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#1691783 - 04/20/06 06:15 PM How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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It is not immediately apparent (to someone as slow as I am) how to contribute to the EQ "Love Letters from Fight Fans" section. The magazine gives no apparent clue, nor does the website, although admittedly I'm probably missing something ridiculously obvious.

In any event, in Jeff Anderson's column about Patch Bays (May 2006, although that page and that page only says May 2005 on the bottom!!!) he uses the example of patching an outboard compressor into a typical studio signal path. The only problem is that in his example he patches the compressor into the chain BEFORE the preamp. Now, there may well be a compressor or two out there that is perfectly happy with mic-level signal, but the vast majority require line level, which means you need to patch it in after the mic pre. I'm sure that Jeff knows this as well as anyone, and it was just a brain-glitch, but for those who might be less experienced, it should be pointed out that that suggested signal chain order in Jeff's article will most likely not work at all.

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#1691784 - 04/23/06 12:01 PM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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Not to come off too critical (as that's always a touchy thing when we talk about EQ magazine around here)... ;\)
...but there are other typos in that article (like referring to a DAW as a DAE)...
...and also the article was probably better off left unpublished, because it only barley scratches the surface of patchbay purpose and use (like many EQ article do these days).

I happen to use patchbays extensively and have been doing so for many years (1/4" and TT)...and I found the article rather vague and generally useless in the way of providing any hard information.
Basically, the article says something like, "pathcbays are handy...go buy some and figure 'em out"...
...DUH! \:D
I just doubt that very many people would want to run out and buy some patchbays after reading that article... \:\(

This is just one more reason why you see so many "newbies"...asking what appear to be the dumbest questions about gear and connectivity...
...but in reality, the information that use to be provided in great detail in most trade mags, has now been reduced to filler between the ads.
Yeah...there are still some deep/lengthy articles...but there are also a LOT of short/useless articles that don't even give your taste buds a decent workout.
Those articles are better left in the word processor, instead of making it to the printed page.

But hey...THAT is the NEW direction of EQ (and some other mags)...according to Eugene, the editor.
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#1691785 - 04/23/06 12:15 PM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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Oh...and just so you don't think I only see the bad side... ;\)

I really enjoyed the "Aural Histories - Dwight Yoakam" article.

I always liked his music/style...and articles like that, let you into some of the thought processes and feelings that existed WHEN the music was being made...which IMO...is often a really BIG part of what kind of finished product you end up with...and not just which mic and how far from the guitar cabinet it was placed.

I love detailed info about gear and it's application...but it should always be coupled with what the people were thinking/saying/feeling at the time they used said gear.
THAT...always makes for good reading, and you walk away feeling like you really GOT something out of it.

I know it’s not easy/simple to ONLY have deep/lengthy articles…but man, you guys need to separate the chaff from the wheat a little better.
If it ain’t got substance…then don’t publish it
...just put another ad in its place… :rolleyes:
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#1691786 - 04/23/06 04:49 PM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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Oh...and Eugene...in the May 06 letters section...in "The EQ Fireside Chats"...

What Pete Prown said about the body typeface being hard to read because it's not a true "black" color, and that it's more of a dark gray...
...he is 100% spot on...!!!
And YOUR response to him…how some of you are 43 and you can read it just fine...
...is pretty lame!
So…do we have to wait until the EQ editorial staff approaches 50 before you adjust the typeface/fonts…???

The topic of the EQ font/typeface selection has been discussed here a few times...and many people think the same way Pete Prown does.
I just don't understand EQ's reluctance to go to a darker, true "black" ink color...and maybe consider using some fonts that not only look “chic”...but that are also easy on the eyes, as it is supposed to be a magazine for reading and not just for looking at the pretty pictures as we flip through!

Does it cost you guys more money to use a true black ink...???...or to use read-friendly fonts...???
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#1691787 - 04/24/06 03:53 PM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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To Littledog: Your absolutely right! I had channel strip (with EQ and compressor) on my mind when I was writing that article! We’ve got a large console in our studio, however we tend to use a lot of external channel strips when tracking. Good catch!

