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Kawai MP7....... WOW!

Posted By: voxpops

Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 09:02 PM

MP7
Kawai has gone all out with this one: "Featuring the same tone generator, DSP power, D/A converters, and 32 of the finest sounds from the MP11"

And it's a beautiful design.
Posted By: mate stubb

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 09:13 PM

46 lbs. Looks pretty!
Posted By: Jazz+

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 09:26 PM

How are the on-board speakers?
Posted By: voxpops

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 09:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Jazz+
How are the on-board speakers?

As good as the ones on the CP4.
Posted By: CEB

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 10:21 PM

Supports the F-30. Looks most cool. I would not
mind upgrading the MP-5.
Posted By: davedoerfler

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 10:26 PM

Originally Posted By: voxpops
MP7
Kawai has gone all out with this one: "Featuring the same tone generator, DSP power, D/A converters, and 32 of the finest sounds from the MP11"

And it's a beautiful design.


sounds good also

Posted By: aellison62

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 10:27 PM

This sounds Sweet!!
Posted By: HAM&EGZ

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 11:24 PM

I listened to the demos sounds real good

but not to be Debbie Downer but

46 pounds

great organ sim but only 4 sliders real time you have to menu over for the other 4 + 1 ?? OK its not an SK or Kurz or VR 09 or ???
ANd yes my CP4 doesn't have sliders I can shlep my Stage 2 for draw bars so kind moot point for an all in one vs two boards..you win that point

"Other" sounds strings horns synths ..

OTOH the piano extra programming pedal/strike . etc sound great
on my computer speakers

I/O pedals, connectivity are first class from the demo

Finally PRICE?

I am not dissing the Kawai, I just sunk some money into a CP4 and now wonder "should I have waited for the next best thing from another vendor?"

Buyers regret? no such thing huh >?
Posted By: Sundown

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 11:37 PM

Looks like a nice board, but you have to spring for the MP11 if you want wood keys (ala CP4).

I've still got my heart set on the VPC-1.
Posted By: Kawai James

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/09/14 11:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Sundown
...if you want wood keys (ala CP4).


Keys with wood are not the same as wooden keys.

James
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Posted By: voxpops

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 12:23 AM

I think that key length is more important than the material used.
Posted By: voxpops

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 12:33 AM

Originally Posted By: HAM&EGZ
46 pounds

It would have been great if they'd managed to shave 5 or 6 lbs off the MP6, but it's just about doable for me. At least it looks like high quality construction.

Quote:
great organ sim but only 4 sliders real time you have to menu over for the other 4 + 1 ?? OK its not an SK or Kurz or VR 09 or ???
I think the real question is, are the drawbars MIDI accessible? If they are, you could hook up an Ocean Beach DB1. If not, well, I'd still prefer to play organ on a separate board (unless this turns out to have a killer Hammond/Leslie sim).

Quote:
"Other" sounds strings horns synths ..

From the little I've heard, I'd say these are a real advance on what's in the MP6.

Quote:
I am not dissing the Kawai, I just sunk some money into a CP4 and now wonder "should I have waited for the next best thing from another vendor?"

Buyers regret? no such thing huh >?

I'm kinda glad I returned my CP4. wink Especially if the price comes in not much higher than the MP6.
Posted By: Kawai James

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 01:15 AM

Originally Posted By: voxpops
Quote:
great organ sim but only 4 sliders real time you have to menu over for the other 4 + 1 ?? OK its not an SK or Kurz or VR 09 or ???


I think the real question is, are the drawbars MIDI accessible?
If they are, you could hook up an Ocean Beach DB1.


Yes indeed. wink

From page 44 of the owner's manual:



Cheers,
James
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Posted By: Jazz+

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 02:29 AM

I don't like the way those right hand piano notes sound in the demo. They sound plinky to me. I am listening with Sony MDR 7506 headphones. Also, the Rhodes is not the classic sound I would want.
Posted By: Kawai James

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 02:43 AM

Jazz+, the MP7 uses many of the same sounds as the MP11, so you may wish to visit www.kawaimp.com and listen to more of the larger model's demos to get a feel for how the MP7 also sounds.

