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#967001 - 07/14/01 04:09 AM Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I used to teach a class in the summer, and every year I'd have the students go see the same movie, and we'd discuss the soundtrack and use of sound effects in class. Well, it's "summer blockbuster" time again...have you heard any good movie soundtracks or sound effects yet? Anything that made you go "wow, that sure was great sound/music"?
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#967002 - 07/14/01 05:02 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Tan Dun's soundtrack to "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" hit me in my soul. Oceans of sound that you want to drown in. Two enthusiastic thumbs up!

"The Million Dollar Hotel" is a must-rent. Lyrics by Salmon Rushdie, sung by Bono...oh, deep, man. Starring Mel Gibson, Milla Jovovich, Jeremy Davies (you have to see his performance to believe it - the biggest leap in film acting since Brando's "Streetcar..."), Jimmy Smits (in a hilarious comic role), Julian Sands (who has an excellent monologue in the film expounding on the fine line between "art" and "garbage")...it's the quirky art film from hell, with a fantastic soundtrack. Two thumbs up.

"The Pledge" directed by Sean Penn and starring Jack Nicholson, is devastatingly beautiful. It doesn't have a happy ending, but it will hit you hard in your soul. Good for ya once in awhile. Two thumbs up.

"Romeo Is Bleeding" will also break your heart, but a strong heart has been broken a few times, so rent it. You won't notice the soundtrack, and that's what makes it so effective. Starring Gary Oldman and Lena Olin, both turning in scorchingly convincing performances. Two thumbs up.

"Ghost Dog, Way Of The Samurai" starring Forest Whitaker as a mafia hitman, has a fantastic soundtrack produced by RZA of Wu-Tang, and it's a little gem of a film that you'll want to own. Two thumbs up.

A brief list of additional film score favorites in the Curve Lounge CD library...

•"The Last Emperor" - Sakamoto
•"The Year Of Living Dangerously" - Maurice Jarre
•"You Only Live Twice" - John Barry
•"Buena Vista Social Club" - various artists, including Ibrahim Ferrer, Ruben Gonzalez, Ry Cooder, Compay Secundo, Eliades Ochoa...

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#967003 - 07/14/01 06:04 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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- The Mummy II

- Tomb Raider

- Dr. Doolittle II

All fun flicks with excellent sound and music.

I haven't seen it, but I'll bet The Fast And The Furious has some slamming jams.

Looking forward to Final Fantasy and Planet of the Apes.

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#967004 - 07/14/01 06:32 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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#967005 - 07/14/01 06:32 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Tan Dun's soundtrack to "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" hit me in my soul. Oceans of sound that you want to drown in. Two enthusiastic thumbs up!


Very beautiful movie, and the first movie soundtrack of cohesive beauty I've heard in a long time. Best and most moving movie I've seen in the last couple of years.

The original Planet of the Apes had a great soundtrack by Jerry Goldsmith, it'll be interesting to hear the new one- I hope.

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#967006 - 07/14/01 07:37 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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~traffic~ music by david torn guitarrorist/looper/composer extrordinaire


Thanks for the tip, I didn't know that. It's still playing here. Hollywood movies come a bit later here, dubbed into German. Been watching the summer blockbusters steadily for the last month, the popcorn is terrible but I don't mind.

The Mummy Returns soundtrack? hm...well I enjoyed watching the villainess. There are some fine bits of fx-music in Tomb Raider...Red Planet was a cool but maybe not entirely successful attempt at good old-fashioned "hard sci-fi", the music I'd file under "at least it didn't bug".

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#967007 - 07/14/01 12:26 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Hans Zimmer's score for "Gladiator" worked on so many levels, and I really like the vocalist he worked with.

The music in "O Brother, Where Art Thou" is too much fun. Gillian Welch (among other) was a music consultant on the film, and I'm a HUGE fan of hers.
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#967008 - 07/14/01 01:56 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I just saw "Brother where art thou" and I have to say that the music is almost another character in the movie. Could almost be considered a musical....but its not. The use of music in this movie is borderline genius.
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#967009 - 07/14/01 02:51 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Originally posted by jackpine:
I just saw "Brother where art thou" and I have to say that the music is almost another character in the movie. Could almost be considered a musical....but its not. The use of music in this movie is borderline genius.


