#1783377 - 07/18/07 01:58 AM
Plugin Order/Fav's per instrument
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Chip Curtis
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I use Cubase SX3 with Waves Platinum plugins among others. I am looking for advise as to what plugins you guys use and in what order/bus per instrument.
Thanks, Chip
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#1783427 - 07/18/07 07:13 AM
Re: Plugin Order/Fav's per instrument
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audiorulez
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Use what the track calls for. Typcially eq (cut what you have too much of rather than boosting what's missing), maybe some compression. There are no rules of order, however I typically put dynamics before eq, as eq changes will affect the dynamics.
Crutial to any recording is to get the recorded sound going in right when tracking, not trying to fix in the mix.
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#1783446 - 07/18/07 08:37 AM
Re: Plugin Order/Fav's per instrument
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miroslav
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And just to echo that it's a per/song, per/person thing, and to show how everyone is different... 
I usually EQ before any compression.
The thinking is...if your track has any bloated low end or an overly spiky upper mid, or is just a bit unbalanced across it's frequency spectrum...etc...those irregularities can/will trigger the compressor to maybe react when you don't expect/want it to.
By first EQ-ing the track and getting it to sound as balanced as possible EQ-wise...and then compressing, the compressor will work on a broader frequency spectrum of that track, rather than being falsely triggered by some outstanding EQ elements.
Of course...some people will use EQ intentionally to trigger specific compression a specific times...like using the thump of the kick drum to drive a compressor that is compressing the bass guitar so that both instruments “lock” better to each other…
…though that's a more specialized use of compression.
Edited by miroslav (07/18/07 08:46 AM)
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#1783467 - 07/18/07 09:24 AM
Re: Plugin Order/Fav's per instrument
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audiorulez
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I usually EQ before any compression.
The thinking is...if your track has any bloated low end or an overly spiky upper mid, or is just a bit unbalanced across it's frequency spectrum...etc...those irregularities can/will trigger the compressor to maybe react when you don't expect/want it to.
By first EQ-ing the track and getting it to sound as balanced as possible EQ-wise...and then compressing, the compressor will work on a broader frequency spectrum of that track, rather than being falsely triggered by some outstanding EQ elements.
One of many reasons why it's important to take the time to Crutial to get the recorded sound going in right when tracking, not trying to fix in the mix. For me, I'm constantly listening while tracking, and at the end of a tracking session, using nothing more than pan and volume, I do rough mixes for clients for them to review.
I never even turn on any eq until the mix stage. I take the time to get the right mic in the right place, tune the source and put it in the right acoustic environment, so the recorded track needs little to sit properly in the mix.
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#1784074 - 07/19/07 12:51 PM
Re: Plugin Order/Fav's per instrument
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audiorulez
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I never EQ going in either.
When mixing, we all apply some form of EQ to each track in order to get it to sit in the mix properly...even if those tracks were recorded without any EQ and sounded good at the time of tracking.
When you start tracking…and you only have the basic rhythm tracks down…it’s hard to make all your tone decisions against that sparse track count.
Final adjustments are usually made after ALL the tracks have been recorded
NO, we do not ALL do this. While it's generally true that tracks benefit from some eq during the mix, I often find that tracks recorded well do not require eq, or nothing more than a hp or lp filter to sit well.
Proper preproduction is the key. Knowing what you are looking for before you begin tracking, rather than groping in the audio dark can be a huge benefit to getting great tracks from the beginning.
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