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Rocommend a synth?

Posted By: dfcas

Rocommend a synth? - 02/07/19 03:07 PM

Old geezer here. i missed the entire synth era and frankly after reading for months i sometimes don't even understand the conversations. I just play at home,and currently have an A100 and leslie and a Hammond SK1-73. I'd like to experiment with a synth but have no idea what to buy. Is there anything used under a $1000 that is recent vintage and is a good value? Prefer semi=weighted and presets as opposed to lots of menu diving. If new is better, I could go up to $2000. There is a Dave Smith Prophet Rev/2 semi local to me for sale but I dunno how user friendly those are. Thanks
Posted By: johnchop

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/07/19 03:14 PM

Ok, so it has to have a keyboard (no module) and I assume it should have full-size keys.

I'm also going to assume you want something polyphonic.

Does it have to be able to play more than one sound simultaneously?

The Rev/2 would keep you busy for years, assuming you like the basic sound character.
Posted By: GRollins

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/07/19 03:29 PM

I would suggest starting with whatever music you like and see what synths they were playing when they recorded those records. For better or worse, your idea of what a synth is supposed to sound like is probably already formed...

Buying used is fine. I've bought the majority of my stuff used and I'm pretty pleased with the results.

YouTube is your friend. There are demo clips of nearly anything you could ask for out there and it will save you boodles of money not to buy something that won't sound right to you. In my case, the Dave Smith synths just don't work. That's not to say that they won't work for you. My point is that you can listen to a dozen demos and have some idea of what the thing sounds like before you plunk down your hard-earned cash.

Consult Reverb and eBay to see what various models typically sell for so you don't get fleeced.

Grey
Posted By: Stokely

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/07/19 03:49 PM

Depending on the type of sounds you are after, I'm a big fan of the Access Virus. Very "knobby", you can do many things on the front menu. A little out of your range unless you buy used. I've been looking around myself for a Virus C (a bit older) as you can pick these up way more cheaply than the newer ones, and they aren't all that different in basic sound and programming IMO.

If you do buy used, and are in the US, I love Guitar Center used. They ship cheaply, and you can return it locally within 30 days. That is huge. 30 days to find some issue or flaw that you didn't notice when looking at it out in a parking lot somewhere after talking to someone on Craigslist.

I recently started peeking around myself and the synth market has really taken off. Not that I care that much about this, but there are "actual analog" keyboards around again in the first time since...forever? grin Behringer Deepmind would be one of the cheaper ones. Korg Prologue, Dave Smith Rev 2 have been a couple I've heard are very nice. The Roland JD-xa recently caught my eye.

Edit: I see you mentioned the Rev 2. If I needed strictly synth tones right now I'd be looking strongly at that. I love the Prophet tones and I've heard this is a winner. Also, the keys are supposed to be top notch (this is something I really love about the Virus as well).

If you mean "synth" in the general sense and not strictly "synthesizer" then there are more options, with varying degrees of control "out in the open". Do you have some specific sounds/genres you might be going after?
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/07/19 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: dfcas
Prefer semi=weighted and presets as opposed to lots of menu diving.

As stokley alluded to, people classify different kinds of boards as "synths." If you mean synthesizer in the classic sense, action will almost certainly be unweighted or semi-weighted (not fully weighted/hammer), and the choice would not be between presets and menu-diving, but rather menu-diving vs. direct controls. Boards with menu diving will have presets. Boards with direct control may or may not have presets.

All the other comments here are filled with good ideas/questions to try to narrow down what you're looking for.
Posted By: jeffinpghpa

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/07/19 07:21 PM

Get a controller like the new rev of Arturia KeyLab MK2, Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol, etc. and do your synth learning in software.

You'll not only get your fix, but you can get a big old bag of synths in the Arturia V Collection 6 for a few hundred bucks and have the experience of your DX7, Jupiter, Buchla, CMI Fairlight, Moog, ARP, Synclavier, Prophet, CS-80, Solina, etc. and entertain yourself for an eternity.