Definitely!
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#967010 - 07/14/01 03:36 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Wow! The whole time I was listening to Traffic I was saying to myself "this ambient sound track is really reminisscent of David Torn". Very cool.

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#967011 - 07/14/01 03:38 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I'll tell you,

I have been waiting VERY patiently to see 'The lord of the rings'. It is supposed to come out next year. It has been in the making for a few years now and it supposed to rival 'Star Wars' in production. Actually the word is it has already spent more than SW on production. Can't wait to hear that Soundtrack. I had a dream as a kid, I wanted to produce that movie. I would spend hours casting it over the years. I had my ideal choices for Aragorn, Gandolf, etc. Still waiting.. The Cool thing is, the whole movie is shot in Europe with mostly unknowns. That movie needed to be produced without any Hollywood. What is it about european movies, they just have more grit.

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#967012 - 07/14/01 03:42 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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1) American Beauty
2) Finding Forrester (w/ Bill Frisell)
3) Traffic (of course)
4) Amores Perros (a mex. film that features a lotta guitar overdubbed loops - something like Pat metheny's Electric Counterpoint)

Guitarists are starting to rule Hollywood... synths are out...

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#967013 - 07/14/01 04:04 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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The Traffic soundtrack is killer, but it's by Cliff Martiniez, not David Torn. David Torn is credited with "textural constructions, guitar." It also features Jeff Rona, Michael Brook, Flea, Herbie Hancock, Alex Acuna, and Paulinho DaCosta.


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#967014 - 07/14/01 05:35 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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it's interesting that so many of the movies mentioned are released on DVD.

so, did we see them in the theater and form our opinions - or were our opinions shaped by having a decent audio presentation in our own homes?

fwiw - I haven't seen much in a cold dark room with strangers other than "Memento". In that movie, over the closing credits I think that there is a nice oblique reference to the construction metaphor. David Bowie from the cut-up lyric days. I was amused.

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#967015 - 07/14/01 06:22 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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hmmm..haven't been paying too much attention lately so if memory serves:

Music: The Mission (starring Jeremy Irons?)
SFX: The Cell (Starring j lopex)
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#967016 - 07/14/01 07:26 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Ry Cooder's stuff always is damn cool. O' brother gets my foot tapping big time. I hear ole Dan's putting out an album too, can't wait. I've always like Mark Isham's work, both solo albums and movie soundtracks.
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#967017 - 07/14/01 09:46 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bonafide:
I have been waiting VERY patiently to see 'The lord of the rings'.

Me, too...the previews look great. I have very high hopes for these movies. Hey, anything's gotta be better than the Bakshi version

the whole movie is shot in Europe

New Zealand. Peter Jackson directing. Check out the web site - it's very cool!

with mostly unknowns.

Some well known faces, though...Elijah Wood, Ian McKellan, Liv Tyler, Cate Blanchett, Christopher Lee, Sean Astin, Viggo Mortensen...

I'm really psyched...

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#967018 - 07/14/01 09:50 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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not new,
but the music in " the rock" will grab on and hold on. I've watched it over and over just for the music. Hans went the extra mile

As far as songs go, "notting hill" get two thumbs up. I can see the guys going "hunh, what's notting hill". It was a chick flick in 98 with julia and hugh grant.

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#967019 - 07/15/01 01:52 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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On the flip side, I thought that 'Castaway' brilliantly did not have much of a soundtrack. In fact, all of the music was standard background music until he hit the island. Then there was nothing until Wilson went away. When the music finally came in, it hit me like a ball-peen hammer!

