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Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread

Posted By: Geoff Grace

Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/11/18 08:19 PM

Now that the NBA 2017-2018 season is in the books, let's take a look at the season ahead:

Summer of LeBron: Everything to know for Decision 3.0

Mo Bamba's growing case as the best player in this draft

Pacers' Thaddeus Young seriously considering free agency, sources say

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/11/18 08:19 PM

Oh, and let's not forget that Phoenix has the top draft pick! cool



GO SUNS!!! thu

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: RABid

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/12/18 11:04 AM

Rumor is that Towns wants out of Minnesota. Would be interesting to see him and Lebron together somewhere.
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/21/18 06:28 PM

The reconfiguration of NBA lineups gets started in earnest tonight:

The 2018 NBA draft: 7:00 PM EDT | 4:00 PM PDT

Will there be any star trades as teams jockey for position?

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/21/18 09:07 PM

And so it begins...

Star center Deandre Ayton selected first overall by Suns

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/22/18 03:21 AM

I hope it works out for you, Geoff.
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/22/18 03:26 AM

And one of my first posts in this thread will be this ridiculous scenario: Lakers landing the big three of Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, and that other guy. Now, a lot of you know that I'm not a huge Lebron fan, but regardless, it will be interesting to see who, if anyone, they get.

How the Lakers can land Bronbron, Kawhi, and Paul George
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/22/18 04:05 PM

Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
I hope it works out for you, Geoff.

Thanks, Ken.

Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
And one of my first posts in this thread will be this ridiculous scenario: Lakers landing the big three of Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, and that other guy. Now, a lot of you know that I'm not a huge Lebron fan, but regardless, it will be interesting to see who, if anyone, they get.

How the Lakers can land Bronbron, Kawhi, and Paul George

A lot of pundits seem to be betting on that outcome, and it would be nice for the Lakers to be contenders again. It sure looks like it would take another super team—at or above the level of the Rockets—to topple Golden State.

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/22/18 04:16 PM

Lebron going to any Western Conference team (other than GS, and that ain't happenin') will raise the possibility of not seeing him in the Finals for the the first time in, well, forever. I don't really think the big 3 they're talking about trying to assemble in LA necessarily beats the Warriors as they are presently constituted.....
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/23/18 01:09 AM

Originally Posted By: area51recording
Lebron going to any Western Conference team (other than GS, and that ain't happenin') will raise the possibility of not seeing him in the Finals for the the first time in, well, forever. I don't really think the big 3 they're talking about trying to assemble in LA necessarily beats the Warriors as they are presently constituted.....


I keep hearing rumors about how Bronbron has already been making specific arrangements with the entertainment industry that clearly indicates that he is coming, that he intends on putting down roots in Los Angeles.

But then I think about what your point and how he would need to go through Houston and GS to do so, no small feat, and I really don't know.

But I think free agency is July 1st, right? Not far from now. This will be fascinating.

As a Lakers fan, I think it would be more fun for them to battle Bronbron and defeat whatever team he's on soundly than it would be to have him join up.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/23/18 08:22 AM

All I can do is sit back and snax
Posted By: antimatter

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/01/18 09:16 PM

facepalm
Posted By: bennyray

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/01/18 09:25 PM

Lebron is a LAKER 4 year 154 million deal not bad.
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/01/18 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: bennyray
Lebron is a LAKER 4 year 154 million deal not bad.


Wow. Big news.

Now the rest of the free agency / trade dominoes can fall.

The next cliffhangers have us holding our collective breaths: What will happen to Lonzo Ball and his two brothers?
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/01/18 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: timwat
The next cliffhangers have us holding our collective breaths: What will happen to Lonzo Ball and his two brothers?
laugh and their dad! roll

Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/01/18 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
laugh and their dad! he who shall not be named roll


Fixed.
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/01/18 10:33 PM

Originally Posted By: bennyray
Lebron is a LAKER 4 year 154 million deal not bad.

Link:

LeBron James agrees to 4-year, $154M deal with Los Angeles Lakers

The fourth year is reportedly a player option.

Well, at least we know for certain now that next year's NBA Finals will not be yet another LeBron/Warriors rematch. It also seems very likely that the Lakers will at least make the playoffs.

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: steadyb

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/01/18 10:57 PM


As I was saying... Go Lakers!!!
Posted By: steadyb

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/01/18 10:57 PM

grin
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/01/18 11:57 PM

Originally Posted By: steadyb

As I was saying... Go Lakers!!!

thu

Good to see you here, steadyb. cool

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 01:22 AM

So what's the next domino? Leonard? the ESPN guys were making noise like that was going to be hard for the Lakes to pull off. Bron Bron is going to need some help in LA. Also, I wonder how long Ball's stay in LA will be now. I can't imagine Lebron putting up with dear old dad's static for very long before Lonzo gets shown the door.....
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 01:40 AM

I think it's pretty clear that Kawhi Leonard will be a Laker once his contract expires a year from now, but it'll be tough—although not impossible—for LA to extract him from San Antonio in the meantime. As for Lonzo Ball, I think he'll remain on the team, for now.

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 06:17 AM

Sources: Lance Stephenson, JaVale McGee to join Lakers on one-year deals

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 12:15 PM

I suppose that's one way to keep Lance from blowing in LeBron's ear... grin

dB
Posted By: ProfD

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 02:44 PM

So, the Lakers will become the Cavaliers of the Western conference. laugh

Well, not exactly because the Lakers will still have a hard time getting past Golden State, Houston, San Antonio and probably OKC.

Obviously, this is great move in terms of reinvigorating the Lakers fanbase and filling up the Staples Center.

Otherwise, it seems like a great golden parachute for LBJ to set up shop in Cali and ride off into the Hollywood sunset to further his post-basketball ambitions. cool
Posted By: davedoerfler

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: ProfD

this is great move in terms of reinvigorating the Lakers fanbase and filling up the Staples Center.


for the 1%ers laugh

I read tickets prices started skyrocketing immediately after "the announcement".
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 02:58 PM

Originally Posted By: ProfD
So, the Lakers will become the Cavaliers of the Western conference. laugh

Well, not exactly because the Lakers will still have a hard time getting past Golden State, Houston, San Antonio and probably OKC.

Obviously, this is great move in terms of reinvigorating the Lakers fanbase and filling up the Staples Center.

Otherwise, it seems like a great golden parachute for LBJ to set up shop in Cali and ride off into the Hollywood sunset to further his post-basketball ambitions. cool


Golden State, Houston, sure, probably San Antonio.....OKC is one mega over rated team right now, in my opinion. A one man gang isn't beating any great TEAM in a 7 game series, I don't care how good that one man may be.....Bron Bron just proved that, didn't he?
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
I suppose that's one way to keep Lance from blowing in LeBron's ear... grin

dB


Maybe not during scrimmages! grin
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 03:40 PM

Originally Posted By: ProfD
So, the Lakers will become the Cavaliers of the Western conference. laugh

Well, not exactly because the Lakers will still have a hard time getting past Golden State, Houston, San Antonio and probably OKC.

Obviously, this is great move in terms of reinvigorating the Lakers fanbase and filling up the Staples Center.

Otherwise, it seems like a great golden parachute for LBJ to set up shop in Cali and ride off into the Hollywood sunset to further his post-basketball ambitions. cool


It is that.

The Lakers are not going to win a championship as presently constituted. They are not getting past Houston or Golden State, but might be able to get past San Antonio or OKC.

They're relevant again after sucking for ages.

As I said above, I'd rather be beating Bronbron, but I'm glad that the Lakers are playoff-bound and relevant.
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 06:57 PM

Rajon Rondo is now a Laker as well.

Could this portend Lavar...umm, I'm sorry- I mean Lonzo Ball's exit? idk

They did have to renouce Julius Randle to get Rondo - not sure that was a good move. facepalm

dB
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 07:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Rajon Rondo is now a Laker as well.

Could this portend Lavar...umm, I'm sorry- I mean Lonzo Ball's exit? idk

They did have to renouce Julius Randle to get Rondo - not sure that was a good move. facepalm

dB


What sucks for Lonzo is that no matter where he gets dealt, his dad's loudmouth BS follows him like an albatross round his neck. If the kid could get some help with his mechanics shooting wise he could be a really good NBA player, but the really unfair part for him is all the baggage having Daddio around brings to the table.....
Posted By: RABid

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 07:29 PM

Could this mean the return of SteadyB to the forum?
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 08:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Rajon Rondo is now a Laker as well.

Could this portend Lavar...umm, I'm sorry- I mean Lonzo Ball's exit? idk

They did have to renouce Julius Randle to get Rondo - not sure that was a good move. facepalm

Link:

Sources: Lakers renounce Pelicans-bound Julius Randle, agree to deal with Rajon Rondo

More links:

Giant LeBron banner set for removal following departure for Lakers

Kobe Bryant on LeBron James' arrival in L.A.: 'Welcome to the family'

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 09:33 PM

On another topic, the Phoenix Suns are now 50 years old. I remember being very excited about the new franchise in 1968 and rooting for star player Connie Hawkins. Less than a decade later, I was lucky enough to attend the NBA Finals game in which the Suns beat the Celtics in overtime.

Unfortunately, my favorite NBA team has yet to win a championship; but they've at least had three great eras of top-level contenders. Now finally, they appear to be on their way back up after a severe drought.

Hoping for even better years ahead... cool



Best,

Geoff
Posted By: wd8dky

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 10:26 PM

I'll probably get shredded for this, but I am Lebron'd out.