Would I ever need or buy a Buchla Easel? Of course not. Is it hella lotta fun to have this in software. Yes it is! And for the price of my beer money.
Posted By: David Emm

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/07/19 07:31 PM

I encourage the idea of a used Dave Smith Prophet '08, a 61-note instrument. Prophets tend to come with a generous number of useful presets straight from the box. You get enough knobs that you can easily learn the major moves you'll want to make most often. Tweaking the filter for a brighter sound or adding a little time to an envelope's decay and release for a longer fade-out will become second nature. I politely advise against the Roland JD-Xa, as its a hybrid synth that calls for a little more programming experience to apply readily. The new Yamaha MODX is retailing at $1299, to great reviews. Its heart is a touchscreen that's easy to use and it sports just enough of the right knobs and sliders, IMO. As a serious organist with some SK use under your belt, I suspect you'll make the connection between playing drawbars and playing knobs more readily than you might think right now. Don't buy a used instrument that's too close to "vintage," as they often have expensive repair issues due to age, just like us. facepalm

I don't think you really want a totally analog instrument as much as a ROMpler (Read Only Memory), which offers samples of both acoustic and electronic sounds. While there is always a lively debate about the nature and quality of sound-production methods, ROMplers often come with a few permanently assigned knobs and then some which are user-assignable. The MODX could add choirs, bells and the like to your organ palette, while those knobs would teach you the basics of synthesis. Its win-win for newbies. Whatever you buy, don't be too daunted, because we all embrace the complexities until we find the right personal zone. The goal isn't necessarily to become a technical expert, but to expand your own musical range. I envy you a bit, because you're about to have the great rush of fun that comes from the newness of it. I wish you good luck as you proceed. thu
Posted By: Music Bird

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/07/19 08:48 PM

If Yamaha makes a MX49/61, but with Montage sounds, I’d recommend it.
Let’s see,
What kind of music do you make?
What synth sounds do you want?
I’d recommend either a MODX-6, Juno DS-61, FA-06, or Korg Krome 61.
Posted By: Tusker

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/08/19 02:03 AM

Originally Posted By: johnchop
The Rev/2 would keep you busy for years, assuming you like the basic sound character.


thu

I agree that the Rev2 should be on your list of synths to try. It has an effects section, so it's the complete package.

Because you play an A100, consider an analog polysynth with one knob per function. Ideally it would have some reverb or delay effect in it (because it's less complicated for you if the effects are built in).

A second synth could be a complex digital synth, but I think you want to start with one-knob-per-function analog (with presets). If you are ok with a "mere" monosynth ... perhaps you should consider the iconic Moog/Hammond combination? (There's the Grandmother and Sub37 for example. The Grandmother has a spring reverb, but no presets.)


(Corey Henry with Hammond and Moog Voyager. The Moog speaks at 3.15)


Posted By: Tusker

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/08/19 11:03 AM

Originally Posted By: JerryA

Because you play an A100, consider an analog polysynth with one knob per function. Ideally it would have some reverb or delay effect in it (because it's less complicated for you if the effects are built in).


Sorry ... that's a cryptic sentence. Let me explain. Presumably, on the Hammond, you have trained your body to press certain knobs and switches and feel/hear the difference in sound as you play. You might often feel a particular type of emotion when swelling on the pedal, or pulling out a certain set of drawbars. I do.

A one-knob-per-function synth will be the most natural outgrowth of that way of playing. Therefore you will have a much more musical experience bonding with a Rev 2 (which is pretty close to one-knob-per-function) than a Deepmind 12 (which has sliders for many functions but requires menu diving), and you will have a better time with the Deepmind 12 (or 6) than you would with a Yamaha MODX (a fantastic synth, for someone else.). You will have a wider tonal pallet in the presets of the MODX, than in the presets of the other two ... but the other two will have a wide enough tonal pallet to radically extend what you do on the Hammond.

Ditto for any mono-synths you may consider. Hope this helps.
Posted By: KorgyPorky

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/08/19 05:13 PM

I would say..

Behringer model D..

Its affordable, its basically a minimoog, still the mother of all monosynths to me..
A great instrument to start your travels in the world of synthesis.
And you have enough money left to buy a deepmind 12 to controll it..
Posted By: Bill H.

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/08/19 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: dfcas
Old geezer here. i missed the entire synth era and frankly after reading for months i sometimes don't even understand the conversations.


The big unanswered question here is do you want to learn? Or do you just want to play presets?

If the answer is the latter, anything that sounds good to you will work. If you want to learn the basics of subtractive analog synthesis, the Rev2 isn't bad - but there are even simpler synths to learn on such as...