And I have to also agree with everyone who mentioned "CrouTiHidDrag".
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#967020 - 07/15/01 03:08 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Dancer in the dark:
Face it Lars Von Trier can do more with a handful of digital camcorders a dedicated cast than most directors will with the greatest of budgets. I just think this film is cool because its a "musical" and stars bjork who works in a factory and fades into the world of music inspired by industrial noises. Its also cool because Von Trier goes and breaks most of his rules from the dogma school he founded, that is only using handheld camera's and only recording on location using natural lighting recording everything and just hammering away till the cast gets in "the zone". Also, his other work features no music. This film is a "musical":-)
However it lacks the power and depth of breaking the waves. Still, its very clever how the sound design of regular scenes is amplified to full blown tunes as bjork escapes her psychotic life. You owe it to yourself to rent this film.

Traffic of course. Also, Schizopolis is a trip. I dont even remember how the sound design and score is, but its just a whacky nutty piece of work. Soderberg is cool because he can just tell some dramatic thrilling story, and in a turn get very experimental.

Also, if your going to consider ghostdog I'd say check out another Jaramouche film, Dead Man. It has to be one of the most poetic films and scores I have ever heard featuring a very lyrical guitar from neil young. Also an influence of Jim Jaramouche is Werner herzog, I know its an old film, but Aguirre the Wrath of God has cool music:-) Dead Man though is a BRILLIANT film, much better than ghost dog.



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#967021 - 07/15/01 03:41 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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To nominate something where I think the soundtrack detracted from the emotional impact of the film, I'd choose "A.I." Like any thirtysomething, I was raised on Star Wars and hate to knock John Williams, but I'm from Vermont and that score was a bigger bucket of sap than I've ever seen hanging on any maple tree. Apart from the issue of whether the movie was good or bad, I just felt it needed something more minimalist in terms of a soundtrack. As it was, the predictable orchestral swells amounted to the film commanding the audience "OK, this is where you're supposed to feel bad for the little cybernetic boy again." A freakin' Danny Elfman soundtrack would've been an upgrade. (Don't get me wrong, I like his work and think that he's been perfect for every film he's scored.)
I agree with the positive comments about "Crouching Tiger." To mention a couple of classics, Vangelis' score for "Blade Runner" and Peter Gabriel for "Last Temptation of Christ." Love those.
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#967022 - 07/15/01 05:16 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Ghost Dog was good. I've been wanting to rent it again.

Where art thou was good, too.

American Beauty had me in love with the xylophone.

Castaway was totally awesome in it's use of silence. It made the island portion perfect. It was a deafining silence.

Proof Of Life had some good stuff going. The Van Morrison song at the end is perfect.

I love a good movie. I hate this shit that some movies do now, though. Where the movie is just a vehicle to sell the soundtrack. They just squeeze in little clips here and there. They are usually placed haphazardly. These types of soundtracks just detract. That is not a soundtrack. That is a fucking advertisment.
A soundtrack is supposed to provide emotional emphasis. A great soundtrack can make a good movie great.

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#967023 - 07/15/01 07:29 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Also an influence of Jim Jaramouche is Werner herzog, I know its an old film, but Aguirre the Wrath of God has cool music:-)
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Oh yeah! That's Popol Vuh on the soundtrack and the late great Klaus Kinski in the lead role.

Looks like Hollywood is taking a shot at Stanislaw Lem's "Solaris". I'm on edge about that one, because the original film by Tarkovsky has a fantastic soundtrack, by Edward Artemiev. At any rate it'll be great publicity for Lem- people have been enjoying popular works "influenced" (to use a euphamism) by Lem for half a century, time for the real thing.

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#967024 - 07/15/01 04:34 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Looks like Hollywood is taking a shot at Stanislaw Lem's "Solaris". I'm on edge about that one, because the original film by Tarkovsky has a fantastic soundtrack, by Edward Artemiev.


Allan Holdsworth would be great for that book. I haven't seen the Tarkovsy film, however...

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#967025 - 07/15/01 10:25 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Just saw Traffic- yip, good soundtrack, plenty of silent stretches, too. The music was the right "size" for the movie I think, it didn't Mickey Mouse the action or rely on cliched associations and basically just sounded good. The both-sides-of-the-coin/yin-yang/traffic-goes-in-both-directions theme of the film was really well done.


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Allan Holdsworth would be great for that book. I haven't seen the Tarkovsy film, however...



Adrien Belew for "Cybiriad" and Xenakis for "Invincible", yeah!

