#1681655 - 06/08/05 01:13 PM
Sonar Pantheon vs. TC M-One
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M Peasley
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Ok, Cakewalk is offering me a $99 upgrade from Sonar 4 Studio to Sonar 4 Producer. The only thing that's attracting me to the offer is the full-version Lexion Pantheon reverb that comes with Producer.
'Till now, my plan has been to grab a TC M-One off eBay for my reverbs, but I'm wondering how the Pantheon stacks up against the M-One. The Sonar upgrade would save me some $$ if it makes the M-One purchase unnecessary.
Any users out there with experience with both?
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M Peasley
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#1681656 - 06/08/05 02:10 PM
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Philip O'Keefe
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I have not compared them side by side, but there is ONE major advantage to software verbs - multiple instances are possible. With hardware, you're much more limited insofar as the maximum amount of simultaneous verbs. 
That's assuming you like the sound of the software verb of course. And that you have a fast enough host computer to support multiple instances of the verb plug in. 
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#1681657 - 06/14/05 03:03 PM
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I like the Pantheon 'verb okay -- but I think I appreciate the Editrol Sonitus plug-ins more, overall -- and, in fact, find myself using the Sonitus 'verb plug more often than the Pantheon. But the other plugs in that package are really valuable, as well, seems to me. Also, other users have commented favorably on the POWR dithering and SFPro's MPEX tmes stretching...
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#1681658 - 06/14/05 10:18 PM
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It seems like in one of the early Sonar 4 ads, there was a Producer guy talking about some sort of pitch shift, which I took to mean a sort of one note at a time 'auto-tune' that was the best thing going as far as sounding natural. Was I dreaming?
Also the dither and plugs sound interesting.
I'm also in the $99.00 to go from Studio to Producer Sonar 4 boat.
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#1681659 - 06/15/05 06:09 AM
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Phil's point of multiple incidence with softwre verbs is quite valid. However if you go the hardware route, go for the M1XL, which is a far better unit for not that much more $$$.
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#1681660 - 06/15/05 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by DC:
It seems like in one of the early Sonar 4 ads, there was a Producer guy talking about some sort of pitch shift, which I took to mean a sort of one note at a time 'auto-tune' that was the best thing going as far as sounding natural. Was I dreaming?
Also the dither and plugs sound interesting.
I'm also in the $99.00 to go from Studio to Producer Sonar 4 boat.
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#1681661 - 06/16/05 02:59 PM
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M Peasley
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thanx for the tips, everyone. Sound quality is my primary goal in this purchase. I was suspecting that the TC unit would sound better than the Pantheon.
Multiple instances would be convenient, but I suppose I can achieve the same end result with some bounces and overdubs. Time is the luxury the home studio can afford.
But still, with all the other cool toys that come with the upgrade, I might still spring the $99. I like time-stretching not for fixing timing problems, but just for fx and weird sound sculpting.
M Peasley
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#1681662 - 06/16/05 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by M Peasley:
I like time-stretching not for fixing timing problems, but just for fx and weird sound sculpting.
M Peasley
I'm unfortunately not familiar with either of those products, so I'm not sure which sounds better.
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#1681663 - 06/16/05 07:39 PM
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I thing I noticed during a fast mix af a recording I made (acoustic guitar and female vocals) was that when I mixed it with a TC M300 (I was trying it out) it sounded better than with the D-Verb or what's it called in ProTools. Or it could be that when I was mixing I was using an analogue Soundcraft Ghost desk.
I ended up using two different D-Verbs in ProTools, just to make it easy for me, not having to route everything back into the computer, because it wasn't a commercial project or anything, just for fun. If it would've been commercial, I would've routed it trhough the console and used a M3000 reverb and maybe the compressor from a LA C1 compressor..
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#1681664 - 06/16/05 09:23 PM
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DC
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Originally posted by theblue1: Originally posted by DC:
It seems like in one of the early Sonar 4 ads, there was a Producer guy talking about some sort of pitch shift, which I took to mean a sort of one note at a time 'auto-tune' that was the best thing going as far as sounding natural. Was I dreaming?
Also the dither and plugs sound interesting.
I'm also in the $99.00 to go from Studio to Producer Sonar 4 boat.
What I need is to fix maybe a note or two on a good bass take. Or maybe a vocal is off pitch for a sustained note, or maybe just a syllable. Anything I've tried to pitch shift inside of a passage (sustained bit without silence before and after) has glitched. I'd like to be able to fix a syllable within a word on occation. Will the Prosoniq do that?
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