Nord Lead! rimshot (actually being serious this time) laugh


A casual cruise of the local CL revealed a used Rev2 for just $1100 - and that's asking price and it's been there for awhile. I think you probably could get one for under $1000 - which is your stated goal. A Rev2 is a lot of synth for a grand. Don't think you could go wrong with one.
Posted By: JoJoB3

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/08/19 09:17 PM

Originally Posted By: KorgyPorky
I would say..

Behringer model D..

Its affordable, its basically a minimoog, still the mother of all monosynths to me..
A great instrument to start your travels in the world of synthesis.
And you have enough money left to buy a deepmind 12 to controll it..


I know it's the 'B-word' but I agree. I played the Deepmind 12 and it's an affordable (and wiser) answer to the 106, plus added bang for the buck. This part of the B Company is making some decent stuff, hat's off to them. I own their Model D and have an orig Model D in studio, the comparisons came down to such minutia it's not worth discussing.

Pair the Deepmind with their Model D and you can do much damage (and save a lot of $)
Posted By: David Emm

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/08/19 09:32 PM

I amend my earlier suggestion to add the Rev2 to the idea of the '08. Its earned a good reputation. JerryA isn't wrong about the MODX, but its 4 knobs and 4 sliders are not an unreasonable compromise. They're a cross between preset and assignable. You may feel okay with that or prefer a more knob-per-function instrument. Its a bit hard to decide on a new tool, in a good way, because there are very few truly bad choices now.
Posted By: Synthaholic

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 02:42 AM

A used Jupiter 80 would also be a nice introduction.
Posted By: SteeVtheRipper

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 03:36 AM

Don’t forget about the Prophet 08. Used prices are pretty fair and it’s also a lot of synth for the money. Rev 2 for a little more.

Personally I really like the Novation Peak, but you’d need a controller.
Posted By: Synthoid

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 11:48 AM

Seems the OP hasn't returned yet. idk
Posted By: GRollins

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 12:26 PM

...which leaves us in a rather one-sided discussion.

It's hard to make suggestions when you're not getting feedback or answers to your questions.

Grey
Posted By: ksoper

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 12:32 PM

Then, this is your open thread.

Groove vs pocket. Same thing?
Posted By: Synthoid

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 12:34 PM

Depends how much lint is in the pocket.
Posted By: drawback

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 12:48 PM

Originally Posted By: ksoper
Then, this is your open thread.

Groove vs pocket. Same thing?


Why not post that where it counts? There’s nothin’ like a Saturday morning can o’ worms.
Posted By: RABid

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 01:07 PM

Forget ROMplers. You have that covered. For one knob per function analog or virtual analog I would suggest a used DSI or Access Virus. Or maybe a Behringer Deepmind 12.
Posted By: GRollins

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 01:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Depends how much lint is in the pocket.



Silly me...I thought Lent was down closer to Easter, certainly not before Valentine's...

Grey
Posted By: KorgyPorky

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 02:42 PM

Originally Posted By: RABid
Forget ROMplers. You have that covered. For one knob per function analog or virtual analog I would suggest a used DSI or Access Virus. Or maybe a Behringer Deepmind 12.


As said, behringer deepmind12+ model D and you have both polo as mono synths covered.. for about €1000...

You will not find a DSI synth for that money.. atleast not the ones you would want...
Posted By: dfcas

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 03:47 PM

I'm still here and reading. The used Rev2 seems to have sold, so that may change the calculus. I'm reading and learning from you guys but I have nothing intelligent to offer.
Posted By: GRollins

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 04:01 PM

1) What kind of music appeals to you?
2) Who played on the album and what did s/he play?
3) If you're hearing a sound in your head that you can't find on an album, do your best to describe it.

Grey
Posted By: Randelph

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 05:23 PM

Another way to get your feet wet with very little cash outlay is to get Syntronik. If you have an ipad, you can buy the app very cheaply, they even have a free download with restricted functionality. You can generate some massive soundscapes with it, because unlike mono-timbral synths, this app can play 4 sounds at once, mapped across the keyboard as desired. And the effects are killer.