I can't wait to see LaVar and Lebron in their first interview together. Actually, never mind. I take that back... smile
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 10:47 PM

Originally Posted By: wd8dky
I'll probably get shredded for this, but I am Lebron'd out.

I can't wait to see LaVar and Lebron in their first interview together. Actually, never mind. I take that back... smile

I can't LeBron understand LeBron why you're LeBron, LeBron, LeBron "Lebron'd out."

Is LeBron a LeBron popular LeBron, LeBron topic LeBron in Chicago LeBron?

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 10:50 PM

Dubs sign Boogie.
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/02/18 11:43 PM

Originally Posted By: timwat
Dubs sign Boogie.

Now that's just nuts. HeadPop

dB
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/03/18 03:00 AM

The Lakers seem to be collecting every obnoxious player. Bronbron, Lance Stevenson, and now Rajon Rondo. Why don't they get Steven Adams and just be done with it?

Add Draymond Green, woo Dwight Howard back, have LaVar flap his gums more, and we will really have something annoying. grin
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/03/18 03:47 AM

Draymond may be obnoxious to some, but he's OUR obnoxious.

Dubs fans happy to have him. Now Draymond and Boogie. When's the season start?
Posted By: RABid

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/03/18 10:36 AM

Boogie is not exactly new to GS. Three of the players played with him on the Olympic team and know exactly what they are getting.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/03/18 04:49 PM

DeMarcus Cousins: 'I prepared myself for this' in free agency

Quote:
It was 5 a.m. Pacific time on Monday morning and nearly 90 degrees Fahrenheit. And a wide-awake Cousins was standing on the balcony of his off-season home alone.

“I was shocked. I didn’t believe it. It was a rough, pretty emotional night,” Cousins told The Undefeated in a phone interview on Monday night.

Just before the sun peeked in on another sweltering Vegas day, Cousins called his long-time agent Jarin Akana with a shocking plan. How about signing the mid-level exception with an elite team? How about giving the reigning NBA champion Golden State Warriors a call, despite the fact they already had four All-Stars, to see if they were interested?

“I was f—– up,” Cousins said. “I said to Jarin, ‘Let’s make a call.’ He was shocked. It was very insulting to not receive an offer. But I understand. I prepared myself for this.”

So around 8 a.m., Cousins said he called Warriors general manager Bob Myers. This is not a misprint. Myers cannot talk about free agents until they can sign with teams on Friday. But when Myers can speak, boy does he have a story to tell.


shocked
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/03/18 04:50 PM

GSW is just stupid now. Sigh.
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/03/18 11:14 PM

Wait - the Lakers passed on Boogie? At the same price GSW paid????

facepalm roll

dB
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/04/18 12:38 AM

Originally Posted By: timwat
Draymond may be obnoxious to some, but he's OUR obnoxious.

Dubs fans happy to have him. Now Draymond and Boogie. When's the season start?


I actually like the guy, but he can be really supremely annoying.

I'm assuming everyone in WarriorLand is rejoicing at Boogie coming, despite the injury and him sometimes being a little "difficult"? He'll probably fit in pretty well despite that, I think, since he knows some of them, can score and pass, shoot threes...
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/04/18 12:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Wait - the Lakers passed on Boogie? At the same price GSW paid????

facepalm roll

dB


I'm not sure what the Lakers are doing. At that price, you take a chance, right?
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/04/18 01:27 AM

Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
I'm not sure what the Lakers are doing. At that price, you take a chance, right?

One would think...if for no other reason than to keep him off GSW. idk

dB
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/04/18 03:03 AM

Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
Originally Posted By: timwat
Draymond may be obnoxious to some, but he's OUR obnoxious.

Dubs fans happy to have him. Now Draymond and Boogie. When's the season start?


I actually like the guy, but he can be really supremely annoying.

I'm assuming everyone in WarriorLand is rejoicing at Boogie coming, despite the injury and him sometimes being a little "difficult"? He'll probably fit in pretty well despite that, I think, since he knows some of them, can score and pass, shoot threes...


Well, remember that dubs fans are VERY aware of Boogie's history up the road w the Sacramento Kings, where he essentially ran roughshod over everyone and everything, bullying his way in every decision and preference. There are still a lot of Sac folks how despise him.

So dubs fans like me are happy for the potential, but well aware we have two unanswered questions looming:

1) what % of the old Boogie returns to the court after a serious Achilles injury, and
2) what will be the response of Kerr and the incumbent all stars when Boogie inevitably gets pushy and bullying again.

Will he learn to get with the system, the fast, quick-pass, beautiful game system (which is NOT his historical game), and how will the team help him to embrace his new role as a non-essential cog in an already well-oiled, high performing basketball machine?

Don't know, but it will be interesting to watch as it unfolds.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/04/18 10:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Wait - the Lakers passed on Boogie? At the same price GSW paid????

facepalm roll
That's interesting because the article I posted made it seem like Boogie called GSW first when he realized no one was calling him. I guess if he called LAL first, he might have left that part out since they turned him down, if that's the case.
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/04/18 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: timwat
Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
Originally Posted By: timwat
Draymond may be obnoxious to some, but he's OUR obnoxious.

Dubs fans happy to have him. Now Draymond and Boogie. When's the season start?


I actually like the guy, but he can be really supremely annoying.

I'm assuming everyone in WarriorLand is rejoicing at Boogie coming, despite the injury and him sometimes being a little "difficult"? He'll probably fit in pretty well despite that, I think, since he knows some of them, can score and pass, shoot threes...


Well, remember that dubs fans are VERY aware of Boogie's history up the road w the Sacramento Kings, where he essentially ran roughshod over everyone and everything, bullying his way in every decision and preference. There are still a lot of Sac folks how despise him.

So dubs fans like me are happy for the potential, but well aware we have two unanswered questions looming:

1) what % of the old Boogie returns to the court after a serious Achilles injury, and
2) what will be the response of Kerr and the incumbent all stars when Boogie inevitably gets pushy and bullying again.

Will he learn to get with the system, the fast, quick-pass, beautiful game system (which is NOT his historical game), and how will the team help him to embrace his new role as a non-essential cog in an already well-oiled, high performing basketball machine?

Don't know, but it will be interesting to watch as it unfolds.


That would be my concern, all of those things.

That trade seemed to come out of nowhere, at least for me. Didn't see that coming at all.

He will definitely need to buy into the system or he is going to get some short playing minutes.
Posted By: RABid

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/04/18 04:29 PM

I don't think Boogie will have any trouble buying into the system and playing 2nd to the GS stars. Like I said, he did it while on the Olympic team without issue. And GS has one advantage that other teams don't. They could afford to wait for him to heal. No rushing back. And he knows that this year is an investment. The better he does on and off of the court, the bigger the contract he will get next year. He is playing for the future.
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/05/18 04:20 PM



Report: Don't Worry, Bronbron is Totally Cool With The Lakers Signing All Those Weirdos

"What Johnson pitched to James was a team stocked with tough-minded playmakers like Stephenson and Rondo who could free up James to finish in the lanes and from the post, rather than having to create the lion’s share of the offense himself. Rondo and Stephenson are also defensively versatile as their length enables them to be effective defenders in switches. That also follows with the talents of the 6-foot-6 Ball, who showed the ability to be an elite rebounder and defender for a guard in his rookie year.

This makes some sense. LeBron has completely exhausted himself carrying the Cavaliers’ offense over the past few seasons, and if he’s hoping for the final stage of his career to be a productive one he’s going to need to find a way to increase the number of low-impact possessions he plays. Having Rondo and Lonzo Ball around should allow him to spend plenty of time off the ball, and Windhorst theorizes that LeBron will spend much more time in the post during this upcoming season, an adjustment that both Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant made when trying to extend their careers.

That all sounds nice in theory, but it seems unlikely that everything is going to go so smoothly in practice. How many times will LeBron have to kick it out from the post only to see Ball brick another jumper, or spend an entire possession in the corner while Stephenson maniacally dribbles the texture off the ball, before he reverts back to the old way of doing things? More than anything else, this upcoming season could be a test of LeBron’s patience."
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/05/18 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: RABid
I don't think Boogie will have any trouble buying into the system and playing 2nd to the GS stars. Like I said, he did it while on the Olympic team without issue. And GS has one advantage that other teams don't. They could afford to wait for him to heal. No rushing back. And he knows that this year is an investment. The better he does on and off of the court, the bigger the contract he will get next year. He is playing for the future.


Cool for GS. Frightening for everyone else.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/17/18 02:18 PM

Supposedly the Rockets are in the lead for Melo. Supposedly D'Antoni has spoken to him and all that stuff that went down when both were in NY is water under the bridge. Supposedly CP3 really wants him. Supposedly CP3's style of ball handling with work well with Melo's style of play. Supposedly Ennis is a good pickup after losing Ariza andMbah a Moute.

Supposedly.
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/17/18 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Supposedly the Rockets are in the lead for Melo. Supposedly D'Antoni has spoken to him and all that stuff that went down when both were in NY is water under the bridge. Supposedly CP3 really wants him. Supposedly CP3's style of ball handling with work well with Melo's style of play. Supposedly Ennis is a good pickup after losing Ariza andMbah a Moute.

Supposedly.


I'll NEVER understand the fascination with acquiring Melo. Even in his prime the guy was the worst ball stopper in the league, and he's old now. No defense, and the next stop for the ball after he touches it is the rim. One of the most over rated players in the NBA, in my opinion...
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/17/18 02:55 PM

I didn't follow Anthony much when he was the Nugget's guy - 04 to 10 - but during his prime he was a formidable offensive weapon.