Tarkovsky's Solaris is probably my favorite movie, certainly has had the most effect on me of any film. The soundtrack is basically synth noisescapes and a Bach chorale prelude.

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#967026 - 07/16/01 06:16 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Originally posted by strat0124:
Ry Cooder's stuff always is damn cool.


I believe that Ry Cooder did the music for Southern Comfort, a film about Army Reserve weekend soldiers who tangle with the wrong group of Cajun trappers. It wasn't a hugely popular film, but it's riveting, and the music contributes a lot to the overall backwoods spookiness.

My all time fave soundtracks -

- (Any Fred Astaire or Gene Kelley movie)
- Psycho
- Ben Hur
- Hard Days Night
- The Graduate
- Easy Rider
- A Clockwork Orange
- The Pink Panther
- Shaft
- The Godfather
- Apocolypse Now
- Jaws
- Galipoli
- Chariots Of Fire
- Raiders Of The Lost Ark
- Risky Business
- The Blues Brothers
- The Mission
- Home Alone
- The Four Seasons (with Alan Alda)
- Romeo Is Bleeding
- Do The Right Thing
- Pump Up The Volume
- Terminator 2: Judgment Day
- The Crow
- Forrest Gump
- Apollo 13
- Romeo + Juliet (90's version with Leonardo di Caprio)
- The Full Monty
- Gladiator
- The Mummy Returns

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#967027 - 07/16/01 01:15 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Saw "Pearl Harbor" last night, soundtrack by Hans Zimmer. I have trouble listening to "just" the soundtrack, get too caught up in the movie, but if the music carries/reinforces the emotions, its good (I'm STILL drained from that movie).
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#967028 - 07/16/01 01:35 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Originally posted by jackpine:
I just saw "Brother where art thou" and I have to say that the music is almost another character in the movie. Could almost be considered a musical....but its not. The use of music in this movie is borderline genius.


Buy the soundtrack and read the exquisite liner notes. The music IS another character in the movie, at least in the opinion of the producers. I agree.

I saw Traffic and wholeheartedly agree with previous posters.

But the Holy Grail of sound on picture for me is... Snatch!

This movie must have come and gone so fast I didn't see a single commercial for it. We watched the DVD on the bus (when the gennie was working! Doh!) without the benefit of a decent listening environment or kick butt surround sound system. It still blew me away. They probably won't be spoken in the same breath with "Oscar" next year, but the visual and audio design and editing deserve that award. Hands down. No CG, no futuristic setting to create previously unknown sounds for, but this film is what we all should strive for when dealing with sound to picture.

And the movie is hilarious. If you liked Pulp Fiction and Get Shorty (a couple of other good soundtracks) you'll love this.

If you don't like Brad Pitt (If you flat out HATE Brad Pitt), you'll like him in THIS.

They should direct deposit to my checking account for this lovefest, but I swear, it's everything I've said and more.

Maybe it's all the English and Irish/English accents that are floating my boat...???

Older flicks: Parenthood has an excellent soundtrack (that can usually be had for cutout prices) that is recorded better than most. It's a surprisingly intimate sound for a full orchestra score. Music by Randy Newman. (He sure can write for picture.)

We also watched Forrest Gump. It was the first time I'd seen it since it was released. Great sound and visual.

Oh, yeah! My daughter Lilly's favorites (and mine as well).


    [*]Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory
    [*]The Jungle Book (the original, animated, version)
    [*]The Sound Of Music
    [*]The Music Man

    and last but not at all least,

    [*]The Nightmare Before Christmas - All hail Danny Elfman. This one is excellent! He sings Jack Skelington's voice, as well. (Chris Sarandon, Prince Humperdink in The Princess Bride, provides Jack's speaking voice.) Great voice casting.


Neil

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#967029 - 07/16/01 02:42 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I really liked the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack. It's a cool movie too. And whether or not you like Fight Club you can't deny that the music fits perfectly with the mood and visuals.