The onscreen display gives you most of the knobs of a knobby synth, and allows you to play with many different sounding synths, and change up the filter as desired. That way you can learn a bit more about how subtractive synthesis works, how important effects are to the final sound, and start developing your ear for what you like and don't like about the synth sound. For easy chair auditioning, it doesn't get much better- sit down with an iPad in your lap, hook up the headphone out (or dongle) to a speaker, and audition sounds, adjust parameters, etc. A cheap, used 37 or 49 note controller, as little as $100-$150 new, or less if you buy used, makes this auditioning of sounds more enjoyable than just playing the iPad onscreen keyboard.

For myself I really don't like how piercing/shrill the high end of many synth sounds are, but you can tame with the filter cutoff and eq. The presets of many sounds on Syntronik sound like they were made for EDM, most of which are a turn off to me.

The problem with a well-endowed program like Syntronik, is there's a couple of thousand presets! Same goes for many soft synths out there that need a controller. Learning to hear what you like and don't like is an education in and of itself, esp as many of the sounds are bizarre and not in the usual pallette of music colors. There are many resources on the web for learning subtractive synthesis, some of which start very simply and train your ear for understanding what you're hearing, so you know how to adjust the sound.

Are you interested in learning about it?

Randy

Posted By: drawback

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/09/19 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Randelph
Another way to get your feet wet with very little cash outlay is to get Syntronik.



Or Audiokit Synth One
Posted By: dfcas

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/10/19 01:13 PM

I don't have good eyesight so I don't think I want to try an iPad solution. Also, I'm just not attracted to it as I don't want to play a computer:) I'm more interested in a hardware solution and I'm investigating a Nord A1. Is it user friendly?

One of the things I like about my SK1 is I can use the 10 presets or the drawbars and never have to use the screen.
Posted By: drawback

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/10/19 01:24 PM

Then, I wonder if a Roland Juno DS61 might be the answer!
Posted By: Synthoid

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/11/19 10:13 AM

Originally Posted By: dfcas
I'm more interested in a hardware solution and I'm investigating a Nord A1. Is it user friendly?


It's nice but expensive.




Lots of other suggestions given for more affordable keyboards. I'd recommend visiting a local music store and auditioning some synths if you can.
Posted By: Tusker

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/11/19 10:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Synthoid

Lots of other suggestions given for more affordable keyboards.



thu

The A1 is a well built synth which packs a lot of features. However it's feature to price ratio is not a significant asset.

Also bear in mind that while it has presets and lots of knobs, it is not one-knob-per-function. There are some screens to be read as you navigate the instrument .... (see below)

Posted By: Marzzz

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/11/19 10:51 AM

Originally Posted By: JerryA
(Corey Henry with Hammond and Moog Voyager. The Moog speaks at 3.15)



Well, that was amazing...
Posted By: RudyS

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/11/19 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: JerryA
Originally Posted By: Synthoid

Lots of other suggestions given for more affordable keyboards.



thu

The A1 is a well built synth which packs a lot of features. However it's feature to price ratio is not a significant asset.

Also bear in mind that while it has presets and lots of knobs, it is not one-knob-per-function. There are some screens to be read as you navigate the instrument .... (see below)



You can argue the definition of "one-knob-per function". The A1 has some small LCD's, but it is to read out what 1 knob is doing. So there is never a menu type of structure behind it. The are sometimes 2 functions per knob with shift engaged. Some global settings do need to be set by some "menu diving". For me personally the A1 feels like a 1 knob per function synth, but of course it's not a Moog (aka a Real 1 knob per function).

That said, I wouldn't recommend the A1 for a beginner. Mostly because it is not that intuitive to program due to the oscillator algorithms and layout. I do really like the sound of my A1, and now I'm used to it, I can build a lot of different patches on it. Very flexibel live synth..
Posted By: Tusker

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/11/19 12:26 PM

Originally Posted By: RudyS
You can argue the definition of "one-knob-per function".


Not me. wink I misspoke Rudy. The issue is not one-knob-per function but that there is complexity in the oscillator section which doesn't lend itself to muscle memory, correct?

Originally Posted By: RudyS
That said, I wouldn't recommend the A1 for a beginner. Mostly because it is not that intuitive to program due to the oscillator algorithms and layout. I do really like the sound of my A1, and now I'm used to it, I can build a lot of different patches on it. Very flexibel live synth..


