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Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?)

Posted By: Roland_Guy

Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 03:13 AM

So I have been monitoring this app for a while now, and saw yesterday that it officially releases in a few weeks. There was a BETA available so hoping some of you guys here can give feedback.

If you have tried the BETA do you think this could be the iOS mainstage? What interests me most is the ability to save song presets and switch between them with my midi controller, kind of like Kronos set list. Some videos on YouTube of Rudess demoing it as well.

https://www.camelotpro.com/
Posted By: Rod S

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 07:04 AM

Hadn't heard of it. Will certainly keep an eye on it when it is released. Thanks for the post.
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 10:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Roland_Guy
What interests me most is the ability to save song presets and switch between them with my midi controller, kind of like Kronos set list.

There are already apps that save song presets (routing MIDI info to various external devices and other internal apps), but I think people have typically wanted to be able to use the iPad screen itself to do the sound switching (as opposed to switching with your MIDI controller). It's an interesting question as to whether any of these apps respond to MIDI Program Change to select their song presets (presets which, in turn, send MIDI Program Changes out to other apps/devices), so you could do your song selection from your controller instead of from the iPad's screen. It's nothing I've ever looked into. What controller would you be using?
Posted By: Roland_Guy

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 12:17 PM

I’m using the nektar lx61+. Great little budget midi controller.
Posted By: Bobby Simons

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 01:28 PM

I had forgotten all about Camelot - I look forward to its release.

Also, there is KeyStage to look into. Check out what this guy apparently does live with his app:



And here's a tutorial video:


Posted By: drawback

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Bobby Simons
I had forgotten all about Camelot - I look forward to its release.


As do I. Rest assured, if Camelot makes an impact, Mainstage iOS won’t be far behind.
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 03:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Roland_Guy
I’m using the nektar lx61+.

Ah yes, it's in your sig! But did I misunderstand about your wanting to call up the iOS patches from your MIDI controller? Because just looking at a pic, I don't see any buttons on the nektar that would be well suited for that, compared to on-screen selection.

Originally Posted By: drawback
Rest assured, if Camelot makes an impact, Mainstage iOS won’t be far behind.

I don't know what marketing and/or technical factors are behind Apple's app decisions, but I wouldn't assume that they are influenced by things like that.
Posted By: Bobby Simons

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 04:15 PM

Originally Posted By: AnotherScott

I don't know what marketing and/or technical factors are behind Apple's app decisions, but I wouldn't assume that they are influenced by things like that.

Agreed. On the other hand, I don’t know what influenced them to create - and maintain - Mainstage in the first place. Sure, they were halfway there with Logic, but so have been other platforms.

I’m glad as hell that they did, but to this day still very surprised.
Posted By: drawback

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 04:26 PM

I guess we’ll see. From a marketing perspective it makes perfect sense to me! Sorry I didn’t want to take this thread sideways.
Posted By: stoken6

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
It's an interesting question as to whether any of these apps respond to MIDI Program Change to select their song presets (presets which, in turn, send MIDI Program Changes out to other apps/devices), so you could do your song selection from your controller instead of from the iPad's screen.

Set List Maker and BandHelper can do this. Each "song" can be associated with (reception of) a MIDI program change, which will select the song. Each song can also transmit a number of "MIDI Presets" which are typically bank select/program changes but can be an arbitrary MIDI string instead.

I only use the transmit side of BandHelper, selecting songs from the touchscreen, because my NS2 isn't the sharpest, erm, program-changing knife in the, uh, controller drawer...

(I'll get me coat)

Cheers, Mike.
Posted By: Bobby Simons

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: drawback

As do I. Rest assured, if Camelot makes an impact, Mainstage iOS won’t be far behind.

