#1682381 - 06/23/05 12:44 PM
ASIO versus MME and SP2 question.
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Robman2
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I've had a real fun time so far, new computor, Samplitide and HDSP 9632, on a PC.
So far, MIDI will not work via the card except upon initial reinstall, after that it's crapping ou error message after a few minutes so it's been the trusty USB to MIDI from Hosa...and that's now glitchy.
While recording, I'd like to use ASIO for monitor during realtime recording but that seems more functional if I assign all of that to the MME.
Does anyone here have Samplitude and have you had difficulties in getteing the (exasperative phrase here) running like a Swiss or is that German, watch?
I'm condidering an entire re-install of the OS (XP Pro) except that was done at a shop and I'm not online for the update.
Would re-installing from the Windows CD wipe that out or overwrite that aspect, or is SP,2 going to not allow an overwrite for those subset details etc?
God bless my pals at Synthax, sounds great and all but I'm just about ready to go and pay for SX3 just because it's MIDI friendly.
Thanks any modicum of parental guidance is appreciated.
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#1682382 - 06/23/05 12:58 PM
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Dylan
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Can you set this up without SP2?
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#1682383 - 06/23/05 01:09 PM
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samp works great for audio/mixing/mastering, cant get better.. but it's midi is not up there yet.... the RME card is great...
SX is easier to use. but i am more of a samplitude fan if i had to pick one of the 2..
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#1682384 - 06/23/05 01:15 PM
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Robman2
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I'm not sure, I could ask the Syntax guys if's that's cool.
Good idea.
I'd buy the SX3(Oh yeah were just made of money) simply because I could run that Nuendo engine (under the SX badge) but track MIDI and use the scoreing funtionality, the VST plugs etc, and hard track to the Samp for all actual audio.
Ideas welcome, thanks for the input.
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#1682385 - 06/23/05 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by Robman2:
So far, MIDI will not work via the card ....
While recording, I'd like to use ASIO for monitor during realtime recording but that seems more functional ...
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Tom at Synthax is really big on ASIO. Being also a SAWStudio user, I've been using MME forever and RME handles it quite well. But I -know- that the RME/Samplitude ASIO support has to be good, or Tom would not be using it. I suggest talking to George over ont he synthax USA website, and get some help from them to suss out what exactly is causing your problem. Why does MME seem 'more functional...' ? What s happening to lead you to believe that? I'm far from a toruble-shooter with this stuff.... that is one of the reasons that I am so high on RME and Magix... I just plug it in and it works the way that it is supposed to work. That has happened for me with four RME cards, four or five different computers, SAWStudio, and, more recently, Sequoia. In the old days I knew all about what was going on under the hood, but with RME/Magix, I no longer need to know this stuff.
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#1682386 - 06/23/05 05:47 PM
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Robman2
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BIll,
George and I have done some e-mailing, for some reason it's jacked up.
I'm considering a complete wipe and re-install.
keeping the few takes worth keeping to a CD burn etc.
I know Tom from a way back.
There was a driver update, between the onset (June 1st and this week) both for driver version on the 9632, per George and the flash bios on the card.
In between then, I had limited almost every function non music related, on the machine, except that after following that set of instructions, the machine now, will not allow me into the set up screen, it will only give me a boot up choice, with F 10, then begins running.
I installed the latest drivers two evenings ago.
Over last weekend, I decided to load up, Wave Lab 4, Reason, B 4, Recycle, Re-wire, Traktor etc.
I've had these for several years and when I thought they might be causing the glitches, I took them out.
My associate here at the office, told me that old PC software, can be tricked into seeing NT when it's XP and perhaps, there is some diabolical misanthrope line of codex lingering because of that software barrage I tried. It's all old NFR (not for resale) stuff I got when I was in retail.
I've re-loaded the card and the Samplitude several times, becauuse the Yellow triangle will somehow arrive in the systems directory or even with all indications as OK, that the MIDI is screwy.
I suppose I could have a bad card, but I usually feel it's pilot error.
Shit I even continuity tested the MIDI cables.
I could wipe the card and the Samp one more time and see if that fixes it, since the last time it was prior to George's suggestion on driver updates.
IT's damn frustrating and George doesn't feel disabeling the Hyper Threading will make a difference, although a few folks indicate that with SX and other programs, the glitch factor was less after they did just that.
Thanks for the support.
I'll get it figured out somehow.
Rob
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#1682387 - 06/24/05 03:10 PM
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Bill@Welcome Home Studios
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Well, I've never been a fan of the total wipe and restore plan, because I find that most often, whatever mistakes were being made to get the problem to happen, are usually repeated in the wipe and restore process.
But if you choose to do this, take the time to reformat the drive, too. Because Windows XP saves a little bit of itself to the drive, in a hidden file. I reformat c: from a floppy, when I feel the need to make such a radical move. That way, all files are removed (as far as I know....). 
Of course, my main recommendation is that, if you do this, load Samp and the RME stuff, but do not load anything else, test the machine and see what happens. Be sure to physically turn it off and back on at least once, too. THEN add other audio apps, one piece at a time, and run the machine with each piece as a test before you add the next one. This is no assurance of success, but it has to be better than loading in everything at once and hoping for the best.
I've not got any hyperthreading machines, but I haven't seen where it is buying much for audio yet. The early tests that I read had hyperthreading actually slowing down some apps, and I figure that this is a headache that I just don't need. So I put aside any consideration of it for the day when someone proclaimed it as a killer thing to have for audio. Until that day, I'll pass, and let others be the pioneers. You can always tell a pioneer by the arrows in his back.
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#1682389 - 06/28/05 01:26 PM
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No support for WDM drivers in Samplitude?
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#1682390 - 06/29/05 03:05 PM
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Robman2
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I'll look at that setting.
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