It packs a lot into very little. thu
Posted By: dfcas

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/11/19 02:22 PM

I live in a small town in West Virginia, and there is no store I can go to and see synths. Also, driving is difficult for me so I can't go into Pittsburgh. I pretty much have to window shop from home and take my chances.

I play at home, and often I just pick a song on youtube and play along, or play along with a radio station I stream and play along with whatever comes on. Great ear training. I mostly listen to classic rock from the 60's.70's, and 80's, so i'd rather set up some presets and push a button and go.

I'd prefer a semi weighted action as synth actions usually feel much lighter and different than my A100 or SK1.
Posted By: RudyS

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/11/19 05:42 PM

I don’t think you will like the keybed of A1 then! It’s very light and “springy”. Its actually one of the few things I dislike of the A1.
Posted By: CEB

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/11/19 06:02 PM

If you want to learn subtractive synthesis for less than $1000 then a Studiologic Sledge. If you want something that sounds good maybe a Waldorf Blofeld keyboard. Still not sure if you want a synth or a rompler.
Posted By: J. Dan

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/12/19 02:14 AM

Everybody's been beating around it but it hasn't been clarified, thus, there are a very wide variety of options suggested that are incongruent. Let's start with a base of terminology:

monosynth - these synthesizers play one note at a time and typically have knob per function or close to it. Good for bass lines, leads, and sound effects. May or may not have patch storage. Most famous historical example: Moog Model D (minimoog)

Polysynth - like the monosynth, sounds are created typically turning knobs to adjust one of 3 distinct sections: 1) Oscillator (basis of the sound) 2) Filter (shape the sound) 3) amplifier (control volume transients....sharp or slow attack or release). The main difference is these can play chords, not just one note at a time. Some can even split the keyboard Andy play multiple sounds simultaneously. Patch storage, or presets, are much more common though not guaranteed. Early examples were the Proohet 5, Oberheim SEM, OBX, etc, and Jupiter 8, though maybe one of the earliest was the Yamaha CS line. There are a TON of modern polysynths on the market.
ROMpler - these essentially use permanent samples (recordings) of other instruments. Most of the time, it would be the best way to digitally replicate a piano, or a saxophone, or a violin, etc. but it can also contain samples of instruments from the last 2 categories, so that you can have a wide palette of "presets" at your fingertips, but with less editing. Think about it his way. When you play a Hammond, as part of the performance, have 9 drawbars each with 8 positions you can manipulate to alter the sound as you play. In a ROMpler, they may have a patch of 888000000 and another one of 888888888 and you can pick one or the other, but you can't manipulate them in real time.

That's the essence of the question of what you want. If you want to grab knobs and make your own sounds, and manipulate in the fly, you need a "knobby" synth. If you're just going to pull up a preset and play it as is, you would be spending a LOT of money on features you'll never use in an analog or VA (knobby) synth compared to the huge library of ready to go sounds in a ROMpler.

If you can clarify that, we can drill into useful suggestions.
Posted By: Synthoid

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/15/19 11:33 AM

Have we reached a decision yet? smile
Posted By: paulmapp8306

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/15/19 11:45 AM

I have another suggestion.

Id use the SK1-73 as a control board - it has the right action and you already own it. Then pick up a Novation Peak. Great synth - lots of knobs with some small amount of menu diving - but its limited and intuitive. Lots of presets to play with.

If you dont want to pay that much, and dont mind a little more menu diving (but still with lots of hands on) the DM12 module. Its not as good as the peak though. For a touch more than the Peak you could get a DSI Rev 2 8 voice desktop. Its a touch call between the Peak and DSi - BUT I think the peak covers more ground (and you dont know what you really want to do yet) including some FM sounds and wavetables.

but - definately use the SK1 as your control board at this point - unless you can get a suitable synth with a Keyboard, used, at the right price.

The other option is to try softsynths provided you have a suitable PC. There are many free ones, and a whole bunch at low cost. you may need a Midi to usb converter. The SK1 does have both midi AND a usb out - but I dont know if the usb carries midi data or if its for FW updates and the like only. Either way thats likely your cheapest option - BUT you will loose hands on control of those knobs which may not be what you want. It will teach you synthesis though.
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/15/19 02:01 PM

A possible problem with the SK1 as a controller for synth work is the lack of pitch and mod wheels.
Posted By: dfcas

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/15/19 02:10 PM

No decision yet. Still enjoying the thinking/shopping process.
Posted By: GRollins

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/15/19 04:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Have we reached a decision yet? smile





I'm afraid to say more without some feedback from the OP. It's hard to guess what might work without some sort of answers to the questions posed above. You can drown someone in suggestions, but a lot--maybe most--of them will be wide of the mark.

