#1645221 - 03/27/05 01:00 AM
Recording revisited
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Panick
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How can I get a decent recording of my band? We have a Behringer 24 track board for my bass (DI thru my Behringer head), the guitar ( mic'd and thru a Behringer DI), and the drum mics; a 300 watt Peavey PA for the vocals, and a Tascam 414MKII 4 Track Cassette Portastudio. I would like to burn CDs from my computers DVD burner if possible. What would be the best way to set it up without having to sell an organ to pay for more gear?
I wanna make live recordings. All of us in one room jammin our fool asses off or even on stage at the bar. I don't wanna lay down seperate tracks and play thru headphones and shit.
I wanna record what comes thru the PA and to the crowd.
This is how we have everything set up now. Keep in mind, no one in my band is a sound enginer, has a PHD, or reads German, so we just kept hooking up stuff and unhookin and rehooking it to get what we have now. It works pretty well live.
We use a Behringer Eurodesk SL2442FX-PRO Mixer (I'll have to double check the exact model #, but its a 24 chan. 150 watt board.), a Peavey XR 600G, a QSC RMX 1850HD Power Amp, a pair of Peavey PR 15 2-way 15" speakers and a pair of early 80's vintage SP-1s, and 4 Nady monitors (2-12" and 2- 15")
Bass thru a digitech bp200 pedal into a Behringer BX3000T Head (with a 410 hartke and a GK backline 115). From the BX300t's DI into channel 1 of the Behringer board.
Guitar thru a Fender 212 combo, mic'd into channel 2 of the Behringer and DI into channel 3.
7 piece Pearl kit mic'd on channels 4 thru 10.
All vocals, 3 mics total are run thru the Peavey and then into channel 11 and 12 on the Behringer.
Its all then mixed and messed with till it sounds good ( by us non-enginer types) and run out to the power amp and speakers.
Is there a way to take a Tascam 4 Track Cassette Portastudio, that will record 2 tracks at once, and record the sound from the Behringer board, say as left and right moniter channels as the 2 tracks?
Is there a decently affordable way to redord to the hard drive of my computer, then burn a CD from there? Maybe even something to play with the sound from the hard drive?
Can anyone help me out here? Any alternate ways of hooking this all up? I'll try anything.
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#1645222 - 03/27/05 08:25 AM
Re: Recording revisited
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Dennyf
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I've made some recordings directly off the board during performances using just a Fostex X-15, which only records two tracks at a time. Since I don't run the PA in stereo, I only use one track at a time  .
Here's a sample. Sorry, it's in RealAudio format.
The key to doing this is having a balanced stage volume level, and putting everything thru the PA. I just use a kick and one overhead on the drums, mike the guitar amp, use a DI for the bass, and naturally the vocal mics. If you have to compensate for someone's excessive stage vol. by pulling them down in the FOH mix, this won't work.
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#1645223 - 03/27/05 10:18 AM
Re: Recording revisited
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Dave Martin
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You know, easiest way to get a good recording of your band is to practice until you all know your parts very well and then go into a studio to the recording. You CAN record live in the studio...
But leaving that aside, there are a couple of ways to do live recordings in bars (or your rehearsal room). The first (and quickest AND easiest) is to simply record board tapes - that is, take thestereo outputs from the console right to a cassette or CD burner. The second (and the method that will give you the most control over the final product) is to to multi-track recordings of your live gigs.
If the Behringer board has direct outputs for each channels (either through a separate jack for each channel or but plugging the output into the insert jack to the first click), you may be able to buy something like an RME or Lunx interface (or a number of others...) and record all 16 tracks to your computer's hard drive at once.
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#1645224 - 03/28/05 12:38 PM
Re: Recording revisited
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onelove
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I would add that possibly picking up a set of stereo mics and recording the room might be what you're after if you can't multi-track the whole thing, or if you want a better idea of what the audience is hearing.
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#1645225 - 03/29/05 01:49 AM
Re: Recording revisited
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GZsound
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We record our gigs with a simple setup. Two small condensers out in front connected to a small four input mixer and into a cassette. It gives us the same sound the audience hears.
For better quality recordings, you can go to a Hi Fi VHS VCR.
You can also take the output of the small mixer and go direct into the line input of your computer and record direct to hard drive..providing you have some sort of recording software.
One problem with recording off the board is that you may get really loud vocals, buried drums, buried guitars, etc. depending on how loud your band plays.
You can also just take a stereo line out of the Behringer board and go into the line input of your computer and record direct to hard drive.
Try everything..
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