#1688402 - 09/28/05 03:41 PM
"I wish we had a _________."
|
Jeff Klopmeyer
10k Club
Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 16924
Loc: Redondo Beach,CA,UNITED STATES
|
Offline
|
|
If you could add musicians to your band (and not worry about further divvying up the gig pay as a consideration), what would it be?
- A sax player?
- A second/third/whateverth guitarist?
- Three attractive female backing vocalists?
- A turntablist?
- A percussionist?
Let us know what you'd add to your band if given the chance, and tell us why.
- Jeff
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688403 - 09/28/05 08:08 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
jay da cop
Gold Member
Registered: 01/01/01
Posts: 543
Loc: Waldoboro, Maine
|
|
Offline
|
|
I think I would have to say a percussionist. That way we could do away with the laptop playing Reason for some of the percussion loops that have become so popular, and go with an "all live" show again. We prided ourselves for years on having 2 keyboard players just to avoid sequencing big production stuff, and then we lost a keys player and added a laptop. Seemed ironic. The parts have pared down for me to play, and we are staying away from the bigger production stuff, or are re-arranging it to suit, but we are using Reason more and more as the others in the band are realizing the amazing amount of really cool stuff it can do, forget that it's not "live". Maybe I just miss having Jim in the band. Maybe I am just a bitter "musician" and not just an entertainer. Maybe I have my head too far up my rectum to see a better (or more productive) way. I guess it's all about the crowd anyway, and not my personal preference. And, then again, maybe ...
My $0.02.
Jay
"Just the Band"
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688404 - 09/28/05 09:28 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Jeff Klopmeyer
10k Club
Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 16924
Loc: Redondo Beach,CA,UNITED STATES
|
|
Offline
|
|
I believe that I'd like to have a second guitarist/keyboardist as another member, freeing my singer up from having to play guitar on a few tunes, while vastly broadening our repertoire.
It would be cool, though, to be able to jam with a specialist every so often, be it a sax player or a pedal steel guy. I'd like to see how this would affect the dynamic of the band... I imagine it would be interesting and cool.
- Jeff
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688405 - 09/28/05 10:55 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
David R
Gold Member
Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 702
Loc: Montreal, QC
|
|
Offline
|
|
Interestingly enough, I think both bands I'm in have really found their sound with the instrumentation that we have.
My jazz trio was originally a quartet, and while I love the sax player we played with for our first year of existence, we've really come into our own as a trio.
The funk/hip-hop band I'm in has the main singer/MC who doubles on a little bit of keys, myself, a guitarist, bassist and drummer, and two backup singers. It might be cool to do a one-off collaboration with a really good turntablist, but I can't see one fitting in the band as a permanent fixture.
Last night I played a gig with a singer-songwriter friend of mine, and it was her on guitar and vocals, a colleague of hers on electric, lap steel and snare, and myself on keyboards. If we were all in the same city and had a dedicated percussionist and a bassist, it would be awesome. I'd never played with anyone who played lap steel before.
David
_________________________
MySpace | My Blog "Speak up & be true or shut up & go to bed." Kerouac
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688406 - 09/29/05 12:18 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Jeff Klopmeyer
10k Club
Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 16924
Loc: Redondo Beach,CA,UNITED STATES
|
|
Offline
|
|
Originally posted by David R:
I'd never played with anyone who played lap steel before.
- Jeff
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688407 - 09/29/05 11:22 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Geekgurl
Platinum Member
Registered: 08/17/03
Posts: 1234
Loc: near San Francisco
|
|
Offline
|
|
We're a Latin-jazz-ish instrumental group. We currently have this permanent lineup:
Guitar
Keyboards (me)
Bass
Drums
Percussionist
If I had my druthers I'd add:
* 2 string players who play Charanga style, and one of them can double on basic keys for pads and the other play misc. hand percussion.
But that ain't gonna happen. We can afford one other player probably, so:
* An extra keyboardist who EITHER is adept at Ableton Live to trigger the percussion loops I miss from the CD OR can play misc. hand percussion.
But really, what's most LIKELY to happen is this:
* sometimes we'll add a second keyboardist. Who plays keys. Just keys.
The "why and wherefores" of my choices are that our music on the CD we are supporting is layered ... lots of keys under mostly guitar melodies. We also have a ton of hand percussion. One of the high points of our recording, I think, is the presence of string arrangements on some tunes (I wrote them, someone else did a brilliant job of playing them). I would love to have that as an element of our live show ... and because strings aren't in every song, it would be ideal if whoever played them could also play "light duty" second instrument of either keys or percussion.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688408 - 09/30/05 06:47 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Picker
MP Hall of Fame Member
Registered: 06/13/04
Posts: 7238
Loc: A few miles from the corner of...
|
|
Offline
|
|
I wish we had a _________..." Steady house gig that paid really well.