Grey
Posted By: David Emm

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/17/19 03:16 AM

After following the thread for a while, I feel even more convinced that the OP would be better off with a Prophet '08 or Rev2. Here's why: they're set up in the most friendly manner for teaching subtractive synthesis, whose basics apply across most other forms of it. If he starts out able to FEEL his way along and experiment a bit, it'll sink in better than a month of tutorials. All of the other current polyphonics are either much more Virus-pricey or take alternate approaches like the Roland JD-Xa. A Prophet is the most MiniMoog-like in use and fits his budget. Besides, your first synth rarely ends up being your best; you have to start somewhere so you can learn how to assess your next one(s). I also get the feeling that as an SK player, he'll likely prefer a 5-octave instrument. A newbie should have every advantage they can get. My 7˘ more.
Posted By: paulmapp8306

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/17/19 05:06 AM

its not flawless, but you can do both with foot controllers if you need those options.

Ultimately the OP is wanting to "dip his toes in" and "learn". he can do that using the sky and models (and some a lot cheaper than even the Deep Mind) . If he gets into it and whats to use the odd features, he can add a nice controller boards - or a cheaper control surface with knobs and sliders.
Posted By: paulmapp8306

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/17/19 05:09 AM

Originally Posted By: David Emm
After following the thread for a while, I feel even more convinced that the OP would be better off with a Prophet '08 or Rev2. Here's why: they're set up in the most friendly manner for teaching subtractive synthesis, whose basics apply across most other forms of it. If he starts out able to FEEL his way along and experiment a bit, it'll sink in better than a month of tutorials. All of the other current polyphonics are either much more Virus-pricey or take alternate approaches like the Roland JD-Xa. A Prophet is the most MiniMoog-like in use and fits his budget. Besides, your first synth rarely ends up being your best; you have to start somewhere so you can learn how to assess your next one(s). I also get the feeling that as an SK player, he'll likely prefer a 5-octave instrument. A newbie should have every advantage they can get. My 7˘ more.



Then why note a Studioloic Sledge 2? laid out in the same kind of way. granted fx/mods and as comprehensive BUT for learning its a fine board. Anit its less than half the price of a new Rev 2.
Posted By: hardware

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/17/19 05:35 AM

Sounds like the OP would like a Prophet or an Oberheim OBX.
They are way too expensive, so the newer versions have much better action, plus are cheaper.

The recent OB6 is an excellent Polyphonic and Monophonic synth.
It’s easier than learning cross modulation, etc. on the Prophets.

Think of Tom Sawyers intro and melody, think of Jump, think of synth string pads of the 80s, lots of OBX and OB8 recordings out there.
Posted By: uhoh7

Re: Rocommend a synth? - 02/24/19 04:43 AM

I'm sort of in the same boat as the OP, but I've been down the rabbit hole of current options on the Ytube for several months.

Holy C there are alot of options today.

Today I was thinking I out to just grab a Modx 61 which seemed so complete until I hit the lame sequencer (i know i can add one many ways). I really like that new behringer 101 clone, which has a ton of connectivity, and it just looks like a awesome first synth, and only 300 bucks.

For the OP and any not familar with the MS-101:
https://youtu.be/vXd-pXkueBA

Now considering OP's vision issue this might just be a option to consider, and it's not too pricey (looks just killer to me) Behringer Odyssey
https://youtu.be/KXpxwQgiP6Q
and
https://youtu.be/N_89CG6VlIc

Both of those will be released in the next month or so.

But I also need a good usable drum system...which had m looking at both the new volca drum, and the behringer 808 clone. I love the model D clone and the neutron.

Then I look at the system 8, peak, and the very affordable deep-mind 12, and a bunch of like style (including sledge) Polyphony!! I'm about to have a stroke just trying to keep the options straight.

I need to fire up the RT3 and calm down....I can turn on the pedal solo and claim I have the oldest true synth fired up of maybe any member on the board LOL


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