#1684359 - 07/19/06 12:05 AM
good reverb
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rod tienzo
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hi, I am interested in how and what to use in a good reverb inorder to produce professional sounding vocals.. i need help..
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#1684360 - 07/19/06 11:50 AM
Re: good reverb
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J.J. Blair
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Rod, reverb isn't as important for professional sounding vocals as much as a properly recorded and well sung vocal. There are lots of great records with no reverb on vocal.
But as far as recommendinf reverbs, we need more information about what you're using. Are you mixin ITB with plug-ins or on a console with rack reverbs?
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#1684361 - 07/19/06 12:17 PM
Re: good reverb
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rod tienzo
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thanks for the fast response... i want to add a sound processor in my mixer..ive seen others select the vocal plate as the effect they are using.. I want to know if there are better effects that can enhance the voice...
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#1684362 - 07/19/06 03:12 PM
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J.J. Blair
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Rod, try not to think of reverb as an "enhancement." It's really just a way to create a space. If your vocal isn't sounding good without reverb, then reverb isn't going to save it. In my opinion, the qualities that make a "professional" or good sounding vocals recordings are:
a) a good singer
b) the right mic for that singer, in the context of the music
c) a mic pre that sounds good
d) the right compresssion for the vocal
Reverb is just adding dimension to the context of the mix. If you want to enhance the voice, use a good compressor. If you are mixing in ProTools, I highly suggest the UA 1176. If you are mixing analog, I suggest a real 1176. There are other good choices, but those are the most idiot proof.
Now, if you want to add some reverb, a plate or a plate plug-in might be the nicest sounding option. Add a touch or pre-delay before the reverb, meaning you hear the dry vocal, and then the reverb doesn't start for a few milliseconds. Some reverbs have a pre-delay option. If not, you run a delay before the reverb, and using 100% wet delay with 0% feedback, you feed that to the reverb.
And remember, reverb is additive. You're not processing the vocal with it, like you would EQ or compression. It's something you bring up on another track behind the vocal.
But as I said, reverb is simply a mixing option that will just create a spatial image in the music. It can't take a bad vocal and make it sound good. It can only maybe hide how bad it sounds.
I have taken bad sounding vocals and salvaged them with EQ and compression, but that's another art form entirely.
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#1684363 - 07/19/06 11:44 PM
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wwittman
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meaning "proof" of an idiot?
I thought that was an SM57
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#1684364 - 07/21/06 07:02 PM
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BrianK
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Note - I think it's MORE useful to use slight echo on a vocal. It's so slight that you might not even "hear" it as an effect. Typically, this echo is one repeat and has the treble rolled off, either when going out to the Echo Box, or when coming back into the mixer. This makes a vocal sound thicker, warmer, more in tune (oddly) and not quite so distant as some reverb.
Reverb is a BIG question, but a good one!
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