The iOS community is understandably jonesin' for a Mainstage - the current collection of available instruments/music apps available is positively glorious.
Posted By: tfort

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/24/18 09:59 PM

I’d guess Apple had the basic specs of the new iPad pros figured out about two years ago. Assuming they shared this within the company with the Logic team (very likely), I think it’s possible they may have iOS versions of Logic and MainStage nearly complete, assuming they’re in the works to begin with. They certainly have been talking up the iPad Pros as pro-level devices. They also like to talk about “eating their own dog food,” and their flagship pro apps are Final Cut Pro and Logic. I’m looking forward to the “NAMM eve” Logic update, or some leaks from the recent ADC/JUCE conference. I also think if Logic and Mainstage for iOS were ready they’d have been released alongside the new iPad pros rather than waiting for NAMM.

I’ve downloaded the Camelot iOS beta, but not the Mac one. It actually runs on my iPad Mini 2 running the latest iOS 12 beta, and finds my AUv3 plugins easily, including Ravenscroft 275, Model D, Galileo 2, Synthmaster One, Syntronik, and Quanta. It also sees KB-1 and BeatMaker 3 as MIDI outputs. Playing around a bit with it now with my new Black Friday apps. Camelot just found my XKey Air once I connected to it in the XKey Plus app.
Posted By: Roland_Guy

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/13/18 07:50 AM

Camelot Pro out now on iOS. I downloaded it and it’s great. Closest thing to main stage now. The plugins it supports are only audio unit right now, I hear IAA coming soon. Also a built in backtrack player also on its way.

So far so good, splits, layers, song switching, score charts are all done from my keyboard, no touching of iPad needed. Softsynths take like 1-3 seconds to load when switching songs.

Testing out this rig at my next gig. Been having great success with all iPad rig lately. Ravenscroft and neo soul keys being the stars of the show, rock solid no crashes.
Posted By: Michael Wright

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/13/18 10:39 AM

Bought it just now, it looks pretty hip! thu
Posted By: ElmerJFudd

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/13/18 11:12 AM

Does it have a way to automatically launch AU's for iOS and save and recall settings on those instruments and effects including routing in the "host" mixer?
Posted By: drawback

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/13/18 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Does it have a way to automatically launch AU's for iOS and save and recall settings on those instruments and effects including routing in the "host" mixer?



My question also!
Posted By: bob_sd

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/13/18 09:13 PM

#9 in paid music category in App Store!
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/14/18 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: stoken6
Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
It's an interesting question as to whether any of these apps respond to MIDI Program Change to select their song presets (presets which, in turn, send MIDI Program Changes out to other apps/devices), so you could do your song selection from your controller instead of from the iPad's screen.

Set List Maker and BandHelper can do this. Each "song" can be associated with (reception of) a MIDI program change, which will select the song. Each song can also transmit a number of "MIDI Presets" which are typically bank select/program changes

I see that iMidiPatchbay does this, too.

Originally Posted By: Bobby Simons
The iOS community is understandably jonesin' for a Mainstage - the current collection of available instruments/music apps available is positively glorious.
Originally Posted By: Roland_Guy
Camelot Pro out now on iOS. I downloaded it and it’s great. Closest thing to main stage now.

Camelot Pro looks cool, but I'm not sure where it is any closer to Mainstage than iMidiPatchbay or KeyStage. Each seems to have some nice features, each lets you create recallable split/layered combinations of hardware and software sounds, none provides a sound library (as Mainstage does), in what respect is one of these more like Mainstage than the others?
Posted By: Roland_Guy

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/14/18 04:08 AM

The way that I can switch between songs and set lists, sheet music with just my midi controller makes it closer to Mainstage for me. I agree having built in sounds would be the icing on the cake, as native plugins should load and be stable consistently.