To Microslav: Thanks for taking the time to write. After reading your post, I surfed some common Internet forums to see what sorts of questions people were asking about patchbays. Three out of the four questions that beginners were asking were answered in my article. From a writer’s standpoint, there is a set amount of space, and I have to write for the masses.


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#1691788 - 04/24/06 05:24 PM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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Originally posted by Jeff Anderson:
To Microslav: Thanks for taking the time to write. After reading your post, I surfed some common Internet forums to see what sorts of questions people were asking about patchbays. Three out of the four questions that beginners were asking were answered in my article. From a writer’s standpoint, there is a set amount of space, and I have to write for the masses.
I hear you...and I bet given the space, you would have provided a much more detailed article on PB application.
While I'm sure that's not your call...that’s something I take issue with...the lack of space given to some articles.
I know you can do three more follow-up "short articles"...each one delving a bit deeper into PB application...but it would make better sense to me, for the editors to just let you write it all in one shot...
…that way, the folks reading…would get the WHOLE picture and not just the entry-level overview.
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#1691789 - 04/24/06 11:20 PM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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It is not immediately apparent (to someone as slow as I am) how to contribute to the EQ "Love Letters from Fight Fans" section. The magazine gives no apparent clue, nor does the website, although admittedly I'm probably missing something ridiculously obvious.
Littledog,

The avenue for reaching us regarding "Love Letters..." is, admittedly, probably less than apparent. In the front of the magazine the office address, being 2800 Campus Drive San Mateo, CA 94403, is listed--which is the route to take if you are a snail-mail romantic. You can always senda letter to the attention of "editor" or, more specifically, Eugene Robinson or myself. As far as taking the electronic route, our contact info is on the bottom bar under "contact us" which, to an eye even minimally less than keen, can be easily overlooked. Trust me when I say this wasn't designed to discourage you from contacting us.

Nevertheless, we do print our letters, as we will print this one (assuming you have no objections) along with Jeff's comments and a heart-felt apology for our typographical errors.

Please feel free to contact us at any time with any questions, comments, concerns, threats of grievous bodily injury, or propositions to loan us ridiculous amounts of cash, hahaha.

Best,

Matt Harper

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#1691790 - 04/25/06 12:08 AM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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Originally posted by miroslav:
Not to come off too critical (as that's always a touchy thing when we talk about EQ magazine around here)... ;\)
Hey...that's unfair. You forget that we love a good fight, hahaha.

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Originally posted by miroslav:
...but there are other typos in that article (like referring to a DAW as a DAE)...
You are absolutely right. Perhaps if our writers, and ourselves, quit drinking we wouldn't have such a hard time distinguishing between W's and E's; I mean, the proximity is awfully close on my keyboard, hahaha.

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Originally posted by miroslav:
...and also the article was probably better off left unpublished, because it only barley scratches the surface of patchbay purpose and use (like many EQ article do these days).
Well you are on us for calling it a DAE, while you claim it "barley scratches the surface." Maybe we're all just "artistic" when it comes to our terminology, hahaha.

As far as the article not being in depth enough for your tastes: I believe the context of which the article was written is something to take into consideration. "Organizing your studio with a patchbay" almost implies that the most suited reader for the piece is somebody that is just now acquiring enough gear and getting serious enough with their home rig to begin stringing everything together via a patchbay--in layman's terms it's probably geared towards the burgeoning studiohound, and thus should be more of a "broad" piece and a bit less specialized.

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Originally posted by miroslav:
I happen to use patchbays extensively and have been doing so for many years (1/4" and TT)...and I found the article rather vague and generally useless in the way of providing any hard information.
But, as pointed out above, the article was intended for an audience besides those, like yourself, who have been utilizing patchbays for "many years". Really, as you've been "organizing your studio with a patchbay" for way longer than the kids, what information would you have hoped to gain from a piece written under that pretense?

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Originally posted by miroslav:
Basically, the article says something like, "pathcbays are handy...go buy some and figure 'em out"...
...DUH! \:D
Well, as you are no neophyte, I can see where it may appear that way, but also keep in mind that someone explaining algebra to a freshman in highschool would probably bore a professor in giving the same instructions. This doesn't mean that entry level algebra is knowledge best served unlearned. We all started somewhere, and somebody once had to explain to you the importance/convenience of adding a patch bay to your rig, no?

