#1684119 - 02/22/06 01:55 PM
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bigbone
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This question regard J.J.
I did buy the CAd mic 411 for the toms, and i know that you like it,and cose i trust you, and love the sound of your drums, i need
some cue about this mic, i usaly use a SENN 604, for the toms, but so far i still love the 604 better than the 411, but
i must do something wrong with it, i try different placement, ( my tom are DW 12X9 with REMO coated) , the tom sound good, it's just that i can't get the tone,
and i do trust you,if you can use it, i hope i will be abble to use it...
Can you give me a few pointer please......
By the way my style is more pop a la JR, abe jr, fresse, you got the point,,heheheheh
thank's in advance
Bigbone
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#1684120 - 02/23/06 11:01 AM
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Bigbone, I'm sorry to hear that. Any chance you can post a couple of samples showing the difference? It's hard to comment without hearing what is going on.
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#1684121 - 02/23/06 11:51 AM
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Hello J.J.
yes i will post a couple of sample, and you can tell me
what i do wrong
thank you for your answer, i do appreciate it...... 
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#1684122 - 02/26/06 01:18 PM
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Without hearing it, I would have to say it was the drum that wasn't giving you what you wanted. The 604 is a great mic, you should have been able to get a great sound with it. I have not had a good experience with the Cad mic. I much prefer the 604 or a 421.
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#1684123 - 02/26/06 07:25 PM
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Jay, it's interesting you say that about the 411. I recall it being similar in the bottom and low mids to a 421, as far as using it on a tom goes, but it had a slightly more open top end. It's that woolliness on the top end that I always find so objectionable about the 421. It gives you the note all right, but none of the air. I thought the 411 did a nice job of both.
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#1684124 - 02/26/06 09:19 PM
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The 411 just accentuates the mids that I tend to want to get rid of. They might be good on the smaller toms that seem popular now, but on the kits that I end up recording all the time (12x12 being the 'small' tom) it just doesn't work. BTW I tend to tune drums down, which also effects my experience with the mics.
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#1684125 - 02/27/06 01:12 PM
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I did said that i LOVE the 604. and that my toms sound great wiith it..i just can get the tone with the CAD 411, and if J.J. ( who i think that his drum sound good ) use it, i just need a few pointer,
like i said , the toms (12x 9 DW) sound great..........
anyway no big deal, if i can't use it, i won't.....
I will try to post some sample this week. i just need to make sure that it 's ok with the artist and the record company,,,those can be pretty picky hehehehehehehe
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#1684126 - 02/27/06 01:15 PM
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And by the way thank's for your help guys, i do appreciate it...
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#1684128 - 03/27/06 03:43 PM
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#1684129 - 03/27/06 04:07 PM
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Well, considering the 57 is the same as the 58, I would probably use the 57, so that you don't dent the grill. However, considering I actually like some low end in my toms, I only use a 57 as one of my three snare mics, or to secure any loose nails around the studio.
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