James
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Posted By: UnderGroundH

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 02:55 AM

I had a MP8, a K5000S and a K1...great company !!!
Posted By: mate stubb

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 03:04 AM

The Rhodes in that vid sounded like Roland SA to me. Not the classic sound, but an alternate sound that I welcome. SA got me thru the 80's without having to succumb to the DX7, and I remember it fondly. grin
Posted By: Six-string-man

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 04:32 AM

Nice looking board, but it didn't hit me in the gut the way its big brother did a couple of weeks ago.

Maybe I'm suffering from brain overload, what with this, the MP11, the new Roland's, the XK1c, Moxf et al, all within the last few months.

Having said that, it's great to have such an amazing choice these days, surely there is something for everyone available out there now!


SSM
Posted By: stoken6

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 05:01 AM

Internal PSU - well done Kawai.

Cheers, Mike.
Posted By: voxpops

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 05:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Six-string-man
Nice looking board, but it didn't hit me in the gut the way its big brother did a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah, you're going to feel that 70lbs chunk when it slams into your solar plexus! shocked
Posted By: Six-string-man

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 05:25 AM

Originally Posted By: voxpops
Originally Posted By: Six-string-man
Nice looking board, but it didn't hit me in the gut the way its big brother did a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah, you're going to feel that 70lbs chunk when it slams into your solar plexus! shocked



LOL @ voxpops.


SSM
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 05:49 AM

I don't find the onboard 4-slider drawbar scheme too off-putting considering that, if you're the kind of organ player who needs real-time drawbar control, you probably don't want to be playing organ from a weighted action. Still, it's great that it does have the option for MIDI control as well.

It's the same weight as the Artis, if you really want the 9 sliders, though I expect the Kawai will have the preferable action. Curious to see how the price compares...
Posted By: Aidan

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 06:02 AM

First impressions are it looks very nice. It certainly has an air of quality both the most recent arrivals from Yamaha and Roland have lacked, TBH, but of course that is reflected in the weight.

In my experience, there is something of a watershed point when we talk about that issue. For me, anyway, a board weighing around 17kg or less can be put in a soft gig bag and carried reasonable distances (i.e. those of a typical load-in).

Anything above that and you tend to be in wheeled case territory. And inevitably, a wheeled case, even a 'soft' one, requires a rigid skeleton which is going to considerably add to the hand-lift weight, which you are going to encounter negotiating steps or hauling the thing in and out of your vehicle.

I like the sound of the MP7 very much, although I do notice a thinness and slightly brittle quality in the piano sound in the video demo above C5. I'm fairly confident that could be fixed fairly easily in the editing, though. One thing that has become clear to me is that the Yamaha and Roland at least don't appear to show to their best advantage with the factory defaults, and certainly the former at least (the only one I have practical experience with so far) improves substantially with just a bit of tweaking.

Anyway, nicely done product, James and congratulations on the new arrival. Had I the spare dosh and the ability to justify it to the better half, I'd buy an MP11 tomorrow for my studio. That's where it would be staying, though - oof! smile
Posted By: CEB

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 09:50 AM

I wonder how that new control panel will work.

The thing about the MP-5, 6, and 8 style panel is when you have a 2 tier rig you can still see the controls.
Posted By: AnotherScott

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 12:02 PM

Originally Posted By: CEB
I wonder how that new control panel will work.

The thing about the MP-5, 6, and 8 style panel is when you gave a 2 tier rig you can still see the controls.

Yeah, the angled panels are nice (also similar to the Korg SV-1).

The first pic that comes up on the MP7 page shows an image through a fish-eye lens which gives the board a curve. I have to admit, I thought that looked like a pretty interesting design right there... not the most practical, but eye-catching!
Posted By: JeffLearman

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 01:00 PM

Originally Posted By: voxpops
I think that key length is more important than the material used.
I agree.

It looks like the keyboard is tilted a bit -- higher in front, lower in back. Is it really?
Posted By: Joe Muscara

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: learjeff
It looks like the keyboard is tilted a bit -- higher in front, lower in back. Is it really?
I think you've basically asked this and had it answered already.
Posted By: davedoerfler

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Originally Posted By: learjeff
It looks like the keyboard is tilted a bit -- higher in front, lower in back. Is it really?
I think you've basically asked this and had it answered already.


Groundhog Day? idk
Posted By: 16251

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 05:59 PM

The more I listen to these new offereings, here with the MP7, the CP4 and RD8000, I'm seriously considering the Nord Piano2. None of them have sealed the deal.
Posted By: Carl C.