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#967030 - 07/16/01 03:14 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Slightly off-topic, but one beef I have with movie soundtrack albums is that the music tends to be too repetitive. If you're watching the film, you're not likely to notice that the "My Heart Will Go On" melody is repeated endlessly in the soundtrack for Titanic (although the soundtrack works great in the context of the film). However, if you listen to the soundtrack album from beginning to end, it sounds like one big commercial for the song...

Worse yet, some soundtracks don't play enough music from the movie. For example, I've seen Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon in the theater several times and noticed that the soundtrack album cut short the amazing drum-heavy music in the fight scenes. (They use that music at least twice in the film, and it only appears once in the soundtrack in a much-abbreviated version.)

Heck, I could've listened to 72 minutes of just the fight scene music. Anyone have any good CD recommendations for Asian drum music?



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#967031 - 07/16/01 05:06 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas had a great, micro-cassette recorder sound throughout that really added to the..... ambience of the movie, lent a great "documenting an idiotic disaster in the process" feel to it. Brave as well - I'm sure many people thought the squashed and fuzzy sound was a mistake....

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#967032 - 07/16/01 06:13 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Don't know much about current flicks, but movie music lovers have gotta know about the music of the great Bernard Herrmann: ominous, portentous, psychologically intense. Particularly recommended: his work for Hitchcock, (especially Vertigo), and his final score, for the film Taxi Driver.

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#967033 - 07/16/01 06:26 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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his work for Hitchcock, (especially Vertigo)


Vertigo -- yes, yes, yes!!! That's such a terrific score. The soundtrack holds up as a great piece of music even if you take it out of the film (which is still probably one of the greatest films ever made, IMHO )...

From what I've read, many of the old-time Hollywood composers started off with the intention of becoming "serious" classical composers, but ended up writing movie scores as a way to pay the bills... Which I think would account for the quality and sophistication of soundtracks like Vertigo... (I don't know enough about Bernard Hermann's career to say if that was definitely the case, but I'd have no doubt believing it probably was.)




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#967034 - 07/16/01 07:05 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Moulin Rouge...great sfx and music editing...great movie

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#967035 - 07/16/01 07:32 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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My favorite movie music moment so far this summer: Eddie Murphy as the Donkey in "Shrek" quoting Otis Redding's "Try a Little Tenderness". Had to play the original for the kids when we got home. For days, my 10, 7, and 5 year olds went around singing "you gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta try a little tenderness". Beats the hell out of the latest batch of teen pop.

Laughed through the movie so much that I don't remember much of the soundtrack. Unbelievably detailed animation. Hilarious. Mike Myers reprises his "if it's not Scottish, it's crap" accent.

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#967036 - 07/16/01 10:32 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Great tips, everyone. Now I'm armed and ready when I hit the video store...just rented Crouching Tiger etc.
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#967037 - 07/16/01 10:35 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Two really out there movies you might have missed...

Fellini's "Satyricon" had a truly different sound track; it's sort of primitive/furturistic at the same time. All acoustic instruments, but very unusual.

Then there's the infamous movie "Liquid Sky," which is plenty weird enough as is...but the soundtrack sounds like it was done by someone who had the chance to rent a Fairlight for a weekend and recorded everything he played, then put together the soundtrack. Weird science, indeed.
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#967038 - 07/16/01 10:38 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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If you liked "Spinal Tap," check out "The Big Picture" starring Kevin Bacon. It has the same kind of sensibility, but applied to the film industry. When he finally does the music video of "the Pez People"...well, I won't spoil it for you. It's an older movie, but you can find it at most rental stores, and it sometimes shows on the Independent Film Channel on cable or satellite. Two thumbs up.
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#967039 - 07/17/01 12:01 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I must like these the best, because I bought the CDs:

--Black Orpheus (amazing Carnaval field recordings and early bossa nova)
--Forbidden Planet (cybernetic "electronic tonalities" from 1956, the sound of circuits feeding back and burning out--a bit ahead of our time, let alone theirs. The union wouldn't let them call it music!)
--O Brother, Where Art Thou? ('nuff said already)

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#967040 - 07/17/01 01:37 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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"The Messenger" Eric Serra's score (who sings a lot like Peter Gabriel in "The Fifth Element" soundtrack) is lush. Much like an extra charachter.