Defense? He drinks from the same cup as Harden.

Or as George Karl said, "I want as much effort on defense -- maybe more -- as on offense. That was never going to happen with Melo, whose amazing ability to score with the ball made him a star but didn't make him a winner. Which I pointed out to him. Which he didn't like."
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/17/18 03:42 PM

Originally Posted By: timwat
Or as George Karl said, "I want as much effort on defense -- maybe more -- as on offense. That was never going to happen with Melo, whose amazing ability to score with the ball made him a star but didn't make him a winner. Which I pointed out to him. Which he didn't like."
roll

I don't think anyone here is expecting anything from him on D.

I disagree with your assessment of Harden's D. While it can come and go, he has gotten better with it lately. It's probably WAY better than Melo's! grin

Originally Posted By: area51recording
I'll NEVER understand the fascination with acquiring Melo. Even in his prime the guy was the worst ball stopper in the league, and he's old now. No defense, and the next stop for the ball after he touches it is the rim. One of the most over rated players in the NBA, in my opinion...
I'm not jumping up and down about getting him, either. But maybe maybe maybe he can be a decent piece with all the other talent the Rockets have. Maybe. As long as they keep Capela...
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/18/18 01:00 PM

DeMar for Kawhi...

...and neither of them are happy about it. idk

dB
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/18/18 01:11 PM

Damn. Masai going all in for this year.
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/18/18 03:21 PM

Lakers are especially psyched. Kawhi is a free agent next year...and if he doesn't like Toronto... idk

dB
Posted By: Sven Golly

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/18/18 03:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
DeMar for Kawhi...

...and neither of them are happy about it. idk

dB


Most of the Raptors fans share that unhappiness. frown

I don't know enough about the game or Leonard (beyond the headlines) to have a valid opinion, but my FB is blowing up with as much anger as Canadians seemingly can generate. wink
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/18/18 04:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Most of the Raptors fans share that unhappiness. frown

I don't know enough about the game or Leonard (beyond the headlines) to have a valid opinion, but my FB is blowing up with as much anger as Canadians seemingly can generate. wink

Among other things, Lowry and DeRozan are friends and like playing together.

dB
Posted By: Sven Golly

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/18/18 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Most of the Raptors fans share that unhappiness. frown

I don't know enough about the game or Leonard (beyond the headlines) to have a valid opinion, but my FB is blowing up with as much anger as Canadians seemingly can generate. wink

Among other things, Lowry and DeRozan are friends and like playing together.

dB


That I knew... just don't really follow the game outside the Raptors highlights. Frankly, not seeing Kyle and DeMar in the post-game press conferences is gonna be sad. frown
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/18/18 11:21 PM

I saw someone post on FB that they were happy the Raptors were losing the "dead weight" that was DeRozan and even if Leonard splits after the season, they will be rebuilding with a good group. idk

I do know that we're big fans of Lowry after his stint in Houston and am glad to see how much better he has become.
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/19/18 07:56 PM

Thunder getting Dennis Schroder as part of Carmelo Anthony deal; Mike Muscala to 76ers

According to ESPN's sources, Carmelo is going to the Atlanta Hawks, where he'll be waived and become a free agent.

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: RABid

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 07/19/18 08:39 PM

OK should have traded Melo when they had a chance. Every team that has traded Melo has improved.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 12:29 PM

It's official.



But I thought this column put it best.

Quote:
Is he willing to sacrifice himself for the Rockets?

Is he willing, for the first time in his underwhelming 15-year career, to fully recognize his limitations and give in to the greater good?



Anthony's words and demeanor during the Rockets' official rollout will mean something.

If he gets it entering Year 16, he'll say that he'll gladly come off Mike D'Antoni's bench if that is what's best for his new team. That all he wants to do at this point in his career is win his first title. That the Rockets already have a very good thing going and the last thing he wants to do -- after all the frustration and endless rumors in Denver, New York and OKC -- is screw it up.

Oklahoma City always felt forced and never was right. Melo recently acknowledged that fact – but his devotion to his own legacy didn't help the Thunder's cause. He also still sounded like it was all about him.

The Rockets don't do this if they don't believe it can work. There were assurances made on multiple sides. Paul can publicly and privately push Anthony. Harden has one more on-court ally after falling to the Warriors yet again.

The Rockets must back D'Antoni the entire way and can't be afraid to move on from Melo if this Morey experiment is failing.

Warriors, Warriors, Warriors. Surviving the West, then winning the first NBA title in this city since 1995. That's all this should ever be about.

The Rockets are too good to allow Melo to drag them down. After 65 wins and being up 3-2 in the Western Conference finals, they're still trying to be great.

If Anthony gets this right – and what a big "if" that is -- it'll be the best thing on the hardwood that's ever happened to one of the best pure scorers in NBA history.
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 12:57 PM

I hate to be negative, but I do not see the Melo thing working out at all.
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 01:00 PM

Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
I hate to be negative, but I do not see the Melo thing working out at all.

...for any team he's played on other than Syracuse. Especially recently.

dB
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 02:05 PM

If I have said it already in this thread, my apologies. But here's what I think.

I *hope* that Morey, D'Antoni, Harden, and Paul know what they're doing. They really seem to think they can make it work. I have my doubts, just like the rest of you guys. The pattern isn't good. They're the pros, I'm just a guy who watches the games and sometimes understands the analyses!

Melo will likely have to drop his ego and "give in to the greater good" as the column says. I don't know if he's capable of that.

At the very worst, I hope he doesn't distract the team if things don't work out and he rides the pine. They should do very well without him, hopefully even better with him.
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 02:23 PM

Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
I hate to be negative, but I do not see the Melo thing working out at all.


Again (I'm not looking back but I KNOW I must have posted this before) I just don't get the Melo thing. Like, at all. The guy is so one dimensional at this point. The Rockets have plenty of scoring firepower, and now you add a guy who plays ZERO defense, is a epic ball stopper, and eschews coming off the bench. What could possibly go wrong? You put together a team like they have (and honestly, their big problem is that right now GS is looking like one of those "teams for the ages" squads) and MELO is your missing chess piece? When they DO play Curry and Co. whomever Melo is charged with guarding is going to light his butt on fire.....
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Melo will likely have to drop his ego and "give in to the greater good" as the column says. I don't know if he's capable of that.

roll

dB
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Melo will likely have to drop his ego and "give in to the greater good" as the column says. I don't know if he's capable of that.

roll
I am an optimist and like to think that people are capable of maturing. Maybe if he truly realizes that this is his last shot to go all the way, he'll do what D'Antoni, Harden, and CP3 tell him is best.

I am not holding my breath. I am hoping this season is as fun as the last one was. idk

[I mean, really. What do you expect me to do? The Rockets are my favorite team so I gotta go with it. grin As long as I don't hate it as much as the T-Mac era, I'll be okay. I wish T-Mac back then was as mature as he seems to be now.]
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 04:18 PM

Mike D’Antoni says Carmelo Anthony is willing to come off bench

Quote:
Mike D'Antoni understands the doubts, the questions the Rockets' addition of 10-time All-Star Carmelo Anthony on Monday raised with many. He had questions, too. But to the Rockets' coach, they have been answered.

Anthony was a free agent when he made his decision to join the Rockets official, signing his one-year, $2.4 million contract Monday. He chose to accept the kind of role he could find with the Rockets, largely playing as a power forward, possibly coming off the bench, certainly in support of other stars rather as the No. 1 option as he had been through most of his career.

His willingness to not just accept, but to choose his place in the Rockets' mix was all D'Antoni needed to hear.

"I understand some of the naysayers," D'Antoni said. "I understand the question marks going into it. I would be worried about it if there were no conversations. But those have been answered sufficiently. Now, we'll have to adjust. I'll have to adjust a few things to get the best out of Melo and he'll have to adjust his game to play with us the best he can. That's normal things it took Chris (Paul) and James (Harden) about an hour and half to get solved.

"I go back to the Olympic experience and they want to play for the team, the name on the front of the jersey instead of the name on the back. That makes it easy, when you have talented players. You can't make something out of nothing. We can make something out of something. These guys got something."



"We'll see what performs best. What makes the best rotation and how to get the best out of them. Whether he starts or doesn't start, and he said it, is a moot point. We'll make that decision as we go forward. Maybe he starts the game, maybe he doesn't.

"We had to make sure that everybody's on the same page and he definitely, definitely is. We all have the same vision and want to get this thing done and beat probably the best team in NBA history. We can't afford a misstep or take things for granted and say 'we'll work things out.' When we talked about his vision and our vision and it matched up."

With that," D'Antoni called adding Anthony "a no-brainer." The questions might have been valid, but more than a month before training camp will begin, D'Antoni considered them answered.
[emphasis mine]
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 08:08 PM

Originally Posted By: area51recording
Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
I hate to be negative, but I do not see the Melo thing working out at all.


Again (I'm not looking back but I KNOW I must have posted this before) I just don't get the Melo thing. Like, at all. The guy is so one dimensional at this point. The Rockets have plenty of scoring firepower, and now you add a guy who plays ZERO defense, is a epic ball stopper, and eschews coming off the bench. What could possibly go wrong? You put together a team like they have (and honestly, their big problem is that right now GS is looking like one of those "teams for the ages" squads) and MELO is your missing chess piece? When they DO play Curry and Co. whomever Melo is charged with guarding is going to light his butt on fire.....