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/10/14 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: 16251
The more I listen to these new offereings, here with the MP7, the CP4 and RD8000, I'm seriously considering the Nord Piano2. None of them have sealed the deal.


@16251: I would think the RD800 might be a nice fit for you coming from a FP-4. It seems the edibility and versatility on the RD800 would give you great AP and EP sounds that might be almost as good or equal to the NP2. Plus the RD is cheaper and obviously better action. Go back to GC and demo it again. Just bring some good headphones this time. You cant judge it on one crappy studio monitor. You can probably a/b it with the Nord Stage 2 that GC usually has on display. I like the RD800 very much and prefer a few things about it over Nord, Kawai MPs, and even my own CP4.
Posted By: The_Star_Guy

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/22/14 12:16 AM

I was very impressed by the last Kawai piano that I played. Have to admit that I am very intrigued by this offering also, especially since it seems to undercut even the Yamaha CP-40 in price. From what I gather in the demo that I saw, suggested retail in the USA will be around $1595?
Posted By: voxpops

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/22/14 01:43 AM

$1,799 at Kraft Music. Still very competitive.
Posted By: dreamer65

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/22/14 05:18 AM

Originally Posted By: 16251
The more I listen to these new offereings, here with the MP7, the CP4 and RD8000, I'm seriously considering the Nord Piano2. None of them have sealed the deal.


+1 .. did a shootout between mp7 cp4 rd800 and NP2 at musikmesse .. same impression

If only the keys were better .. and the upper heights more profond .. and velocity curves more adjustable .. well, maybe NP3 will fix that

we have to wait also for production-ready Kurz Forte .. the tech sample there simply hang up itsself during demo .. best to have a NE4D on top for backup to bridge the reboot time ..
Posted By: Analogaddict

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/22/14 05:38 AM

I love my MP8II. Thanks to Kawai for making such great keybeds..!
Posted By: The_Star_Guy

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/22/14 02:38 PM

So, reviewing the specs, what is the possibility of using an external 61 key controller w/ 9 faders in tandem with the MP7 as the sole sound source to access the Organ and other extra voices on the MP 7? Given the 256 note polyphony, it still makes for a light weight 2 keyboard gigging setup.
Posted By: Al Coda

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/23/14 07:35 AM

Originally Posted By: dreamer65


we have to wait also for ...


Yes, thatīs it,- WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR what ever will come in future. wave

When I look at my Kurz PC361 and itīs update cycles and it is still not bug free up today,- I expect similar experience w/ not only new Kurz gear in future.
Iīm tired of that truely.

During the wait for all kind of unfinished flagship waporware to be finished or itīs arrival on the market in general,- Iīm pretty sure, a Kawai MP7 w/ all itīs features and for about EUR 1.500.- incl. 19% VAT will be a great stage instrument and sound good enough for the average joe audience out there as well as for most musicians, especially these not being dedicated classical trained concert acoustic piano players and doing solo piano gigs.

Any NORD Piano 3 will be much more expensive and even the Kurz Forte is about twice the price.

Iīm also not aware of any Kawai gear which needed lots of updates and fixes once it was released,- normally you can go into a shop, buy an play.
Build quality normally is good and the MP7īs sounds are tweakable too.
Iīll definitely check it out and hope it blends well w/ my PC361.

I already had that in mind w/ the MP6 but waited for a MP7 in the hope of better e-pianos.
I think that happened now.

A.C.
Posted By: The_Star_Guy

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/23/14 11:43 AM

At the moment I'm seeking a replacement Stage piano with strong controller capabilities for my RD-600. I can manage 46 lbs so the MP7 weight is not a problem for me. I really liked the playability, controller capabilities and potential soundboard adjustments on previous Kawai pianos that I played before. I may be in the minority & old-school but I also love the handsome wooden endcaps as well. Does anyone know when delivery starts so I can hopefully locate one and evaluate?
Posted By: Al Coda

Re: Kawai MP7....... WOW! - 03/23/14 01:02 PM

Originally Posted By: The_Star_Guy
Does anyone know when delivery starts so I can hopefully locate one and evaluate?


Largest shop in my town says april 28 earliest.
MP7 in germany

Donīt know what the policy of Kawai in the US is.
Can be you see it earlier ... wink

A.C.
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