#1682421 - 06/26/05 08:39 AM
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I am going to get a popper stopper for my large condenser mic. There are so many brands out there. I don't know where to begin. What do you recommend nylon,metal,mesh. How many layers? What size "6" inches or 8". What brands do you recommend?
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#1682422 - 06/26/05 09:14 AM
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miroslav
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Some people like the metal Steadman...though a few have commented the filter can "mangle" a vocal if not used properly (vocalist too close)...which has always been my concern about using metal mesh.
Also...AFIK...the mesh is made to force the air in a downward direction as it passes through...so you really need to watch how you place it relative to the mic.
The more "generic" ones (probably all made by the same manufacturer) are the cloth/silk kind of mesh...and they come either with a single or double mesh.
I have several of these 6" & 8" and single & double mesh.
These kinds work well for me, and never any "mangling" of the vocal.
You can get a different acoustic compression by using either a single or double mesh...and you need to try both, depending on the mic and vocals at that moment.
There is another kind...the "Popless Variable Acoustic Compression" filter: http://www.popfilter.com/
It allows you to mount one or two screens, and vary the distance between them.
I’ve been meaning to get one of these for a long time...but I have more filters right now then I can use...so until they start to fall apart, I won't be buying any more.
This variable acoustic compression can also be achieved like I am doing...by choosing either a single or double mesh...and I guess you can even put two filter on a stand if you want to.
The Popless VAC system just simplifies all of that by letting you do it with one mount.
the 6" filter are good for most everything. They are wide enough to cover most of any mic, which will help protect it.
The 8" are good if you are going to use more than one mic...or if you have 2-3 persons signing into one mic.
I will mention that of the more "generic" style of filter...I have noticed that some brands use a better quality mesh...so just check out a couple before you buy...but, these kinds are the least expensive and still as good as any of the "boutique" filters out there...IMO.
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#1682423 - 06/26/05 09:26 AM
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miroslav
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Oh...I don't remember which brand(s) of the "generic" style filters I have...and none of them have brand names on the filters...it was only on the packaging...which is long gone!
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#1682424 - 06/26/05 09:31 AM
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aliengroover
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I think the Stedman is wonderful. Never had a problem with any mangled vocals or such.
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#1682425 - 06/26/05 10:36 AM
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where02190
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We use generic mesh ones, the key, as Miro pointed out is how ou place it. It should angle down toward the singer so it reflects the plosives away from both mic and artist.
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#1682426 - 06/26/05 12:15 PM
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Philip O'Keefe
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I've got both a Stedman and nylon pop filters. In general, I'd say that each has their advantages, as well as disadvantages.
The Stedman actually seems to be more effective at dealing with plosives than the nylon filters. However, if placed too close to the mic, it won't be effective. Due to the grating and the way they deflect air blasts, it has to be placed at least 3" away from the mic. If the Stedman is too close to the singer, you can also sometimes get a subtle "metallic" ring or overtone - especially with very loud singers.
Nylon filters - especially double layer types - tend to suffer from HF loss and a subtle "dulling" of the sound. Single layer screens tend to be a little less obnoxious in that regard, but OTOH, they're not as effective on heavy plosives in my experience.
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#1682427 - 06/26/05 12:45 PM
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paully
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I have a couple of the Shure 'Popper Stopper' pop filters that do exactly what they should, and are not too expensive.
http://www.shure.com/accessories/ps6.asp
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PS6/
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#1682428 - 06/27/05 03:29 PM
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Lee Knight
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Steadman! I've never experienced any problems. Transparent so far for me.
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