They lost Trevor Ariza, so they really could have replaced him with someone who is a great perimeter defender. Instead, they get Melo.

Melo could score, once upon a time, but he is slowing down with that as well. In the NBA, the guy has been a meathead and perennial ball stopper, and the Rockets seem like a more cerebral share-the-ball play-good-defense get-up-and-down-=the-court sort of team. I really don't get it at all.

Regardless, the upcoming season should be interesting. The Rockets will be interesting, the Lakers will be interesting (I don't know that they'll be good, but they'll be interesting grin ), and who fills the void in the East (Celtics, most likely) will be interesting.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
They lost Trevor Ariza, so they really could have replaced him with someone who is a great perimeter defender. Instead, they get Melo.
Morey is pretty good at finding players other teams overlook. James Ennis could be an example of that.
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/14/18 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
They lost Trevor Ariza, so they really could have replaced him with someone who is a great perimeter defender. Instead, they get Melo.
Morey is pretty good at finding players other teams overlook. James Ennis could be an example of that.


Cool.

I hope on the Lakers' end, they are good at getting something going too. One sports journalist described the new-look Lakers as "The Island of Misfit Toys". It is an odd combination. A passionate combination, but an odd one, with them seemingly trying to collect every annoying player in the NBA.

They overlooked Steven Adams from OKC. grin
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/15/18 09:02 AM

Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
A passionate combination, but an odd one, with them seemingly trying to collect every annoying player in the NBA.

They overlooked Steven Adams from OKC. grin
roll

It will be interesting to see what the Lakers can do. I'm guessing they're thinking that with Lebron leading, everything/everyone else will line up.
Posted By: ProfD

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/15/18 11:51 AM

Melo is on a 1-year deal for a reason. wink

That will either give him an incentive to play with a championship caliber team or pad his retirement account. laugh cool
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 08/28/18 07:27 PM

Spurs' Manu Ginobili announces retirement after 16 seasons

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 09/02/18 07:59 PM

Rockets unload Ryan Anderson in four player trade with Phoenix.

Quote:
Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey announced today that the team has traded forward Ryan Anderson and guard De’Anthony Melton to Phoenix in exchange for forward Marquese Chriss and guard Brandon Knight.

Anderson always seemed to slump towards the end of the season and the playoffs, making himself useless and not worth his contract. Hopefully Knight will be healthy and useful after slumping hard for the Suns. But in the end, I think the big thing here is money. Anderson was a big chunk for the Rockets and they might be able to unload either or both of these guys by Oct 31 if they don't work out.

Meanwhile, Geoff, you get Ariza and Anderson! Good luck.
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 09/02/18 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Meanwhile, Geoff, you get Ariza and Anderson! Good luck.

Unfortunately, I don't have room for them at my place. Maybe the Suns can put them up.

But seriously, I don't know what to make of the trade. Each player has an upside and downside. I'm hoping for the best, but guessing mediocrity with prevail.

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 09/03/18 10:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Meanwhile, Geoff, you get Ariza and Anderson! Good luck.

Unfortunately, I don't have room for them at my place
grin
Quote:
But seriously, I don't know what to make of the trade. Each player has an upside and downside. I'm hoping for the best, but guessing mediocrity with prevail.
I don't know where the Suns are right now and what they're up to. It's too bad to see them floundering around in the west like they have been.
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 10/18/18 07:35 PM

I haven't been able to say this often lately, but Phoenix is tied for first place: 1-0 baby!!! cool wink grin



GO SUNS!!! thu

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 10/30/18 11:30 PM

The Lakers are about 2-5, I think, and reporters are already asking Lebron how much more patience he has. It took almost halfway through the season for his superstar teams to begin gelling, and they're asking him about his Island of Misfit Toys, a weird combination of people like Javale McGee, Lance Stephenson, and Rajon Rondo along with a bunch of 20 year olds, how much more patience he'll have.
Posted By: ProfD

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 10/31/18 10:49 AM

Originally Posted By: KenElevenShadows
The Lakers are about 2-5, I think, and reporters are already asking Lebron how much more patience he has. It took almost halfway through the season for his superstar teams to begin gelling, and they're asking him about his Island of Misfit Toys, a weird combination of people like Javale McGee, Lance Stephenson, and Rajon Rondo along with a bunch of 20 year olds, how much more patience he'll have.


The sad reality of an instant gratification society. The Lakers should be 49-0 right now. laugh

Of course, the media has a job to do in asking the questions and being a superstar, LBJ brings a certain amount of press baggage with him. cool
Posted By: p19978

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 10/31/18 11:50 AM

Looks like Houston is playing out as people expected.

Hopefully they get healthy and get it turned around.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 10/31/18 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: p19978
Looks like Houston is playing out as people expected.

Hopefully they get healthy and get it turned around.
This has been painful. I've been wondering if they're experiencing the "Melo Curse," even though Melo himself isn't doing too badly. The rest of the team has been ice cold. To go from such a high-powered and high-scoring offense to this, well, it's bizarre. I could live with them needing to figure out the defense with all the changes, but when Eric Gordon can't hit a three to save his life, there's a creek and they're up it.
Posted By: Polychrest

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 10/31/18 02:22 PM

Raptors fans are already deeply in love with Kawhi Leonard. Even though he’s only played half a dozen games, they’re chanting “MVP, MVP” every time he goes to the free throw line. His game looks as good as anybody’s who’s ever played for Toronto. Kyle Lowry’s playing out of his mind to impress him. New stud, new coach, lots of good young talent....maybe, maybe, maybe this year will be special.
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 11/04/18 02:49 AM

Houston will probably pick it up. I don't know about the addition of Melo. I think that's a bit of a mistake, but maybe it works out.

The Raptors with Kawhi seems like a winner for sure.

So this is the thing that's got sports journalists in Los Angeles chattering now. Apparently Magic Johnson laid in to Luke Walton for their 2-5 start (they're now 3-5, I believe, because they just beat the Trailblazers). The press picked up on this and won't shut up about it even though Magic is not exactly warm and fuzzy, and has apparently had numerous discussions with Walton since the beginning of the season. However, since ESPN picked up on this, it's the subject of non-stop speculation.

Fueling this is Coach Lue being fired from the Cavaliers. Some are thinking that they might want to bring Lue aboard, especially since Walton was a Jim Buss/Mitch Kupchak hire before Magic/Pelinka took over.

However the Lakers do, it will not be a boring year. Between having odd personnel, which people have referred to as The Island of Misfit Toys, and all this other nonsense, it's not gonna be boring in Lakerland.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 11/04/18 12:20 PM

Apparently, the Chris Paul-led huddle in the second quarter of the Nets game is what woke them up and turned them around. It was a good game to watch. They were playing with the intensity they had before both on offense and defense. I didn't get to see the win over the Bulls yesterday, but I suspect it was more of the same plus having Harden back.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 11/13/18 05:03 PM

There are LOTS of rumors about the Melo experiment in Houston being over. He has been out with "an illness" for the last two games and didn't travel with the team for tonight's game in Denver.

There are also lots of articles saying the Rockets woes are not his fault, but OTOH, maybe he's so disruptive in the locker room or something they are. idk

I saw one article blaming the problems on what Morey did and who he let go during the offseason, but if anyone thinks that the poor performances of Harden and CP3 are because Ariza and LMAM are gone, they're crazy.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 11/15/18 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
It's official.

And now it's official. He's gone. He was a Rocket for 94 days, depending on how you count it exactly.
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 11/15/18 08:51 PM

...and now there are rumors about Kevin Durant and Draymond Green having issues. idk

dB
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 11/16/18 09:19 AM

Watching them play the Rockets last night, while they looked poor (I think the starters didn't hit a single three-pointer), there weren't any issues to note between them. At one point, when Green messed up, running back they were talking and Green tapped himself taking the blame. Things seemed normal to me in that regard. idk
Posted By: d / halfnote

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 11/17/18 01:49 PM

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Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 11/19/18 03:23 AM

I'm thinking the Green/Durant thing is not that big of a deal.

I knew the Melo thing wasn't going to work out. I don't know what the Rockets were thinking with that.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 12/13/18 02:05 PM

So, how about those Raptors, eh?

Blowout swing through Cali even with Kawhi sitting out.

And how about the non-call on Green dislocating JV's thumb? C'mon, man!
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 12/13/18 04:28 PM

I had no idea the Melo Curse would sit on the Rockets after they let him go. Or maybe it's because he's still officially with the team or whatever that situation is.

I can't tell if the Rockets are going to be awesome, terrible, or just blow a great lead to lose on any given night. What fun is that??? idk
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 12/13/18 05:20 PM

Well.....every team that lets Melo go seems to improve.....so there's THAT.....
Posted By: GregC

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 12/15/18 04:12 PM

totally F%%^&^ing funny:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/kings-hilar...-053135752.html
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 12/16/18 10:05 AM

Originally Posted By: area51recording
Well.....every team that lets Melo go seems to improve.....so there's THAT.....
We're still waiting for that to stick. The Rockets have been incredibly up and down this year. Last year, we were sure they were dominant. This year, we're sure they COULD be dominant, and sometimes they are, while sometimes they're inexplicable.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 12/25/18 10:22 AM

Just when the Rockets looked like they were hitting their stride, CP3 pulls a hamstring, again. facepalm So what do the Rockets do? They signed Austin Rivers. Yes, that Austin Rivers, who says he has no beef with Paul. I hope not. The Rockets need a PG for all those times CP3 needs a rest.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 01/10/19 10:37 AM

Austin Rivers has turned out to be a bit of a revelation, Brandon Knight is starting to find his rhythm, and James Harden is a lock to be the MVP.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 01/10/19 03:12 PM

I'm just impressed at how quickly he got up.

Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 01/11/19 09:37 AM

[knocks on wood]

Even when he gets injured, it doesn't last. The guy isn't close to fragile at all. He just gets back in there, almost every time.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 01/11/19 01:50 PM

The beard, it protecc him.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 02/26/19 05:26 PM

Okay so Brandon Knight is gone but the Rockets have Manimal (he prefers to be called that freak) aka Kenneth Faried, Shumpert, and every new player was a mid-season pickup while all the offseason acquisitions are gone, including Melo. Go figure.

It's hard to believe Faried was let go by the Nets, they hardly played him, and neither did Denver.

Manimal and Capela are playing together sometimes for a "big" lineup, which is fun since the Rockets have been so guard heavy of late.

The one thing that's killing me though is that last season spoiled me. I'm so disappointed when they lose. I do think that part of it is because they're clearly good enough to win every game or nearly that many.

Harden is now solidly second on the list of players with games scoring 30 or more points, behind Wilt Chamberlain in first and ahead of… Wilt Chamberlain in third! Chris Paul has climbed into the top ten of all time assist leaders, despite all those injuries. He's up there somewhere on steals as well.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/09/19 10:46 PM

Man, what's up with the Lakers? It's enough to take everyone's mind off of how bad the Knicks are.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/10/19 02:42 PM

Originally Posted By: MAJUSCULE
Man, what's up with the Lakers? It's enough to take everyone's mind off of how bad the Knicks are.
Yeah, they suck. Suckity suck suck.
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/10/19 02:48 PM

The Lakers are gearing up to join that hallowed group of teams across several sports that still are iconic even though they historically suck.....sometimes for decades.....think the Knicks, Dallas Cowboys, Notre Dame football....hard to believe Lebron was unable to lead them back to the promised land, all by his lonesome (not really)...
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/10/19 05:09 PM

A little OT but a really cool story about MJ's time in baseball.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26449...baseball-career
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/10/19 06:27 PM

Magic was too nice—and too preoccupied with the rest of his life—to be an effective president of basketball operations.

Farewells to giants:

Sources: Magic exit stuns LeBron; Pelinka to stay

About Last Night: D-Wade and Dirk honored in style

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: MikeT156

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/10/19 07:07 PM

Magic wasn't "having Fun". Losing isn't fun, and the decisions Magic had to make were made more difficult. Someone has to take the fall for a Franchise that continues to struggle. Lebron can't do it alone anymore, he's getting older. I wonder how much longer he's going to play, he certainly has more than enough $$$ and wear and tear on the body will make the decision for him if he doesn't do it first.


Mike T.
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/10/19 07:45 PM

I doubt LBJ will want to retire with a whimper; superstar egos want a year-long farewell tour a la Kobe, and someone who dubs themselves the GOAT will want an appropriate way to walkaway when that time comes.

How that squares with a difficult situation in need of a rebuild is anyone's guess...I think there are even odds this movie ends with LBJ on another team (gasp).

Magic walking...I thought legends didn't quit?
Posted By: Jazzmammal

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/11/19 04:24 AM

The Lakers suckity suck? With all those injuries? Realize the full first team consisting of LBJ, Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, McGee played a grand total of 20 games together due to injuries. When LBJ went down on Christmas day they were 4th in the west and 5th in league in defensive rating. You can't lose your entire high lottery pick roster plus the GOAT and expect anything good to happen.

Magic is a whole other thing. What a dick. I've loved the guy for years but man. He's an ego driven baby, it's all about him like some diva we all love to hate. Good grief he was the CEO of his own damn near billion dollar company. He didn't know or understand what it took to be VP of basketball operations? He's not having fun any more? Oh wahwahwahwah shut the F up...He couldn't man up and talk to Jeannie, Pelinka and LBJ before his disgraceful presser because he would start crying? Unbelievable. I can't speak for all Lakers fans but for me and some friends we have lost all respect for him. Remember him as a legendary player but that's it.

He was correct about one thing, that job is highly coveted by everybody in the league. They'll come up with a good replacement soon enough.

Bob
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/11/19 05:21 PM

I had high hopes for the 16-17 Lakers, with D'Angelo Russell, Jordan Clarkson, Brandon Ingram etc. They were young and inexperienced, but you could see the chemistry developing, homies having fun playing together.

I couldn't believe they traded Russell, and for what?

Imagine if they had Russell, Clarkson, Ingram and now with Kuzma and Ball, that would have been FIRE! I really believe they would have been able to build and grow together, and eventually challenge for the championship. Maybe even with Paul George there (did you see that 3-pt shot with 1.8 secs on the clock in the last game?)

But I guess we'll never know now. Meanwhile, Russell made the All-Star team and has taken the Nets to the playoffs.


edit:

I hope Bron with the Lakers isn't going to turn out like Jordan at the Wizards.
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/11/19 06:31 PM

I will never be a Lakers fan (SF Bay Area born and raised, Warriors faithful for 40 years), but Buss should throw her entire checkbook at Jerry West.
Posted By: Jazzmammal

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/12/19 03:20 AM

Originally Posted By: zephonic
I couldn't believe they traded Russell, and for what?

Imagine if they had Russell, Clarkson, Ingram and now with Kuzma and Ball, that would have been FIRE!


The Russel trade had to be done, it was the only way to get anybody to eat Mosgov's ridiculous 84 mil contract. Without that, there would be no cap space for LBJ. AND, it was the Nets who drafted Kuzma and included him in the trade along with Lopez. I really liked Russel too but that was a good trade for the Lakers overall. Got rid of Mozgov and picked up Kuz and Lopez. Now, there's an argument they should have kept Lopez but I sort of think the way McGee played this season him and Lopez is a wash, they both did great this season.

Clarkson is a decent player but look at what he's done in Cleveland. He's ok and has his moments but not star caliber.

Bob
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/12/19 05:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Jazzmammal

The Russel trade had to be done, it was the only way to get anybody to eat Mosgov's ridiculous 84 mil contract. Without that, there would be no cap space for LBJ.


I'm no expert, but I always questioned the wisdom of bringing Bron in at this age for that kind of $$$. I felt that money could have been better spent on lesser-known players. But that (and the Mozgov thing) just illustrates where management is at. The fact that they talked about trading half the team for Davis is another one of those things.


Originally Posted By: Jazzmammal

Clarkson is a decent player but look at what he's done in Cleveland. He's ok and has his moments but not star caliber.


Yeah, he didn't impress me much at the Lakers either, but in a team not everybody has to be a star player. Sometimes you just need decent guys who gel with the stars and provide cohesion in a team. I really felt the Lakers had something to build on with the 16-17 roster. A few select veterans to bring some experience to the team would have been my preferred route.

One of the reasons I love the Dubs is that the nucleus of their team (Curry, Thompson, Green) are all GS lifers. They came in as rookies, and became the stars of their team. I had hopes something similar could have happened with the Lakers.
Posted By: Jazzmammal

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/12/19 01:09 PM

Yeah, all good points and I'm with you about just keeping the rookies and let them develop. Every time I talk to friends or just anybody about this they all agree, just the guys develop. The idea of trading half the team including the young core for Davis is just ridiculous.

Still, look how LBJ played this year he was freakin awesome and what a teammate he is. I had no idea he was like that, sitting on the bench and going crazy cheering the guys on. Over the last 15 years I thought Kubchack did a great job but then the last few years it was like the wheels fell off or something. Then there was the Buss family drama with Jim and another one trying to backdoor Jeannie to vote her out in a supposedly secret meeting. She found out, showed up and stopped that. Then she went to court and produced Jerry's will clearly saying the old man wanted her to run the team so now her title with the league is "Controlling Owner". Whether she really knows what she's doing or not remains to be seen.

It will be interesting to see what happens next.
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/12/19 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Jazzmammal

Still, look how LBJ played this year he was freakin awesome and what a teammate he is.


Oh yeah, he still is a force of nature, and he is the league's biggest star, which is also important for a franchise like the Lakers.

But I don't like the numbers. He is on a 4-year deal for $154 million, let's simplistically say he costs $38.5 million per year, and the 2018 salary cap is at $102 million. That means close to 40% of your budget goes to one player, and I'm not sure that's worth it. Even for Bron.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/13/19 01:44 PM

Hey, you know what starts today? The NBA Playoffs. Full of teams without suck. poke
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/16/19 01:07 PM

WTF happened last night?!?

The Clippers’ mind games paid off big. But once they destabilized the Dubs, they brought it on and played great. It looked like the Dubs weren’t even trying.

I don’t much like Beverly, but he has been very effective getting in Durant’s head and disturbing the Dubs’ rhythm.

Still, I don’t see the Dubs losing this, even without Cousins. Durant just needs to get his zen back and not let Beverly bother him.
Posted By: LX88

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/16/19 08:26 PM

Greetings from Portland!

I haven't been following the Blazers like I used to, but give them credit for their opening game against OKC.

Their backup center Enes Kanter came through with 13 boards and 20 points. After losing Yusuf Nurkic for the rest of the season to injury, the Blazers look like they could be back.

Kanter just might be fresh enough to do some more damage.

