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"Keeping The Peace"! #975217 09/01/00 12:25 AM
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Ed, & Everybody,

Do you have any suggestions on how to "keep the peace" during a heated recording session.
Any horror stories, or happy endings?

"Professional". C/O
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Re: "Keeping The Peace"! #975218 09/01/00 02:29 AM
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For starters, assistants should be taught to 'go do something' out side the room where there is an argument. Pride and bystanders can play a big part, I was always told to make myself scarce if things got hot. It's hard to get some folks to back down if they have a crowd watching...

A producer shouting 'hang on a fuc*king minuit' can sometimes get everybodys attention...

"simmer down' time sometimes must be allocated where a shitty vibe is still around but will hopefully fade.. So forceing folks to shake and make up might not always be appropriate.

I had the worst session disintetegration of my carear just recently, a druggy (heroin) artist couple in a signed act, that were pennyless and in between managers, were so late (scoring) and took so many calls on their mobiles (DIY manegement) that I kinda lost it with em.
V F Heavy... We got some great tracks though! It took 3 months before we were back on speaking terms... A total of 8 hours late on a five days session, I refused their outlandish request for me to make the assistant 'open up early' at 8am for them to 'experiment with sounds'. Shit! They couldn't even make it in for 2PM! And I needed the assistant to be on the ball for me that day as we were to be mixing late due to thier 'dry roasted' budget situation..Oh yes and I was on 1/4 of my normal rate! Anyway this infuriated them no end. Oh well......

Jules


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Re: "Keeping The Peace"! #975219 09/01/00 09:12 PM
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Turn on the PORNO!!

OR, if you're an NRA-Charleton Heston lover , get out your UZI!!

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Re: "Keeping The Peace"! #975220 09/02/00 01:20 AM
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Well, it's been my experience that when this happens it's good to have a clear "chain of command" that's well understood by everyone.
If I were the second engineer, with a glance I could signal an assistant to leave the room. For that matter, I would be looking to the chief engineer for my cues. If I was the lead engineer, I would be looking at the producer for cues. But mostly, I would ride it out.
If you're deep into the problem, try to understand the point of the other person. This may seem stupid, but, restate what they're saying back to them in a different way so you're sure what they're telling you.
Sometime a session just has to end and everyone go away for a few hours.
People skills are some of the hardest things to learn in good bussiness practice. I think Ed and some of the others here have learned how to manage people and emotions just as well as compressors and mic-pre's.

Good luck.



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Porn works wonders from the get!
It's so true.
We have international sat in the longe and it tends to keep most not actively involved out of the studio.
There is great merit in walking away and letting the s#&* fly, yet if your in charge the secret is to hear everything without them knowing and stepping in at the perfect moment using your intellegence gathering to simmer things down.
Also, record everything.
Sometimes a quick edit fed back though the cans can level the place with humor,
this has worked untold times for me.
People seem to lighten up when hearing themselves post comment thru the cans, still keep it funny, or dont do it ! Dont through gas on the fire!

MP

Re: "Keeping The Peace"! #975222 09/03/00 12:41 PM
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This is a very good topic, and I will be back tomorrow to comment more.....but when I bring my dog to the studio, people seem to act much more civilized, and there is a lot less "acting out".
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REMEMBER!!

THE MOST IMPORTANT ROOM IN A STUDIO IS THE LOUNGE!!


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Re: "Keeping The Peace"! #975224 09/08/00 05:24 AM
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I have a print-out of all the studio jokes that are in this forum - when there is a problem I just tell the appropriate joke (ie if its a producer, a producer joke etc etc).

Not one of those guys has ever come back to argue with me again.

I won, didn't I?


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