My only caveat right now is that AUv3 does not load in RAM throughout the loaded set. So each song each Au has to be loaded again, think this could be an apple restriction. The iPad Pro 1Tb has 6Gb Ram! We really should be seeing Mainstage on iOS, the power is there. I run 30 songs and about 100 multi tracks tracks on a 4Gb RAM Mac mini Mainstage setup lol.
Posted By: mobi

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/14/18 08:19 AM

Originally Posted By: AnotherScott

Camelot Pro looks cool, but I'm not sure where it is any closer to Mainstage than iMidiPatchbay or KeyStage. Each seems to have some nice features, each lets you create recallable split/layered combinations of hardware and software sounds, none provides a sound library (as Mainstage does), in what respect is one of these more like Mainstage than the others?



KeyStage seems more flexible , (if you want to use a lot of ios instruments,) has a very powerful midi filter and transform options. I've tried it with many ios apps haven't found any important issues, it sends a midi prg chg to recall the settings in your ios apps. Still a work in progress , but right now it's more useful than the other 2 apps for an ios based rig
Posted By: fjzingo

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/14/18 09:25 AM

Updated the internal sound list in Camelot for my montage. It took forever....will update for my nord lead 4 tonight. The plan is to have one hub for controlling all synts from two keyboards at home. The split functions are easy to handle and the app really mitigates montages crippled midisection.
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/14/18 05:48 PM

Originally Posted By: mobi
KeyStage seems more flexible , (if you want to use a lot of ios instruments,) has a very powerful midi filter and transform options. I've tried it with many ios apps haven't found any important issues, it sends a midi prg chg to recall the settings in your ios apps. Still a work in progress , but right now it's more useful than the other 2 apps for an ios based rig

From a very quick perusal, iMidiPatchbay seems easiest to use, it can display charts, and it works even on an iPhone. Biggest limitation seems to be that it supports only up to 4 zones.

KeyStage seems more flexible, but more complex. Very notable feature: seamless sound transitions when switching patches. (Does anyone else have that?)

Camelot Pro seems more limited in which other iOS apps it will work with compared to the other two. It does display charts, though. From what I've seen so far, its biggest advantages seem to be that it is cross-platform; and as RG said, you can control a lot of its functions over MIDI from your controller; and probably most interesting to me, they are building in specific hardware integration. So for example, if you're using a supported board, instead of having to look up the MSB/LSB/PC numbers to enter to call up a specific sound on your board and/or type the name of the sound into the app (as you would with the others), CP already knows what numbers are associated with which sound and it can retrieve patch names from the boards so you don't have to type them in. It also gives you more on-screen control of various parameters of the sound and the individual parts within a multi-part sound. The usefulness of this feature, of course, depends on using it with those specially supported boards, but more will be added.

So, to any of you who have used these... Did I get that right? What other noteworthy differences have you found?
Posted By: mobi

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/16/18 09:43 AM

Originally Posted By: AnotherScott


KeyStage seems more flexible, but more complex.



Keystage it's not complex , just took me 10 min to figure out everything,
displays charts, has a configurable real time XY control , you can create instruments presets in order to use em for different songs ( routings,prg ch, cc mappings,etc)

I've purchased all 3 apps, so far I'll stick with Keystage , most flexible if your goal it's having everything inside you ipad .

The only thing missing right now, it's a flexible song set list feature, right now takes like 2 secs to load a new song ( the developer stated at audiobus forum's that's currently working on that)











Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/20/18 05:45 PM

Originally Posted By: mobi
Originally Posted By: AnotherScott

KeyStage seems more flexible, but more complex.

Keystage it's not complex , just took me 10 min to figure out everything,

Even if you don't find it at all complex, you wouldn't agree that iMidiPatchbay is still simpler? I think KeyStage has a little more requirement that you actually go through tutorials or help screens. Like, you don't get anywhere until you figure out you have to double-tap on the screen to do anything, which is something you're unlikely to divine by yourself. And since I saw the video but didn't memorize it all, I've gotten a little stuck in my minimal playing with it,

Good that it also supports charts, I didn't realize that right away. So all three do.

Originally Posted By: mobi
Keystage , most flexible if your goal it's having everything inside you ipad.