Since I haven't been paying much attention to the NBA lately, I can't say for sure but this Portland / Oklahoma matchup looks like it will be quite entertaining. I will try to get to a screen somewhere to check out the action.
Posted By: LX88

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/16/19 08:30 PM

OOps... make that 18 rebounds.

Go Blazers.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/18/19 03:13 PM

Originally Posted By: zephonic
I don’t much like Beverly
We loved him here in Houston. He's still a fan favorite and gets applause during intros.

How about them Rockets? They seem to have made some serious adjustments against the defense that the Bucks used and the Jazz adopted. If they get to play the Bucks, it will be interesting to see how both teams adapt. And Harden is continuing to set records. The Rockets are saying they're now a better team than they were last year (everyone else was crying about losing Ariza and LMAM but I figured they'd get it figured out) and so far it's showing.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/18/19 09:05 PM

Man, Paul Pierce ripped into Kyle Lowry after that first game. Deservedly so, but he was probably licking his chops to get a couple more shots in at Kyle.
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/19/19 02:38 AM

So the Dubs came to LA and set the record straight. KD exposed how ineffective Beverley is once the mind games stop working.
Posted By: LX88

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 04/24/19 01:39 PM

The Portland OKC series did turn out to be entertaining after all.

After tolerating all kinds of immature gestures by the Thunder, Damian Lillard got the last word.

It wasn't the first time Lillard stuck a dagger.

In case you haven't seen it, check out the buzzer beater from 37 feet in the final second that finished the series.

And after that, Paul George claims it wasn't a good shot.Are you kidding me?

A good shot consists of whatever it takes to make it.There is always a physical compensation. It doesn't matter if it is done by the book or not. From that distance it just about has to be ugly.

Portland followers know that Damian kept his cool about all the gesturing until it was payback time.

I was a Blazer fan for many years, even while living in L.A. They were always a classic underdog team. I have issues with rooting for marquee players in major markets (such as the self proclaimed "King James"), so I always liked the Blazers.

They appear to be back. We will see what happens for the rest of the season but regardless, look out for next year if they get both of their centers healthy.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/11/19 09:10 AM

Argh. taz
Posted By: Jazzmammal

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/11/19 01:12 PM

Curry! Man, what a performance last night after being ineffective the whole series and not scoring a single point in the first half. GSW outscored the rockets 36 to 26 in the 4th to win the series and it's not that the Rockets didn't play well or somehow tanked. They played well but Curry basically said oh no you don't! Thompson too, he's been off the last few games and turned it on big time but Curry put on a show for the ages in the second half.

Bob
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/11/19 01:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Jazzmammal
Curry! Man, what a performance last night after being ineffective the whole series and not scoring a single point in the first half. GSW outscored the rockets 36 to 26 in the 4th to win the series and it's not that the Rockets didn't play well or somehow tanked. They played well but Curry basically said oh no you don't! Thompson too, he's been off the last few games and turned it on big time but Curry put on a show for the ages in the second half.

Bob



Certain pundits postulated that Curry and Thompson simply defer more to Durant when he plays, as it works for the team. When he's not they go in full-on Splash Brothers mode. Clearly, they have not forgotten how to win without KD.
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/11/19 02:35 PM

I'm still basking in the glow of the Dub's win.

I think the stat they showed on the screen is we're 30-4 when Steph plays but KD does not. The drama was heightened by Steph's 1st half, but what a performance down the wire.

I kept waiting for Houston to step on the gas against our bench...but it never happened. It will be a long off-season to contemplate what might have been. I wonder if it was fatigue or sloppiness or what that never allowed them to break the game open - or if the Dubs just played enough swarming defense to keep it close. Will Houston ownership part ways with D'Antoni at the end of all this? Close games each one of them, hats off to a strong opponent.

We find out who's Tuesday's opponent will be tonight.
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/11/19 02:42 PM

I never understood the people that buried the Dubs because Durant went out. Sure they don't have all the pieces to their team as they did before, but even without KD on the floor they have an incredible amount of fire power.....
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/11/19 05:04 PM

As a Suns fan, I'm disappointed for Mike D'Antoni. He revolutionized the game, but he's never been able to take a team all the way.

The Warriors may not have the bench they had in 2015, but it was good enough to not undermine Steph Curry's clutch performance.

My congrats to Tim and our other Warriors fans. My condolences to Joe.

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: GregC

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/11/19 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: area51recording
I never understood the people that buried the Dubs because Durant went out. Sure they don't have all the pieces to their team as they did before, but even without KD on the floor they have an incredible amount of fire power.....


The Warriors also have Steve Kerr. He has something to do with their run.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/12/19 09:57 AM

Originally Posted By: zephonic
Certain pundits postulated that Curry and Thompson simply defer more to Durant when he plays, as it works for the team. When he's not they go in full-on Splash Brothers mode. Clearly, they have not forgotten how to win without KD.
That's my impression. But then I wonder how amazing the team would be if they all were on all the time. It seems like that would really be unbeatable.

Originally Posted By: timwat
I wonder if it was fatigue or sloppiness or what that never allowed them to break the game open - or if the Dubs just played enough swarming defense to keep it close. Will Houston ownership part ways with D'Antoni at the end of all this? Close games each one of them, hats off to a strong opponent.
It's kind of bizarre, right? All five games were fairly close, I never felt like the Rockets played weakly nor were out of it for the entire game, but same for the Warriors. I'm pretty sure both defenses were on as much as you could be against opponents with such firepower. Even though it didn't go to seven games, this might be the closest series we get for all of this year's playoffs in that regard.

Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
My condolences to Joe.
Thanks, Geoff, but my wife needs it more than I do. She's still pretty bummed.
Posted By: Jazzmammal

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/12/19 02:09 PM

I still sometimes wonder just how important the coach is. Anybody who has the resume and rises to the level of a NBA head coach knows what he's doing. The older I get and the more I watch it really does seem to boil down to the players. As long as a coach has good people skills (they all do) and knows how to manage a game (they all do), the best players win. That was the knock on Phil Jackson being the best coach ever. He had MJ, then Shaq and Kobe.

Switch Kerr and D'Antoni and I think the Dubs still win. Look at Luke. He coached them to what, 30-5 or something when Kerr went down and suddenly he's the hottest new thing in the league? The Lakers signed him immediately because there were 2 or 3 other teams ready to do so too. The best coach ever can't do much with a mediocre team while an average coach can suddenly win a championship with the right group.

Bob
Posted By: GregC

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/12/19 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Jazzmammal
I still sometimes wonder just how important the coach is. Anybody who has the resume and rises to the level of a NBA head coach knows what he's doing. The older I get and the more I watch it really does seem to boil down to the players. As long as a coach has good people skills (they all do) and knows how to manage a game (they all do), the best players win. That was the knock on Phil Jackson being the best coach ever. He had MJ, then Shaq and Kobe.

Switch Kerr and D'Antoni and I think the Dubs still win. Look at Luke. He coached them to what, 30-5 or something when Kerr went down and suddenly he's the hottest new thing in the league? The Lakers signed him immediately because there were 2 or 3 other teams ready to do so too. The best coach ever can't do much with a mediocre team while an average coach can suddenly win a championship with the right group.

Bob


I think Kerr is a difference maker. 1 example-I don't believe Draymond Green is easy to ' coach'.

Did Kerr give up on Steph Curry during his scoreless 1st half on Game 6 ?
He knows Curry gets into a cold spell. Pulling him for Quinn was a coaches move.

How is it decided to plug in to the court, what players at 1 time ? Against a suitably tough opponent. Several factors here.

I know the NBA is considered a players league. I think its obvious that most of the stars have big egos. They want their looks and their stats/points.

And of course, look at Kerr's consistency at winning championships. He is smart enough to allow the players take all the limelight. Being a head coach is a political job.

You can have 6 unbelievably talented players on a team but if there are not coached carefully, there will be disruption and blowups. Lots of emotion out there to handle.
Posted By: Polychrest

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/12/19 11:05 PM

Kawhi. Game seven. Tied with four seconds left. The last shot in regulation.........joy.
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/13/19 03:28 PM

That thing seemed to bounce around the rim for a minute before it dropped. Talk about high drama!The only thing that would have made it better would have been if the game had not been tied at that point....
Posted By: Synthaholic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/13/19 06:50 PM

Originally Posted By: GregC
Originally Posted By: Jazzmammal
I still sometimes wonder just how important the coach is. Anybody who has the resume and rises to the level of a NBA head coach knows what he's doing. The older I get and the more I watch it really does seem to boil down to the players. As long as a coach has good people skills (they all do) and knows how to manage a game (they all do), the best players win. That was the knock on Phil Jackson being the best coach ever. He had MJ, then Shaq and Kobe.

Switch Kerr and D'Antoni and I think the Dubs still win. Look at Luke. He coached them to what, 30-5 or something when Kerr went down and suddenly he's the hottest new thing in the league? The Lakers signed him immediately because there were 2 or 3 other teams ready to do so too. The best coach ever can't do much with a mediocre team while an average coach can suddenly win a championship with the right group.

Bob


I think Kerr is a difference maker. 1 example-I don't believe Draymond Green is easy to ' coach'.

Did Kerr give up on Steph Curry during his scoreless 1st half on Game 6 ?
He knows Curry gets into a cold spell. Pulling him for Quinn was a coaches move.

How is it decided to plug in to the court, what players at 1 time ? Against a suitably tough opponent. Several factors here.

I know the NBA is considered a players league. I think its obvious that most of the stars have big egos. They want their looks and their stats/points.

