain't going anywhere…so this is going to be my last post responding specifically to you on this particular thread…as this back-n-forth with you is sidetracking the real topic way too much (not unlike what many of your posts did on the “how much processor” and “laptop” threads on these forums).
There's no foot in my mouth.
You said that "unlike Miro" ...you prefer natural over artificial.
No problem there...I too use natural room sounds from time to time…
…but I went on to say that to get a certain kind of room sound, you do need a purposely built big room, like the pro studios have…
…or you need to actually use a large hall or cathedral (if that’s the room sound you need).
You then kept going on and on about hallways and bathrooms some more…and being generally negative about artificial reverbs…
A room simulator is artificial. as I said, some of the worlds most prestigious studios and artists have used bathrooms, hallways, etc for room sounds.
All I was asking was HOW do you get the BIG Room-Hall type reverbs in your studio if you don’t have a BIG room or Hall…?
The only realistic option is to use digital reverb.
Sure…you can take a portable recording rig along with all the artists and their equipment off to some remote location that has a large room or hall, and do your recording there…
…but how often is that feasible, especially on small-budget projects…?
Get real.
And…how easy is it to schedule recording time in someone else’s big rooms, halls…
…or your doctor’s office..?
Heck…I was never arguing that natural room sounds are bad, or not possible in various small environments…I never said any of that.
I was just pointing out that MOST pro studios DO use artificial reverb quite a lot in their productions…for more than just Big Room/Hall sounds.
But you seemed to go out of your way to pooh-pooh “artificial” reverb and to imply it is non-pro.
You know you did…I now you did…others know you did….
…so, talk about foot-in-mouth.
Come on…can’t we just talk shop without the pooh-poohing and the constant “I’m pro, you’re not” attitude that you seem to always bring to every thread…?
You’ve taken that exact same stance with several other people here…not just me…
…so don’t play innocent now.
I do not want to argue with you (or anyone)…only to discuss & debate audio in a positive way.
Edited by miroslav (08/07/07 09:34 AM)
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#1792439 - 08/07/07 10:34 AM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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That's right, I said I prefer, not I only use, or it's the only way to go, which are the words you put in my mouth. Please, stop refering to my posts without quoting me verbatum.
Scheduling time is tough, it requires actually picking up the phone and dialing or sending an e-mail.
I have keys to the Dr's office, and since I generally want that sound for a specific instrument, it requires only myself, a very easily set up in a few minutes laptop rig, and a musician. Most are thrilled to have access to this incredible sound. Same with the many churches and meeting halls I have access. How did I get that access? I asked. Sometimes I trade services. Sometimes they are gratious to just let me use it. In any case the artists are again thrilled to have access to such incredible acoustics.
Please show via a direct quote, not your made up words, where I implied that anyone pro or not doesn't use artificial reverb, or where I "poo poo'd" it. My only direct comment was "While I will occasionally reach for a digital processor, I prefer the natural sounds." Of course you on the other hand had quite a lot to say about how "today's high quality digital room sims probably sound better than 90% of the real rooms that are available at project & smaller studio level" and how you "personally don't want to have to sift through an unlimited number of tracks in order to edit and mix" because you "have a life."
NOTE: those are direct quotes from you, not made up ones like you do for me.
I have a life as well, however since I care about what my name goes on, I have no problem taking some time to do more than 1 track for an instrument, and keep myself organized so it's not a clusterfuck when mix time comes, you know, like a pro engineer would.
Again, please stop making an ass of yourself by putting words that were not said into others mouths. It does not make them true, it only makes you look like a troll. I'm not the one playing innocent here, and my quotes vs your substitution of words is fact proof of that. Please cease these constant pissing contests, they are neither beneficial or desired here or on any other forum. These forums are for the exchange of ideas and info between those interested in furthering their audio abilities, not for those like you who "have a life" attemting to make up for the pity it is by showing off on forums like this.
I think we would all appreciate it very much, although I only speak for myself, if you refrained from posting unless you have something to contribute that does NOT include trying to disprove anything someone else has posted.
Again I will very politely ask you to stop refering to my posts without quoting me verbatum.
I highly recommend you find yourself either a hobby other than trolling, or a good therapist to deal with the obvious issues you have Miro, before they become even bigger issues and get you into some real trouble.
To the original poster, please don't let Miro's condescending way of controlling the post discourage you from future postings. There are many others here that have very worthwhile contributions to make.
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#1792450 - 08/07/07 10:57 AM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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*sigh*.....
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#1792863 - 08/08/07 07:06 AM
Re: Favorite mic set-up for tracking Vocal and Guitar.
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audiofreek
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I was looking at those cascade mics myself,a freind of mine just had a Fat Head II sen to him.He has invted me over to have a listen,but I haven't got the time yet.
I think a matched pair of the Octava MK 02s are in order,I've got a pair of the AKG 390,Blue Line series with cardioid capsules,they work pretty well.I just would like to have a little more to choose from.
I used to have a pair of the RS PZMs,They sounded really good for acoustic guitar and drum OHs,I got rid of them because of there high self noise,I'm sure the Crowns would be much quieter.
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