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I just doubt that very many people would want to run out and buy some patchbays after reading that article... \:\(
The intention is not for the section to double as an advertisement, bit if you think the basic practical applications of patchbays were neglected in the piece...

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Originally posted by miroslav:
This is just one more reason why you see so many "newbies"...asking what appear to be the dumbest questions about gear and connectivity...
Give the "newbies" a break. As I said: they must learn also. Those are the guys that are going to be at the forefront of this game in 5-10 years. We, as a publication, must take them into account--lest we be "out of touch" or, at worst, neglectful. And you should also. By answering those "dumb questions" you/we are, in essence, playing the role of a mentor, and that's both noble and important.

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Originally posted by miroslav:
...but in reality, the information that use to be provided in great detail in most trade mags, has now been reduced to filler between the ads.
Yeah...there are still some deep/lengthy articles...but there are also a LOT of short/useless articles that don't even give your taste buds a decent workout.
Well, from an editorial standpoint, the front of the magazine is what we dub "front matter", in that it is kind of a warmup to the workout (which I think we more than exhausted our readers with information as you got into the middle section of the issue i.e. The Mega May Monitor section, which was quite indepth). If you take a look at all great publications, not even in the trade realm but also in the consumer realm, you'll see that there is a definite formula to presenting information in a magazine, and that formula includes smaller articles making up a lead-in, front matter section. In May, we had ~10 pages devoted to "front matter" out of 96. With a percentage like that, I think it's a bit unfair to call the entire magazine "superficial". Think of it as wetting your tongue, much like a bisquet before your steak dinner it serves a different purpose.

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Those articles are better left in the word processor, instead of making it to the printed page.
The long-standing laws of journalism beg to differ, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I urge you to keep an eye out for next month's Tech Bench, which Jeff also penned. I'm sure you'll find it a bit more geared towards your expertise level.

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But hey...THAT is the NEW direction of EQ (and some other mags)...according to Eugene, the editor.
EQ is different now, as opposed to what it was before. There's reasons for the change in editorial and for the focus shifting to include producers/engineers from all walks of life; to be in touch and to provide a service to everyone from beginners to the adept. You're obviously a bit of veteran, and while the change may at first be uncomfortable to you (as change always is) I really doubt there is nothing that you can gain from reading pieces that are geared towards people in the field that differ from yourself. Hell, going back to basics is good for the soul sometimes; but it's not as if we have left "you" behind. Sure, you may find BT or Jermaine Dupree or TV on the Radio on the cover, but you also find Bob Heil (who graced the May issue), Eddie Kramer, Ken Scott, and all sorts of the old guard represented--and they all agree with our direction and are only too happy to participate in the magazine...going so far to pen their own pieces and become totally proactive in what it is that we are doing. Furthermore, the sections of the magazine that are probably more suited to your tastes have actually been expanded in the past few months (such as Gearhead), taking away from the "front matter" that you have a distaste for. SO if anything, the "new direction" is only continuing to take you into consideration.

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#1691791 - 04/25/06 12:18 AM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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Oh...and Eugene...in the May 06 letters section...in "The EQ Fireside Chats"...

What Pete Prown said about the body typeface being hard to read because it's not a true "black" color, and that it's more of a dark gray...
...he is 100% spot on...!!!
And YOUR response to him…how some of you are 43 and you can read it just fine...
...is pretty lame!
So…do we have to wait until the EQ editorial staff approaches 50 before you adjust the typeface/fonts…???

The topic of the EQ font/typeface selection has been discussed here a few times...and many people think the same way Pete Prown does.
I just don't understand EQ's reluctance to go to a darker, true "black" ink color...and maybe consider using some fonts that not only look “chic”...but that are also easy on the eyes, as it is supposed to be a magazine for reading and not just for looking at the pretty pictures as we flip through!