_________________________
Handle every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#1688409 - 10/01/05 01:56 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Geekgurl
Platinum Member
Registered: 08/17/03
Posts: 1234
Loc: near San Francisco
|
|
Offline
|
|
Originally posted by picker:
I wish we had a _________..." Steady house gig that paid really well.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688410 - 10/03/05 04:58 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
GeoffB
MP Hall of Fame Member
Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 7361
Loc: UK East Midlands via Scotland
|
|
Offline
|
|
Originally posted by Jeff Klopmeyer:
If you could add musicians to your band (and not worry about further divvying up the gig pay as a consideration), what would it be?
- A sax player?
- A second/third/whateverth guitarist?
- Three attractive female backing vocalists?
- A turntablist?
- A percussionist?
Let us know what you'd add to your band if given the chance, and tell us why.
- Jeff
G.
_________________________
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the World will know Peace": Jimi Hendrix
Frank M:Back in the day you could have a trio with two people.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688411 - 10/03/05 05:46 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Botch.
MP Hall of Fame Member
Registered: 08/17/00
Posts: 8149
Loc: Ogden, Utard
|
|
Offline
|
|
A roadie. I would much rather have a roadie than another musician. A big burly one.
And WRT a turntablist being a musician, check out Herbie Hancock's DVD "The Futurist". It made me a believer.
_________________________
Botch "Eccentric language often is symptomatic of peculiar thinking" - George Will http://www.puddlestone.net
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688412 - 10/05/05 12:20 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Basshappi
MP Hall of Fame Member
Registered: 06/16/03
Posts: 2714
Loc: Tucson,AZ
|
|
Offline
|
|
Originally posted by Botch.:
A roadie. I would much rather have a roadie than another musician. A big burly one.
And WRT a turntablist being a musician, check out Herbie Hancock's DVD "The Futurist". It made me a believer.
Ditto regarding tabalists. I used to not regard them as musicians (and many still aren't)however, I have begun to change my opinion.There are many talented and creative people out there using technology and technological devices to create sounds/music, and isn't that the hallmark of the musician (think: guitar pickups,effects boxes,theremins,synths). I have come to think of the turntable and it's associated devices as synths with a different control surface.
It's a brave new world folks, let the music flow!
After all wasn't it The Who that proclaimed that "The music must change!" 
_________________________
Nothing is as it seems but everything is exactly what it is - B. Banzai
Life is what happens while you are busy playing in bands.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688413 - 10/05/05 12:09 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
ChrisOfDoom
Gold Member
Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 634
Loc: Seattle
|
|
Offline
|
|
A drummer. Not a Neil Peart wannabe who seems incapable of a coherent beat, a real, time keeping, tasteful drummer. Oh that would be nice.....
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688414 - 10/07/05 03:17 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Tedster
MP Hall of Fame Member
Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 5933
|
|
Offline
|
|
I wish I had a nine inc...er...
Oh...musically...
I don't know what I'd wish for. I wish I had time to put a band together. But then, sometimes that sucks. I don't know how bands stay together at all. I really don't.
50-Horse Johnson WBAGNFARB.
_________________________
"Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine...(WAH WAH WAH WAHHH!)"
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688416 - 10/13/05 05:09 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Dick Ward (MP Hall of Fame Wannabe)
Platinum Member
Registered: 10/01/05
Posts: 1235
Loc: Novi, Mi
|
|
Offline
|
|
Geekgirl gains instant respect for her use of 'druthers'.
I wish we had more time and money for promotions, and better working cars.
Driving an hour or more to promote can be a hassle when everyone's ride is on the fritz at once!
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688417 - 10/14/05 08:15 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
RicBassGuy
MP Hall of Fame Member
Registered: 02/02/05
Posts: 3816
Loc: Metro Detroit, MI
|
|
Offline
|
|
Originally posted by Dick Ward:
Driving an hour or more to promote can be a hassle when everyone's ride is on the fritz at once!
The new group that's cookin' up meets at my place! 
[edit: Oh, hey, you're in Novi! Are all of us west-siders stealth musicians or something? It seems every band I come across looking for new members is always way on the east side, hence the long commute to practice.]
Oh, I guess I should contribute to the topic, too. Hmm. Well in the current startup we're still getting things together, so we really need a lot of things. We could use a quintessential diva-type singer/frontperson, for sure. (Do I get points for quintessential, or is that overplayed?) 
Having been what my wife calls a "band nerd" (played in the school band; she's an "orchestra geek"), I really dig adding symphonic instruments of any kind. Sure, the synth can dial up "strings", but you know it's never the same as a live, true string quartet. And how do you cover Chicago tunes without trumpet, trombone, and sax?
