#1684235 - 04/12/06 08:47 PM
M600 microphone mount...a new approach?
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miroslav
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Spotted an ad for this in Mix:
http://www.enhancedaudio.ie/enhancedaudioproducts.htm
They want $266.81 for one of these.
The thing that concerns me is that they say it reduces infrasonic vibrations.
OK...but what about typical vibrations...like floor noise coming in through the hard-mount, instead of using your typical suspended shock mount...?
They make no comment about that noise...so I'm wondering how this mount deals with it since it is a hard mount.
Anyway...it's a tad pricey for me to get just for a try...though maybe for the big $$$ studios it's a drop in the bucket. 
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#1684236 - 04/13/06 09:39 AM
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getz76
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That's a lot of coin.
I doubt I would ever consider that (I am a hobby guy), but what application would you use that for? I would be worried about mechanical noise, like you mentioned. What advantage does it really have over a suspended shock mount that can be had for under $50?
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#1684237 - 04/13/06 10:57 AM
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miroslav
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Well...the say it provides better signal clarity by eliminating infrasonic noise.
I just want to know how it deals with you run-of-the-mill noise coming up through the hardware, being that it's a hard-mount and not a shock mount.
I almost feel like it should be used in conjunction with a regular shock mount to remove all types of noise...but at that point, you would have a real complicated mic mount.
Of course...it can also be nothing more than "audio voodoo"...becuase they say the type of noise it removes is not usually audible by ear...so you only get a "sense" of better clarity and frequency response.
OK...but it starts to sound a lot like "the Emperor's New Cloths"...with those kinds of "testamonials"... 
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#1684238 - 04/13/06 11:12 AM
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getz76
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Originally posted by miroslav:
I almost feel like it should be used in conjunction with a regular shock mount to remove all types of noise...but at that point, you would have a real complicated mic mount.
Originally posted by miroslav:
Of course...it can also be nothing more than "audio voodoo"...becuase they say the type of noise it removes is not usually audible by ear...so you only get a "sense" of better clarity and frequency response.
While buying that stand, you might want to consider some audiophile electrical sockets:
The WATTGATE AUDIO GRADE DUPLEX SOCKET sells for about $150:
you are building your own audiophile power cords to improve performance in your audio or home theatre system then you’ll definitely want to use the 381. Why build a performance power cable and then plug it into a ordinary receptacle? The WattGate™ 381 is the perfect way to fine tune the power source for your high-end audio or home theatre system. The construction of the 381 is very durable and features glass-filled, nylon-tough front and rear housings for UV and chemical resistance. The mounting strap, rivets and grounding strip are gold plated, solid brass.
I also love the $500 IEC power cables. Cracks me up.
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#1684240 - 04/13/06 01:56 PM
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getz76
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Sorry to go so far off-topic, but it might not be so off-topic... seems like a lot of the same psuedo-science approach the audiophile world goes through.
Clean, healthy power is important. I have seen my share of crap (I worked briefly as an electrian's assistant one summer while in college). The outlet is the last thing I would worry about, though. I would worry about the line from the main box and even the service line to the house before an outlet.
Amazing what they can do to some of the audiophile guys, though, isn't it?
I am extremely lucky. I live in a 500-unit apartment building and I have relatively clean, consistent power.
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#1684241 - 06/19/06 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by miroslav:
run-of-the-mill noise coming up through the hardware, being that it's a hard-mount and not a shock mount.
The fact the rings are made of a low resonance aluminum doesn't mean they won't transmit noise so
I just wonder how well the idea would work if it were entirely made of Delrin.
Just a bit pricey....
Your idea of a combo with suspension rings may have merit too but, as you alluded to, would be a complicated mount and would also, for the most part, require different mounts for different mics.
[EDIT] Delrin doesn't take well to acidic or base solutions so folks with acidic fingers that have to change guitar strings quite often probably would not be happy with the mounts...Particularly at that price.[/EDIT]
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#1684242 - 06/20/06 11:36 AM
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J.J. Blair
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The main concern for me is that with these mounts, you are still coupled to the stand, which is coupled to the floor, etc. I personally think it's more important to decouple from everything, like a shockmount does, than reduce "infrasonic" noise.
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#1684243 - 06/20/06 06:51 PM
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Dak Lander
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Originally posted by J.J. Blair:
The main concern for me is that with these mounts, you are still coupled to the stand, which is coupled to the floor, etc. I personally think it's more important to decouple from everything, like a shockmount does, than reduce "infrasonic" noise.
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#1684245 - 06/24/06 05:07 PM
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J.J. Blair
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Originally posted by Dak Lander:
[QB] Essentially, with a standard suspension mount, you are still coupled to the mic stand and thus to the base and floor though through the elastic media.
More importantly, you can't fit a great number of tube mics into this mount, so it's all moot anyway.
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