Does it cost you guys more money to use a true black ink...???...or to use read-friendly fonts...???
Also, all complaints are taken into consideration. It is important to keep design in mind when tackling such issues as typeface/font, but I'm afraid I can't empathize with you much. I mean, I'm a young man. Handsome too, for what that's worth, hahaha, but a young man with 20/20 vision; thus I have no problems reading the magazine. Also, our design man--the great and talented Doug--is a bespectacled man, which I assume would imply less than perfect vision, and he obviously has no problem reading the type in the layout. I guess given the marginal amounts of complaints we've received regarding this issue, and the overwhelming responses we get praising us for the way our magazine looks, it's an issue of pleasing everybody--which, as Abraham Lincoln said, is something you can't do all the time...

...wait, I think Lincoln said something about getting away with lying all the time, not putting out magazines, hahaha. Nonetheless: please quit reading with your toes, hahaha.

Seriously though, this has been noted and I assure we'll discuss this.

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#1691792 - 04/25/06 12:34 AM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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I hear you...and I bet given the space, you would have provided a much more detailed article on PB application.
I do have to interject here to give you assurance as to Jeff's expertise in the field, though I'll leave it to him to post his resume. The guy has got way too many awards relating to the recording arts that he nary has space for his Neve. I mean, I can't even remember what achievement the gold duck represents, and I'm not much sure that I want to know...

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While I'm sure that's not your call...that’s something I take issue with...the lack of space given to some articles.
It's not his call; it's ours--but a call we don't particularly like to make. As far as folio size goes: you and me both, my man. I can't even begin to imagine the joy I would feel if we could turn out 200 pages a month. It's not as if we lack content; there's so much can be said about this little trade of ours, and we all wish we had an infinite amount of real estate to work with

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Originally posted by miroslav:
I know you can do three more follow-up "short articles"...each one delving a bit deeper into PB application...but it would make better sense to me, for the editors to just let you write it all in one shot...
…that way, the folks reading…would get the WHOLE picture and not just the entry-level overview.
Jeff could certainly do that, but you know who else could? You. In fact, I'm going to offer you the opportunity to do so. Officially. Right here, right now. It's a party here and you ARE invited. We strive to represent as many different voices/personalities in our pages as is possible...and you appear as if you have something to say. With 7000+ posts on our forums, I urge you to turn your writing talents into content: tell our readers what you know and what you think would be beneficial for them to know. You'll even make some pocket change in the process. It's a win/win for all involved. Go ahead and shoot me an email: mharper@musicplayer.com and we'll get the ball a'rollin'

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#1691793 - 04/25/06 09:56 AM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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I believe the context of which the article was written is something to take into consideration. "Organizing your studio with a patchbay" almost implies that the most suited reader for the piece is somebody that is just now acquiring enough gear and getting serious enough with their home rig to begin stringing everything together via a patchbay--in layman's terms it's probably geared towards the burgeoning studiohound, and thus should be more of a "broad" piece and a bit less specialized.
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But, as pointed out above, the article was intended for an audience besides those, like yourself, who have been utilizing patchbays for "many years". Really, as you've been "organizing your studio with a patchbay" for way longer than the kids, what information would you have hoped to gain from a piece written under that pretense?
I guess that is where our perspectives differ.

For me...reading an in-depth article on patch bay application would not have offered much in the way of new information...though it would have been a good read as a "refresher"...because sometimes we get into certain "habits", and we forget the other possibilities.

However, I was thinking more about the "newbies"...the guys just getting into a decent rig, and possibly looking for ways to improve their connectivity options.
It is for those folks that a deeper, more detailed article would have made the difference.
A true "Organizing Your Studio With Patch Bays" article...maybe even with some illustrations (though I know Eugene says illustrators cost money… ;\) ).
Then...those newbies would really have benefited from reading the article...and maybe even gone out and bought some patch bays to put into play.
As it is...for someone that has never dealt with a patch bay...that article was just a small taste...and most interested parties would have been left looking for *more info* before proceeding with the implementation of patch bays in their "newbie" rigs.

....IMO. \:\)
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#1691794 - 05/03/06 11:39 PM Re: How to contribute to "Love Letters"? (And a comment...)
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Guys, Miroslav is very correct on many issues. I find the 'hip' font to be less than such. If a magazine has to try to be cool, it's sliding backwards. Thicken both the depth of the articles and the mag itself, and you will make many of us happy.
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