And of course, look at Kerr's consistency at winning championships. He is smart enough to allow the players take all the limelight. Being a head coach is a political job.

You can have 6 unbelievably talented players on a team but if there are not coached carefully, there will be disruption and blowups. Lots of emotion out there to handle.


If you’re interested, this was an excellent profile, and Kerr basically confirms your point about his job being political.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/golden-sta...sty-60-minutes/
Posted By: GregC

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/13/19 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Synthaholic
Originally Posted By: GregC
Originally Posted By: Jazzmammal
I still sometimes wonder just how important the coach is. Anybody who has the resume and rises to the level of a NBA head coach knows what he's doing. The older I get and the more I watch it really does seem to boil down to the players. As long as a coach has good people skills (they all do) and knows how to manage a game (they all do), the best players win. That was the knock on Phil Jackson being the best coach ever. He had MJ, then Shaq and Kobe.

Switch Kerr and D'Antoni and I think the Dubs still win. Look at Luke. He coached them to what, 30-5 or something when Kerr went down and suddenly he's the hottest new thing in the league? The Lakers signed him immediately because there were 2 or 3 other teams ready to do so too. The best coach ever can't do much with a mediocre team while an average coach can suddenly win a championship with the right group.

Bob


I think Kerr is a difference maker. 1 example-I don't believe Draymond Green is easy to ' coach'.

Did Kerr give up on Steph Curry during his scoreless 1st half on Game 6 ?
He knows Curry gets into a cold spell. Pulling him for Quinn was a coaches move.

How is it decided to plug in to the court, what players at 1 time ? Against a suitably tough opponent. Several factors here.

I know the NBA is considered a players league. I think its obvious that most of the stars have big egos. They want their looks and their stats/points.

And of course, look at Kerr's consistency at winning championships. He is smart enough to allow the players take all the limelight. Being a head coach is a political job.

You can have 6 unbelievably talented players on a team but if there are not coached carefully, there will be disruption and blowups. Lots of emotion out there to handle.


If you’re interested, this was an excellent profile, and Kerr basically confirms your point about his job being political.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/golden-state-warriors-the-talent-and-mindset-behind-the-nba-reigning-dynasty-60-minutes/


Thanks, I enjoyed that 'look inside ' by 60 Minutes.

Kerr says 80% of his job is psychology. For example, he works to coordinate fun activities with the team outside the court. With this current lineup- they go bowling.

I would guess many NBA coaches tend to be control freaks or micro managers. I am likely wrong, but I have always believed being a control freak is a counter productive and a negative.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/15/19 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Polychrest
Kawhi. Game seven. Tied with four seconds left. The last shot in regulation.........joy.


First Game 7 buzzer-beater in NBA history.

Also this:

Posted By: Polychrest

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/15/19 07:34 PM

That was cool. twothumbs
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/21/19 02:17 AM

I feel sorry for Portland, I kinda hoped they’d steal at least one win for honor, but these Dubs were just too much.

No Cousins, no KD, no Iggy: no problem.

In a way, I actually prefer the way the Dubs play without Durant. There’s just much more room to play for the other guys. They’re definitely not as strong in the paint without him, though.

I don’t think the Raptors will have enough elasticity to stop the Bucks, and the Bucks don’t have enough experience to beat GSW.
Posted By: LX88

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/21/19 07:52 PM

Portland person here....

It was extremely heartbreaking to see the Blazers choke. They just couldn't deliver at the end of games with Golden State.

We will see if anybody else can - again.

I kind of feel like Portland is the Brooklyn Dodgers and Golden State is the Yankees.

Portland has had so many setbacks. So many injured Centers. Greg Oden was a huge bust, and this season Jusuf Nurkic went down. This all goes back to Bill Walton over 40 years ago.

The good news was - two guys got huge opportunities in the playoffs. Rodney Hood ( who helped beat Denver and OKC ) and Meyers Leonard, who scored 30 against the Warriors last night.

The future may be bright with Leonard because of his renewed confidence . It is of some consolation that Portland could have Leonard, Zach Collins , not to mention Hood and ( hopefully ) a healthy Nurkic.

Throw Lillard and McCollum into that mix and please, get some forwards who can score.

The Blazers could be dangerous next year. No one expected that they would make the Western Conference finals. And they had big leads in just about every game but unfortunately choked in every game.

Posted By: GregC

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/21/19 10:18 PM

Originally Posted By: LX88
Portland person here....

It was extremely heartbreaking to see the Blazers choke. They just couldn't deliver at the end of games with Golden State.

We will see if anybody else can - again.

I kind of feel like Portland is the Brooklyn Dodgers and Golden State is the Yankees.

Portland has had so many setbacks. So many injured Centers. Greg Oden was a huge bust, and this season Jusuf Nurkic went down. This all goes back to Bill Walton over 40 years ago.

The good news was - two guys got huge opportunities in the playoffs. Rodney Hood ( who helped beat Denver and OKC ) and Meyers Leonard, who scored 30 against the Warriors last night.

The future may be bright with Leonard because of his renewed confidence . It is of some consolation that Portland could have Leonard, Zach Collins , not to mention Hood and ( hopefully ) a healthy Nurkic.

Throw Lillard and McCollum into that mix and please, get some forwards who can score.

The Blazers could be dangerous next year. No one expected that they would make the Western Conference finals. And they had big leads in just about every game but unfortunately choked in every game.



I like your team. I think the Blazers have a lot of talent and class. I noticed the team and even the media stayed positive despite the result.

Keep in mind, your team was up against the Warriors, a team with experience, the big guns, the coaching expertise etc etc. margin of victory was very narrow and most games were hard fought battles to the end.

I don't see ' choke '.
Posted By: GregC

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/22/19 12:30 PM

Sir Charles, my favorite comedian:

from Barkley after Kevin Durant's injury in Game 5 of the Western Conference Semifinals against the Houston Rockets: "The Warriors ain't got no chance of winning without Kevin Durant. This series or any other series... they're not going to beat the Rockets without KD, and they're not going to beat Portland or Denver without KD."
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/22/19 01:07 PM

Great to see the Raptors even up with the Bucks. Will be good TV to see if they can take a game in Milwaukee.

Barkley did offer a full on-screen mea culpa, stating he was 100% wrong and that the Warriors sweep of the Blazers puts Steph back in the conversation for best player (his take, not sure anyone else cares about that).

So I appreciate he can admit when he's blown a prediction (which is not uncommon in sports journalism). But I think he realizes he's primarily a shoot-from-the-hip provocateur, not a measured analyst like Kenny the Jet. That's his schtick, and it's carried him this far.

More interesting to me is the more thoughtful take on the Warriors that it's NEVER been about "KD vs. Steph, who's greater or more essential", or that the Dubs are 31-1 when Steph plays and KD doesn't, or that the ball slows down when KD plays, or anything like that. That isn't the system the Kerr has built.

What Kerr has built is a system that leverages the embarrassment of riches on the roster, and simply looks at winning rather than individual player glory.

You want to play like the Rockets? We have a line up that will answer that.
You want to play like the Blazers? We have an answer to that.
KD out? We have an answer to that.
Bring on a gimpy Boogie to rehab on our roster? We can do that.
Iggy pull up sore for a couple games? We can adjust.

Kerr's genius, I think, is the ability to use the wealth of tools on the roster to answer whatever a worthy opponent confronts you with. And build a corporate culture that is unselfish enough to not bother with egos and who's greatest or most important - and just adjust lineups, matchups and strategy to adjust (and sometimes confound).

Why talk about who has what stats and glory and such. Why not just win?
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/22/19 02:24 PM

Huge team performance from the Raps last night. At least Charles didn't have to eat those words!
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/26/19 01:05 AM

RAPS

KAWHI

LET'S GO
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/26/19 01:32 AM

Originally Posted By: MAJUSCULE
RAPS

KAWHI

LET'S GO



Congrats, Eric :-)

Your boys deserve to go through, amazing comeback!

Giannis and the Bucks are on the rise and will get plenty of chances to make the finals, but I kinda got the feeling that for Toronto it is now or never.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/26/19 01:48 AM

Yeah, we can hope Kawhi resigns, but it really does feel like this is the year. Too bad the Dubs are statistically the best NBA playoff team of all time, but that's why they play the games! Should be a good series.
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/26/19 09:07 AM

Impressive comeback by the Raptors to win those four games! Some of us miss Kyle Lowry down here, especially seeing what he's doing now.
Posted By: GregC

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/26/19 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: MAJUSCULE
Yeah, we can hope Kawhi resigns, but it really does feel like this is the year. Too bad the Dubs are statistically the best NBA playoff team of all time, but that's why they play the games! Should be a good series.


any prediction ?

I haven't followed your team. So, I have none at this time. The match ups should be great to see in theory, then in action.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/26/19 01:02 PM

Kawhi is on another level right now. Scoring, rebounding, defending, playmaking, you name it. He's been the definition of clutch this spring, raising his game every time the team needs it.

It's gonna take a massive effort, but Masai put together a smart and scrappy team that can hopefully make some noise. They certainly believe in themselves.
Posted By: Polychrest

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/26/19 10:52 PM

And we’ve got Drake, our official ambassador of goodwill, pacing the sidelines and playing the same role with obstreperous visitors as Sven does here in the KC. If Steph Curry wants to challenge a questionable call and doesn’t want Drake releasing a nasty satirical song about him this summer, he damn well better google the instant replay and check out what really happened before he wastes the ref’s time whining about something he should already know.
Posted By: timwat

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/27/19 03:03 PM

Polychrest,

You realize your ambassador already has tattoos of Steph and KD, is longtime friends with a few of the Dubs, has flown off to party with them, and has already written lyrics about the Dubs 'running practice at my house'? I doubt Drake will prove an annoyance to GS.