As opposed to, what, mixing internal iPad sounds with sounds from your keyboards?
Posted By: Roland_Guy

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/21/18 03:13 AM

Audio Bus just got a midi learn update that’s pretty neat. Another one to add to the Live iPad rig list.
Posted By: samuelblupowitz

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 01/07/19 03:42 PM

Just bumping this thread up. Now that I'm integrating iOS into my rig to use my Seaboard, I'm trying to scout out the best option to organize my virtual instruments and navigate through patches quickly (with appropriate volume and octave shifts mapped to each), plus integrate charts/sheet music when necessary. Trying to keep it as simple as possible, but give myself room to grow.

Keystage, Camelot, and iMIDIpatchbay seem to be the three best options. Seems like a lot of feature overlap with some give-and-take as far as customization/ease of use. Camelot is the easiest on the eyes of the three, and seems very versatile, but Keystage seems to have a lot of options to customize the default display for each scene (an XY pad for realtime modulation on the verse, then a chord chart for the chorus, for instance). I haven't seen that demoed in the other apps.

There are fewer comparisons and tutorials online than I expected, so it's nice to have the forum discussions to check in on!
Posted By: drawback

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 01/08/19 11:32 AM

Originally Posted By: samuelblupowitz
Just bumping this thread up. Now that I'm integrating iOS into my rig to use my Seaboard, I'm trying to scout out the best option to organize my virtual instruments and navigate through patches quickly (with appropriate volume and octave shifts mapped to each), plus integrate charts/sheet music when necessary. Trying to keep it as simple as possible, but give myself room to grow.

Keystage, Camelot, and iMIDIpatchbay seem to be the three best options. Seems like a lot of feature overlap with some give-and-take as far as customization/ease of use. Camelot is the easiest on the eyes of the three, and seems very versatile, but Keystage seems to have a lot of options to customize the default display for each scene (an XY pad for realtime modulation on the verse, then a chord chart for the chorus, for instance). I haven't seen that demoed in the other apps.

There are fewer comparisons and tutorials online than I expected, so it's nice to have the forum discussions to check in on!


Bumping to see if there’s any more real world discussion on these three options. For me, if they all do similar work, it appears CP wins for quick graphic task recognition, IMPB for resource sparing. I can’t get into visual Windows-esque clunkiness so KS is a no-go.
Posted By: samuelblupowitz

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 01/08/19 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: mobi
Keystage it's not complex , just took me 10 min to figure out everything,
displays charts, has a configurable real time XY control , you can create instruments presets in order to use em for different songs ( routings,prg ch, cc mappings,etc)

One of my concerns with KeyStage is that identifying what MIDI cc applies to which parameter on an instrument seems time consuming, since the only way I can see to load up parameter names in a preset is through a Cubase patch script. You can't really experiment with it in the trial version, so I'm not sure how tricky it is. How has your experience been on that front?
Posted By: agokturk

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 01/21/19 06:29 PM

Originally Posted By: samuelblupowitz
Originally Posted By: mobi
Keystage it's not complex , just took me 10 min to figure out everything,
displays charts, has a configurable real time XY control , you can create instruments presets in order to use em for different songs ( routings,prg ch, cc mappings,etc)

One of my concerns with KeyStage is that identifying what MIDI cc applies to which parameter on an instrument seems time consuming, since the only way I can see to load up parameter names in a preset is through a Cubase patch script. You can't really experiment with it in the trial version, so I'm not sure how tricky it is. How has your experience been on that front?


Well KeyStage just got an update, and now the lite version has a new mode in which you have access to all the features of the full version. It also has many new features:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNuNHjLI1_Q&t=284s
Posted By: Mighty Motif Max

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 01/25/19 06:52 PM

I’ll be using KeyStage Lite on my iPad with my Krome for 2nd keyboard duties at church this Sunday. Worked OK in rehearsal. I do get errors when trying to name and save created songs for some reason.