"Traffic"
"Blade Runner"
"Birdy"
"Funny Bones"
"Grosse Point Blank"
"Silverado"
"Dr. Strangelove".................................................

Has anyone got "Big Trouble in Little China" on DVD. In the deleted scenes section they have scenes from the movie with the missing scenes added, sans music. Boring as shit. I never realised how much even bad music can add to a movie.

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#967041 - 07/17/01 02:28 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Kama Sutra, just about anything by Zbigniew Preisner(At play in the fields of the lord, Red, Bleu, Blanc, Secret garden, etc.), Restoration, anything by Vangelis. Mosquito Coast has a great soundtrack. The Year of living dangerously is incredible.

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#967042 - 07/23/01 08:49 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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After a long while, I went to the movies last weekend and I remembered all the time this thread.

JURASSIC PARK III. Oh man, I'm not sure what to say about the scoring (music) but the Sound FX were absolutely AWESOME. Same main theme, though.

PEARL HARBOR. I loved his music, but often times it reminded me to "TITANIC". It even has a chord progression and sounds very similar to the different versions used to score with the "My Heart will go on" mood... As a whole, it was a great experience.

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#967043 - 07/24/01 12:05 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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"The Messenger" Eric Serra's score (who sings a lot like Peter Gabriel in "The Fifth Element" soundtrack) is lush. Much like an extra charachter.


Who did the vocal in Serra's "Light of Love" from the Fifth Angel soundtrack? Great guitar hook in that, great/neat vocal performance - I've heard it was Milla Jovanovich, and it sounds like her, BUT... does anyone know?

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#967044 - 07/24/01 01:40 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Uh-oh...not another conversation about Pearl Harbor.

The soundtrack was fine...in moderation. Unfortunately the plot and emotion was so weak that they had to completely overscore the movie to try to get you to feel anything. I think there's like 4 hours of music in that 3 hour movie.

From the rental section:

The Firm - the Tom Cruise movie. The entire soundtrack is Dave Grusin on piano. I dug it, very much.

Run Lola Run - the quirky German movie. It's a great use of a very driving tempo electronic soundtrack. It's good "workout" music.

JFK - I'll go back to this one MANY times. Just listen to the corps of high tension snares that John Williams scored in during the Dealy Plaza incident.

Jungle Book - I'm in agreement with whoever said that! Between Louis Prima, Phil Harris and Sebastian Cabot you can't go wrong! One of Disney's best ever.

And are we really counting musicals? 'Cause if we are I'll rent Jesus Christ Superstar for the 347th time. This is Webber and Rice's best work ever, and the movie does it justice.


Those are my first thoughts........ As for new releases........enh?


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#967045 - 07/24/01 02:23 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I love those spagetti westerns....I've got brain lock cant remember
who did the music for those[Good the Bad and the Ugly]Enzio something
and the I just saw a movie on tape that was really good..Almost Famous
it remided me of the music I used to listen to as a kid

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#967046 - 07/24/01 02:25 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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The Firm - the Tom Cruise movie. The entire soundtrack is Dave Grusin on piano. I dug it, very much.
Nika.


I don't want to make this as the 96k thread... I just agree: "The Firm" soundtrack is a piece of art...
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#967047 - 07/24/01 02:28 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I love those spagetti westerns....I've got brain lock cant remember
who did the music for those[Good the Bad and the Ugly]Enzio something
Don


Ennio Morricone...his music for "The Mission" is legendary also.

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#967048 - 07/24/01 02:30 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Update...

This afternoon, a friend whom I visited played me a few passages from the soundtrack to the film "The Insider," which was an absolutely riviting film starring Al Pacino and Russel Crowe. I vaguely remember liking the music when I saw the film, but listening to it today I was just flabberghasted at how unique and intensly beautiful it is. I don't remember many specifics, besides that the singer from Dead Can Dance was a co-composer, and she sings beautifully as well, though very haunting. Highly recommended.

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#967049 - 07/24/01 03:19 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Quote:
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Update...