I am hoping for a strong, competitive series - congrats to Toronto for finishing strong over the Bucks. Finals starting in T-minus...
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/27/19 03:12 PM

Yeah.......somehow I don't see Drake throwing GS off their game a whole lot....
Posted By: Polychrest

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/27/19 03:43 PM

Steph spent two years living in Toronto as a kid when his dad played for the Raps. He was already showing flashes of his huge talent on the court. He’s much-loved up here. As for Drake, the Bucks blew it when they let his annoying antics become a thing. They were new to this level of competition (as were those of us not named Kawhi). You guys aren’t. It should be fun.
Posted By: ProfD

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/27/19 03:51 PM

Dubs versus Raps final should be entertaining. My prediction is GS takes it in 5 games unless the NBA wants 6 games. laughcool
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 05/27/19 04:16 PM

I think the NBA would adore 7 games, but I think GS just has too many weapons, even if KD is out. Dubs in 5.....
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/08/19 02:10 PM

Well how about that?!?

I gotta hand it to the Raptors, 3-1, did not see that coming.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/08/19 04:32 PM

And Klay played great too, gotta hand it to him.

But yeah, Kawhi is clutch city, and most everyone is stepping up at one point or another.

Closing out at home?? Gonna be tough.

Anyone think KD is coming back? Depending on which pundits I listen to, some people say he could come back and single-handedly win the series, some say he's not coming back at all.
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/08/19 06:36 PM

I dunno, closing out at home doesn’t look all that tough to me, judging from the last four games. If Durant is back for game 5, anything could happen.

I have the feeling KD is out, though. I mean, he has much to lose and little to gain. If he doesn’t come back, the story will be “Dubs couldn’t do it without Durant”. If he does come back, he’ll have to win the next three games, a tall order against these Raptors.

And can we get a moment of silence for DeMar DeRozan? Poor guy...
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/08/19 06:57 PM

Yeah, DeRozan worked hard to elevate his team's play. It's too bad he's not there to reap the rewards.

I've been enjoying watching the Raptors win, and I'll be happy for Canada if they win the Finals. I don't dislike Golden State at all, but I don't like watching one team dominate year after year. (Longtime readers of these NBA threads may recall that I said the same thing about my second favorite team, the Lakers.)

In hindsight, it's not surprising to see injuries taking their toll on the Dubs. Any team, in any sport, that repeatedly goes all the way in the postseason faces extra wear and tear that other teams don't have to endure. I'll be surprised if Durant returns; and if he does, I don't expect him to do so at full strength.

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/08/19 06:58 PM

Even if KD comes back, I don't see him being KD soon enough to help. I get the feeling the Dubs may have dug themselves an insurmountable hole.....
Posted By: El Lobo

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/08/19 07:45 PM

Raptors are a better team and have outplayed the Warriors. I say that as a huge Warriors fan. Raptors have some great shooters. Steph can't do it all, and even with Klay they can't do it all. Gotta make those 3-point shots and get the rebounds.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/10/19 01:47 AM

Originally Posted By: zephonic
I dunno, closing out at home doesn’t look all that tough to me, judging from the last four games.


Just trying not to get ahead of myself... grin St Louis couldn't close out the Stanley Cup at home tonight, although that series has arguably been tighter. KD is officially questionable for tomorrow night, although he practiced today. If Kawhi has a Kawhi night, the Warriors will have to have one of their great games to push it to six.

Originally Posted By: zephonic

And can we get a moment of silence for DeMar DeRozan? Poor guy...


And Dwane Casey. We can probably throw JV in there too. Sacrifices must be made to win a championship, especially in the Warriors era (thankfully LeBron wasn't a factor this year). Credit Masai and Bobby Webster for getting it right. Those guys are all really good at their jobs, but they couldn't get over the hump.
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/10/19 09:04 PM

Well, this should make things interesting tonight!

Kevin Durant returning for Game 5
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/10/19 09:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
Yeah, DeRozan worked hard to elevate his team's play. It's too bad he's not there to reap the rewards.

I've been enjoying watching the Raptors win, and I'll be happy for Canada if they win the Finals. I don't dislike Golden State at all, but I don't like watching one team dominate year after year. (Longtime readers of these NBA threads may recall that I said the same thing about my second favorite team, the Lakers.)

In hindsight, it's not surprising to see injuries taking their toll on the Dubs. Any team, in any sport, that repeatedly goes all the way in the postseason faces extra wear and tear that other teams don't have to endure. I'll be surprised if Durant returns; and if he does, I don't expect him to do so at full strength.

Best,

Geoff


I feel the same way. I don't feel strongly about either team winning. I think Siakam and Lowry's stock has gone up in this series. And we all knew this, but Kawhi is amazing.

And to make things more interesting tonight, KD is coming back for Game 5.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kevin...-of-nba-finals/
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/11/19 01:02 AM

Man oh man oh man!

What a game! Dubs live to fight another day. Hoping this series goes to seven.

I still don't understand why Cousins' goal in the last minute was disallowed? Is that a new rule? Because I remember guys doing that all the time back in the day.

KD wanted to come back too soon, I guess. I hope he hasn't made things worse for himself.

The Raptors showed up, though! I honestly want both teams to win the championship!
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/11/19 01:57 AM

Man, what a game. Just needed one more layup...

Feel bad for KD.
Posted By: harmonizer

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/11/19 10:06 AM

That was a heck of a game last night - really good players giving it their all. GS played some great basketball immediately after KD was injured.
Posted By: harmonizer

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/11/19 10:19 AM

Originally Posted By: zephonic
....I still don't understand why Cousins' goal in the last minute was disallowed? Is that a new rule? Because I remember guys doing that all the time back in the day....


I don't fully understand the offensive interference rule that got called on Cousins. The rule prohibits touching the ball while it is "within the cylinder extending upwards from the rim". Does anyone know if this means if *any part* of the ball is within that imaginary cylinder, or does more than half of the ball need to be within that imaginary cylinder for the call to be made? To my eyes, the replays showed that only a small part of the ball was still within that imaginary cylinder when Cousins' hand made contact with the ball.
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/11/19 11:56 AM

I believe it's any part of the ball, yes.
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/11/19 05:37 PM

Sources: Warriors believe KD has torn Achilles

Durant will have an MRI on Tuesday to determine the severity of the injury. If it is a torn Achilles, he'll miss most of the next season. I wonder how that will affect his free agency, not to mention his ability to ever play at his best again.

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: zephonic

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/16/19 03:39 PM

So with the whole forum migration we never got to congratulate the Raptors fans with their maiden title.

Congrats, Eric!


Big question is how the Dubs will do without KD and Klay next season. And will an aging Lebron be able to bring glory to the Lakers now that Anthony Davis is joining him here?
Posted By: RABid

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/16/19 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by zephonic
.... And will an aging Lebron be able to bring glory to the Lakers now that Anthony Davis is joining him here?


Going to make for an interesting season. Will they be able to add a third star to the mix?
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/16/19 03:45 PM

Thanks Menno! cheers cheers cheers
Posted By: Dave Bryce

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/16/19 04:38 PM

I can not believe the deal the Lakers just made. idk facepalm

They must be out of their minds giving all that up just to basically rent The Brow for a year. eek

The Pelicans, OTOH, just basically locked up a pretty solid team, especially with the incoming Zion Williamson. Nicely done, Pels!

Hope Davis doesn't get hurt. That would suck for LA, huh? eek

dB
Posted By: MAJUSCULE

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/16/19 04:54 PM

I mean, they do have a good chance of signing him next summer, right? But yeah, injuries change everything in a flash.
Posted By: KenElevenShadows

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/16/19 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
I can not believe the deal the Lakers just made. idk facepalm

They must be out of their minds giving all that up just to basically rent The Brow for a year. eek

The Pelicans, OTOH, just basically locked up a pretty solid team, especially with the incoming Zion Williamson. Nicely done, Pels!

Hope Davis doesn't get hurt. That would suck for LA, huh? eek

dB


The Lakers gave up a LOT to get Davis. However, I feel like they had kinda painted themselves into a corner with all their nonsense and dysfunction, and had to do something to shake up the team.

Regardless, there's a ton of noise about them being instant contenders, and that seems really bizarre to me. They seem to be a long way from that, even if they get Kemba Walker.
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/16/19 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by zephonic
So with the whole forum migration we never got to congratulate the Raptors fans with their maiden title.

Congrats, Eric!


Big question is how the Dubs will do without KD and Klay next season. And will an aging Lebron be able to bring glory to the Lakers now that Anthony Davis is joining him here?

Yes, congratulations, Eric, and any other Raptors fans here.

My condolences to our Warriors fans too. Tough break, literally!

Best,

Geoff
Posted By: area51recording

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/16/19 08:56 PM

With this trade, do the Pelicans also get custody of LaVar Ball?
Posted By: Geoff Grace

Re: Official NBA 2018-2019 Thread - 06/16/19 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by area51recording
With this trade, do the Pelicans also get custody of LaVar Ball?

Yes, my condolences to our Pelicans fans.

By the way, there's a new thread in town for talk about the upcoming season:

Official NBA 2019-2020 Thread

Best,

Geoff
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