#1681280 - 05/28/05 06:15 PM
That funky guitar sound.
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Funkwave
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I have a similar thread on the guitar board, just wanted to pick your brains.
I'm trying to capture that thick, sweet, guitar sound that they used for funk style guitar, (triads, palm mutes), back in the day.
I'm recording Funk/Soul stuff ala James Brown, Funk Bro's and I'm curious to know what amplification they used in that era, if any, for recording. Perhaps I can model the amp on the POD XT, considering that I don't have a vintage amp collection. If direct is better, maybe the Avalon u5?
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#1681281 - 05/28/05 08:34 PM
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Philip O'Keefe
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Direct was fairly commonly used for funk guitar type tones. Compression can help too. 
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#1681283 - 05/28/05 09:42 PM
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I believe he means direct into the board.
A Telecaster would help too. Don't forget a nice dose of wah once in a while.
That's as far as tone, but the sound is mostly technique, I'd say.
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#1681284 - 05/28/05 09:45 PM
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Philip O'Keefe
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Yup, DI to the board, or via a preamp.
I agree with the single coils too... strat or tele would be my first choice insofar as guitar. 
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#1681285 - 05/28/05 10:43 PM
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Bill@Welcome Home Studios
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Originally posted by Sylver:
A Telecaster would help too. Don't forget a nice dose of wah once in a while.
That's as far as tone, but the sound is mostly technique, I'd say.
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#1681286 - 05/28/05 11:22 PM
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Roll the tone knob back a bit, on that Tele.
Can't be too crisp.
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#1681287 - 05/29/05 04:55 AM
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Philip O'Keefe
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Didn't Jimmy Nolen (who played with JB on many of his hits - from the mid 1960's onwards IIRC) play a strat primarily?
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#1681288 - 05/29/05 09:00 AM
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Bill@Welcome Home Studios
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Originally posted by Philip O'Keefe:
Didn't Jimmy Nolen (who played with JB on many of his hits - from the mid 1960's onwards IIRC) play a strat primarily?
Another factor in the 70s soul music was any effect by MuTron, the Orange Squeezer, and Morley.
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#1681289 - 05/29/05 05:16 PM
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Direct into the board w/ a strat in the in between "out of phase" pick up position 
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#1681290 - 05/29/05 05:19 PM
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Yeah... I think, really, there are a lot of different funk guitar sounds. I can think of ten or fifteen major categories off the top of my head.
I spent a couple hours one relatively lazy Sunday afternoon trying to figure out how Curtis Mayfield got his signature wah rhythm sound [chicka-wacka]. We'll skip the ordeal of using a poorly suited wah pedal [I swear the next one I buy will be completely dialable in, freq and Q, wise.]
I got some of the basic rhythms and wahs -- but there was a whole texture/complexity thing I couldn't get.
In those days, I used a flatpick for my electric guitar playing. But listening to Mayfield, I realized he was probably playing a sort of fingertip rasquiato (sp? this is one that seems to defy looking up) the Spanish guitar rapid strumming technique associated with streetcorner flamenco.
Anyhow, it's kind of fun peeling these things apart -- when you've got time to. It's a whole other thing when you're under schedule and under the gun...
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#1681292 - 05/30/05 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by bjorked: Direct into the board w/ a strat in the in between "out of phase" pick up position
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#1681293 - 06/01/05 01:27 PM
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Lee Knight
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I was listening to Bad Girls the other day. It's got to be a Strat/DI/Compressor/Tape. Same with the Chic stuff. Now that's Disco, so we're talking 10 years later than the Funk stuff. Real funk is through a Fender amp I bet... clean and warm and chunky.
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#1681294 - 06/01/05 07:03 PM
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d gauss
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well the motown stuff is fairly well documented. with pictures even. both guitars and bass direct into this little console thing in the room. paging bob o. for details ........
james brown is all over the place though. strats, kays, les pauls...then later he cut a deal with vox and EVERYTHING live was vox: guitars, bass, drums, amps.
just make it CLEAN.
-d. gauss
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#1681295 - 06/02/05 10:05 AM
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Lee Knight
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Yeah, that's a good point d. gauss. I remember seeing bands on the old concert tv shows of the 70's and being suprised at the variety of guitars that were being used for funk guitar. Like you said, Les Pauls, a lot of 335's, Strats of course. Then the amps, Acoustic (?!?!?!) Kustom, Baldwin.
"just make it CLEAN" Yeah, that's it, isn't it?
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