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#1003398 - 03/26/06 07:48 PM Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
soundworthy
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Hi All,
I'm new to your land here, and it seems like you're calling out for new blood anyway, So I'm just letting you know I'm here.

I’m currently doing research for my PhD out of Southern Cross University, Lismore, Australia. My research is focusing on music composition designed for surround sound. Presently I’m looking for references to any creative projects or releases where the music was designed for 5.1 or 6.1.

Some Surround Background;
My Honours degree (2002-4) focused on Re-Mixing music (that was designed for stereo) in 5.1 for which I produced a DVD-A showcasing remixes from previously released albums that I had recorded and mixed, thus I had all the multi tracks. My Honours research focussed on creating approaches and techniques that at that point in time I had not heard or read about for opening up the sweet spot to a larger listening area that is friendlier to a domestic 5.1 environment by creating more of a 5.1 image rather than simply discreetly positioned instruments.

So I’m looking for references to any creative projects or releases where the music was designed for 5.1 or 6.1, as well as any conferences, talks and forums that enter into the subject of music composed for surround.

While I'm not a new commer to the subject I hope you can appreciate that while Australia is a great place to live it lacks some of the opportuities that the world has to offer in regards to surround.

Seems like you all are well versed and working well in 5.1
I'll try to offer anything whenever on whatever I can.
Michael Worthington

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#1003399 - 03/28/06 11:35 PM Re: Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
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Welcome aboard. Check back thru the files , when times were a bit more alive. Don't worry, it'll come back around.
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#1003400 - 03/28/06 11:35 PM Re: Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
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Welcome aboard. Check back thru the files , when times were a bit more alive. Don't worry, it'll come back around.
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#1003401 - 03/28/06 11:35 PM Re: Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
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Welcome aboard. Check back thru the files , when times were a bit more alive. Don't worry, it'll come back around.
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#1003402 - 03/29/06 10:45 AM Re: Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
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There are a lot of releases that were designed, written, recorded & conceived with 5.1 in mind.

For high profile, check out bands such as Porcupine Tree, and the recent Talking Heads "Brick", and the new series of Depeche Mode reissues all in high quality 5.1

I can also recommend a forum called
http://www.quadraphonicquad.com
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#1003403 - 03/30/06 05:45 PM Re: Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
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Hi Neil, blas,
Thanks for the welcome and that info, anything like that is great.
I'm also trying to find any accademic papers on surround theory, recording and/or mixing.
There is an abundance of industry publications on theory and practice, but very little accademic. Ever come across any?
Michael

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#1003404 - 04/01/06 01:02 PM Re: Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
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What sort of material are you after, exactly?
To me, "Academic" doesn't really mean much (sorry, I'm a sound engineer) and I'm not being facetious either.

I have quite a collection of well written papers I would definitely call academic, but would like clarification on exactly the type of material you need.
Once I get this, in easy words (sorry - couldn't resist) I will be happy to help.
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#1003405 - 04/02/06 01:00 AM Re: Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
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\:D Thanks Neil.
I understand what you mean, and I don’t wish or mean to come across as anything other than an engineer doing some surround research.
FYI by academic paper I mean; a paper that has been published as an article in a journal for academic reference through a university, alternatively in the form of a thesis for Honours, Masters or PhD.
Any writings; books, magazines, conferences and internet publications (regardless of well written or academic they appear) are referred to as industry publications.
All of the above (both aca’ and ind’) I can use for reference in my research; it’s just a lot easier to come across industry publications than academic, therefore I’m advertising for help.
When introducing myself in person I refer to myself as an Audio Engineer because that is my primary source of income, other years I’ve referred to myself as a lecturer. I often find myself wearing either hat for different situations, and in this one I’m both audio engineer and an academic researcher, so I have a hard time balancing the hats.
There are at times very large gorges between Academics and Industry Practitioners and I seem to sit on a very wide fence.
Sorry, I also waffle on.
So I’m interested in anything you think is of value in the pursuit of knowledge, references to any papers or creative projects where the music was designed for 5.1 or 6.1, as well as any publications that enter into the subject of music composed specifically for surround monitoring.

I checked out the links you gave me, great!
Also I’ve ordered the Porcupine Tree DVD-A.
Michael

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#1003406 - 04/04/06 08:40 AM Re: Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
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http://www.tonmeister.de/foren/surround/texte/SSF_01_1_E_2002_v2a.PDF
http://www.grammy.com/Recording_Academy/Producers_And_Engineers/Guidelines/

These are 2 very good papers.
You would also do well to research the works of Stanley Lipshitz of the AES - although he is, like me, biased towards PCM over DSD.
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#1003407 - 04/04/06 09:58 AM Re: Assistance in 5.1/6.1 PhD research
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Thanks Neil,
All those papers will will come in handy.
The SURROUND SOUND FORUM paper is excellent!

I also lean towards PCM

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