The new Set List function is great. Theoretically you could simply make a long song with multiple sections prior to the Set List addition.

Sunday’s list:




Posted By: drawback

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 02/07/19 11:16 AM

Just a bump to report I’ve finally picked up Camelot Pro iOS and am having an issue loading iFretless Bass which causes Camelot to immediately crash. Both apps’ support people have been quick to respond, so I assume this will be resolved soon.
Posted By: Synthaholic

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 05/16/19 12:24 AM

Just got this email:

Camelot 1.0.4. is finally available with an awesome price!
The Early Adopter Promo is valid until May 31 with a special offer price, 18.99 USD or 20.99 EUR for iOS version and 99 USD/EUR for Desktop version (macOS and Windows).

We have now an improved plugin scan manager and host, where you are allowed to select more than one folder for VST and VST3 plugins.

The Hardware instruments features are growing, with the possibility to assign a default custom controls set for each brand device. MIDI Remote Control has added Attachments Page Up & Page Down, Advance, Reverse.

Further than access Virus TI, we have added new instruments Smart maps:
Korg Triton Rack
Nord Lead 4R
Nord Lead A1R
Behringer X32
Behringer XAir
Yamaha MOXF
Yamaha Reface YC

FIXES

But that’s not all, Camelot 1.0.4. provides many fixes: overall stability and plugin scan.

We have also fixed Roland Integra 7 StudioSet preset name retrieval issues and Device ID numbering, Roland FA Device ID numbering and Yamaha Motif XF preset names retrieval issues.

There has been an improved Mute and Solo behavior and a Simplification of Multi Part MIDI Items.

As regards Global Settings we have improved Look & Feel and UI, reliability when connect and disconnect MIDI ports and Tempo Sync crash under some circumstances.

Hurry up, after May 31, Camelot will be 28.99 USD or 31.99 EUR for iOS version and 149 USD/EUR for Desktop version!
Posted By: Synthaholic

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 05/16/19 12:29 AM

I also received a response to a question to tech support:

As for audio and MIDI sequences support (and other features), they are planned with the addition of the "Audio" module. It will be released in a few months.
Posted By: drawback

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 05/16/19 02:44 AM

I was back and forth with Camelot service and counterparts from Ravenscroft and iFretless, did a lot of research on my own and got to the bottom of the problem which pointed to Camelot being unable to stabilize bit rate mismatches when loading various iOS AUv3, causing crashes.

Another problem with Camelot iOS is that it doesn’t do InterApp Audio, something they’ve said is coming, but isn’t documented in this update either.

Meanwhile, I found Kymatica AUM, which does everything I want it to do - and a whole lot more - with a beautiful, intuitive and stable GUI.

Looking back, Camelot seems clunky and problematic in comparison and I see no reason to even try this update.
Posted By: Rade Martinović

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/20/19 10:51 PM

Hello,

So sorry to resurrect old thread, but I'm fishing for some experiences with these few contenders for "Mainstage on an iPad" there are in the market. So far, it seems that AUM, Camelot and iMIDIPatchbay are possible candidates.

As I am (still) not using and of the iOS synths in my daily business, I am actually looking for a tool to send program change to my two MIDI capable synths. I would need something like setlists, and within each lists songs with sections, such are intro, verse, refrain and similar.

In the future, I would like to use some iOS arpeggiator to control one of the synths, but that is far off.

So, out of these three - AUM, Camelot and iMIDIPatchbay, what are your experiences?

Thanks!
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/21/19 12:47 AM

KeyStage should also be on your list.
Posted By: Mighty Motif Max

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/21/19 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Rade Martinović
Hello,

So sorry to resurrect old thread, but I'm fishing for some experiences with these few contenders for "Mainstage on an iPad" there are in the market. So far, it seems that AUM, Camelot and iMIDIPatchbay are possible candidates.

