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#1625663 - 05/09/00 12:19 PM Demo/Project Studio Blues
johnnypro@aol.com
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Hello Dr. Al,
I'm the owner of a 16 track demo/project studio and I do mostly songwriter demos, (along with a few indie CD projects). Some of the stuff that I work on is very good and it's real rewarding to work with a songwriter and turn their "ideas" into a finished demo. But with the wheat comes the chaff. I have several songwriters that I work for who write mediocre songs,(at best) and are very defensive about doing the demos exactly the way they have written them. They won't take suggestions and usually have written the melodies so that no human can do them as written. Obviously this kind of work is not fun or rewarding to any extent and in the past, too much of this type of work has made me close down the studio for a length of time until I got back into it. Any thoughts on balencing out the work, or at least getting a better attitude towards it? Of course I'm too broke to turn the "Mediocre" work down, and those songwriters seem to pay better anyway. Whattya think? Thanx!!!!!! JP

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#1625664 - 05/09/00 05:13 PM Re: Demo/Project Studio Blues
Doctor Al
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johnnypro -
sometimes its hard to live up to the "pro" in your handle. I bet.

"Any thoughts on balencing out the work, or at least getting a better attitude towards it? Of course I'm too broke to turn the "Mediocre" work down, and those songwriters seem to pay better anyway. Whattya think?..."

johnnypro -
I can see that sometimes its hard to live up to the "pro" in your screenname. Well the obvious answer to your problem is Prozac or Zoloft, the Transcendental Medication of the Millennium.
But if your temprament can't handle situations like you describe, change to something else. Lifes too short to suffer bad art.... Get an intern to run the studio sessions that bug ya and go watch EChannel on cable. Thats what this Doctor would do....

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#1625665 - 05/09/00 10:00 PM Re: Demo/Project Studio Blues
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Hi what I do for thoes sessions is demand to produce it or nothing at all. Then you call the shots and things progress nicely if parts are to hard to play for the people in on the project then you just say it. I also have an intern that does these sort sessions, there are a bunch of kids just out of sound school that would love to do these sessions and let you kick back with a beer and espn.all the best
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#1625666 - 05/10/00 02:31 AM Re: Demo/Project Studio Blues
Harvey Gerst
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Al, there's an Internet out-take floating around of a band that you did the producing on, I believe. The bulk of the discussion is focused on one line that has one too many syllables in it, and the singer/writer won't change it. It gets into a pretty heated debate. Can you remember who the band might have been?

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#1625667 - 05/10/00 10:12 AM Re: Demo/Project Studio Blues
Pro Jules
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Was the song 'Antidisestablishementaryism blues" ?
Jules

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#1625668 - 05/10/00 10:12 AM Re: Demo/Project Studio Blues
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[This message has been edited by Julian standen (edited 05-10-2000).]
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#1625669 - 05/10/00 12:20 PM Re: Demo/Project Studio Blues
Doctor Al
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yes i remember the band. Their album took seven months to record, which is three times the norm for me as a producer. I refer you to p.246-247 of me autobiography "BACKSTAGE PASSES & BACKSTABBING BASTARDS" (Billboard Books, 1998) for a hilarious detailed account of said band. I prefer to leave them nameless here to protect the guilty.
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