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1688418 - 10/14/05 08:20 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
|
Dick Ward (MP Hall of Fame Wannabe)
Platinum Member
Registered: 10/01/05
Posts: 1235
Loc: Novi, Mi
|
|
Offline
|
|
Yeah we used to practice forever away too, but now we meet at our guitarist's house, since he has a drum set, we don't have to all drive to our drummer, lol.
Now I drive a little over 3 miles to practice. Woo!
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1797051 - 08/17/07 10:39 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
[Re: Jeff Klopmeyer]
|
Dr. Ellwood
10k Club
Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 16041
Loc: MoTown
|
|
Offline
|
|
Originally posted by Geoff Byrne:
Since when was a 'turntablist' regarded as a musician? I prefer not to debate such things here, but I have two responses for you: 1. This topic was about an addition to a band. In many bands, especially those that relate to the hip-hop and other dance-based genres, a turntablist can be much more essential than a tuba player, an oboeist, or a lead guitarist. 2. I've had the pleasure of working with turntablists that were some of the most expressive percussionists I've ever heard, and will never again doubt the validity of their musicianship and instrumental virtuosity. Just a thought. You're welcome to yours as well.  - Jeff
 Instrumental virtuosity LOL!!!!...........NOT
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1797420 - 08/18/07 07:24 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
[Re: Botch.]
|
SpaceNorman
Senior Member
Registered: 12/07/06
Posts: 382
Loc: Michigan
|
|
Offline
|
|
I saw Tower of Power last night. Gawd, I'd give my left nut to play with a real horn section.
_________________________
The SpaceNorman 
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1797422 - 08/18/07 07:32 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
[Re: SpaceNorman]
|
SpaceNorman
Senior Member
Registered: 12/07/06
Posts: 382
Loc: Michigan
|
|
Offline
|
|
...and if I couldn't have a real horn section (ala T.O.P.)...I'd settle for having a charismatic front person who had that special something that "owns" whatever room they're playing. My current act has solid vocals and can play its ass off. When non-stop dance material is what's needed we're as solid as they come - however we struggle when a strong front person that really "owns" the room is what is needed to carry the set.
_________________________
The SpaceNorman
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1803172 - 08/31/07 09:32 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
[Re: SpaceNorman]
|
blueross
Senior Member
Registered: 07/15/07
Posts: 357
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
|
|
Offline
|
|
Keyboards, especially someone willing to lug around a Hammond B3.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1805128 - 09/04/07 05:18 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
[Re: blueross]
|
Trill
Platinum Member
Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 1283
Loc: Southwestern Ohio
|
|
Offline
|
|
I wish we had.....Groupies 
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1807025 - 09/08/07 10:39 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
[Re: Griffinator]
|
Paul K
Platinum Member
Registered: 05/16/06
Posts: 1072
Loc: Ithaca, NY
|
|
Offline
|
|
Tenor player. Not alto. A blues band without a tenor player is...is...is just not right. Our current harp player is cool, but after four songs it's all the same. Happy to trade him straight up for a growly tenor.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1875071 - 01/18/08 05:01 AM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
[Re: Paul K]
|
EddiePlaysBass
MP Hall of Fame Member
Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 2704
Loc: Belgium
|
|
Offline
|
|
I used to want a second guitar player, one who could play lead. We have that now and we sound SOOO much better, so I'm okay. I still say we could use a touch of Hammond organ on the occasional song, but I do not want to add more members to the band.
That said, I do wish we had the equipment to add backing vocals to our songs, as it would help liven them up and elevate everything up a notch or two. The drummer's a fairly good singer and I guess that, with practice, I could carry a tune. I used to do backings in my other bands but then stopped practising that part completely.
That, and I wish we had a gig 
_________________________
http://www.myspace.com/thedapperdansAfter the various bands you've been in, and the headaches you've seen, you figure having TWO bands at once will be better? - Tom Capasso
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#1876423 - 01/20/08 01:22 PM
Re: "I wish we had a _________."
[Re: RicBassGuy]
|
RicBassGuy
MP Hall of Fame Member
Registered: 02/02/05
Posts: 3816
Loc: Metro Detroit, MI
|
|
Offline
|
|
Well in the current startup we're still getting things together, so we really need a lot of things. We could use a quintessential diva-type singer/frontperson, for sure.
However, the band I'm currently in is doing rather well. It'd be nice to have horns on songs like "Mustang Sally", of course, but then we'd have the same problem Geekgirl spoke of earlier: what to do with them on other songs?
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
Moderator: Jeff Klopmeyer
|
|
|