As I am (still) not using and of the iOS synths in my daily business, I am actually looking for a tool to send program change to my two MIDI capable synths. I would need something like setlists, and within each lists songs with sections, such are intro, verse, refrain and similar.

In the future, I would like to use some iOS arpeggiator to control one of the synths, but that is far off.

So, out of these three - AUM, Camelot and iMIDIPatchbay, what are your experiences?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by AnotherScott
KeyStage should also be on your list.


Definitely look at KeyStage. It does exactly what you want, even with the free lite version (which supports two keyboards). I’ve used it live twice with only one board, but have had no issues. Here are two screenshots from one gig:

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Posted By: Rade Martinović

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/23/19 04:43 PM

Hey guys! Thanks!

I like that there are lite versions of apps. It's too expensive to try out apps only to realize they are not fully according to your needs.
Posted By: tfort

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 11/23/19 05:27 PM

KeyStage’s price just dropped to $13 for Black Friday sales.
Posted By: Mighty Motif Max

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/01/19 02:48 AM

Just took the plunge. Snapped up Camelot Pro iOS yesterday. Haven't had a chance to mess with it yet, and am perfectly satisfied with KeyStage, but for $19.99, why not?
Posted By: EricBarker

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/01/19 04:06 AM

I have very high hopes for Camelot, both on iOS and Mac. Their snapshot workflow is pretty much exactly what I've built into my MainStage concerts by use of a homebuilt Max/MSP midi router. However, the only thing that prevents it from being ready for primetime (in my book) is the lack of insert effects. This is such an obvious omission that I'm pretty sure it's going to get addressed within the next 6 months or so. In the meantime, the few Camelot projects I've made use combo hosts like Plogue in order to load effects. Audio Modeling is a fantastic company. If I wasn't already 7 years into my MainStage projects, I would see this as a very serious contender. The moment they add effects, it will surpass MainStage in workflow design. I see a very bright future for this software.
Posted By: drawback

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/01/19 02:55 PM

Reading this thread again, I’ve checked out the latest version updates on the App Store and re-loaded Camelot for the third time. It certainly appears they’ve been working hard on improvements and streamlining. Will give it a try to see if those sample rate mismatches are stabilized. I guess IAA won’t be an issue going forward as Apple’s dropping it in the near future anyway (was hoping to eventually mix n match AUV3 apps with Module).
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/01/19 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by EricBarker
I have very high hopes for Camelot, both on iOS and Mac. Their snapshot workflow is pretty much exactly what I've built into my MainStage concerts by use of a homebuilt Max/MSP midi router.

On Mac, one of the big plusses people mention about Gig Performer is more efficient CPU usage. Do you have any idea how Camelot Pro would compare in this respect?
Posted By: Dr Mike Metlay

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 12/02/19 08:15 PM

AUM is not really a contender on this list, nor is apeMatrix. They're much more for music production than setlist-based live performance, and they lack a lot of the convenience features you'd find in KeyStage or Camelot Pro.
Posted By: midinut

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 01/12/20 06:09 AM

Bringing this thread back to the forefront ...

I just picked up a Yamaha MODX7 and received a 40% discount for the full Mac/PC version (normally $149). The iOS version for the iPad is $28.95.
For those of you who may have played with this (I'm perusing YouTube videos and tutorials as I write this) what are the differences between the iOS version
and the full Mac/PC versions? It seems that the iOS verison only plays with AUv3 plugins, whereas the Mac/PC version runs any VST or AU.
I've been using MainStage for several years and am happy with that, but wonder if there are things that Camelot Pro has that MainStage doesn't. Thanks in advance!
Posted By: Synthaholic

Re: Camelot Pro - Releases 12 December: (The Mainstage for iOS?) - 01/13/20 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by midinut

I just picked up a Yamaha MODX7

If there’s already a thread on the MODX7 please add to it with your impressions. I’m especially interested in the keybed quality. Thanks.
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