This afternoon, a friend whom I visited played me a few passages from the soundtrack to the film "The Insider," which was an absolutely riviting film starring Al Pacino and Russel Crowe. I vaguely remember liking the music when I saw the film, but listening to it today I was just flabberghasted at how unique and intensly beautiful it is. I don't remember many specifics, besides that the singer from Dead Can Dance was a co-composer, and she sings beautifully as well, though very haunting. Highly recommended.

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Good flick. Don't remember the music. I imagine it had to have been good..... the movie worked so well en total.
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#967050 - 07/24/01 05:47 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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This afternoon, a friend whom I visited played me a few passages from the soundtrack to the film "The Insider"


from http://us.imdb.com
Original music by
Pieter Bourke
Lisa Gerrard
Graeme Revell (additional music)

IMDb is an amazing resource for cross-linked cast and crew credits, plot summaries, production notes, trade awards and everything else that people who love movies love to impress each other with. The Insider is a film by Michael Mann. I think Mann really demonstrates the role a director can play in the score. Mann has always shown a real sensitivity to production and atmospherics, and that is why people like Brian Eno and Terje Rypdal carry an original music credit in "Heat" or Daniel Lanois in "Last of the Mohicans" or Jan Hammer in "Miami Vice" (of course!). The contribution that they make is apparent and rich, but they exist alongside the traditional scoring elements and cues. obviously he doesn't hire any slouches for that work either.

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#967051 - 07/30/01 03:43 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I rented "Snatch" tonight.

Guy Ritchie is a pretty good filmmaker, and the soundtrack/sound effects are very well done.

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#967052 - 07/30/01 02:01 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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It isn't going to win any Academy Awards, that's for sure, but the Fast and the Furious had some pretty intense sound effects and some cool dance/techno music. The race scenes really had me on the edge of my seat!

I also thought the music in Fight Club was cool. Razorfish too.

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#967053 - 08/01/01 11:20 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I went to see Final Fantasy last night. Holy mother of G, what a movie! Not only was the animation good enough to make me forget that it was animated, but the sound was completely amazing! This is a flick worth checking in the theatre.

And I enjoyed it, even though I've never played the video game. The buddies I were with have played just about all of them, so they were picking up on little things unique to the games that I would never notice.

Still, one of the coolest movies I've seen in a long time.

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#967054 - 08/07/01 02:15 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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PLANET OF THE APES...

Danny Elfman Rules in the score!
Awesome Sound Effects too.

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#967055 - 08/07/01 03:05 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Whomever that was in the film Dead Man Walking, doing the music for the crime scene flashbacks......it was absolutely chilling.
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#967056 - 08/07/01 04:24 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Whomever that was in the film Dead Man Walking, doing the music for the crime scene flashbacks......it was absolutely chilling.


It was indeed a very chilling movie. I know that Eddie Vedder had a part in the soundtrack. I know he was the vocalist on the title track (incoherent babblings and lou reed style singing), but I think he was involved musically in other ways as well.

There's a little Seattle music trivia from a Seattleite for ya'

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#967057 - 08/07/01 06:25 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I'm with Gus...

Jurass-has-HAD-it Park Three...I still like the original score. And you've got to see it in surround THX or whatever to feel the roar.

Actually, nice, silly, predictable movie...tons of fun. (Sings..."Poke Salad Annie...Raptor's gotcher granny, CHOMP, CHOMP, CHOMP...)
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#967058 - 08/07/01 06:45 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Wow..have to disagree on FF. Some sounds were WAY 'ultra-maximized', and the voices were all recorded in different studios (or sounded like it) so that when two people were talking to each other it didn't sound like they were in the same room what-so-ever.
POA I thought was excellent though. Of course not as great a score as the original.

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#967059 - 08/07/01 06:57 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I rented "Snatch" tonight.

Guy Ritchie is a pretty good filmmaker, and the soundtrack/sound effects are very well done.

Nika.


If you read my post on Snatch, you know how much I like this movie.

For me, the vibe created with different musical passages is very unique. For example, when Boris the Blade is on screen, there is an eerie, Russian melody drenched in reverb that preceeds him, much like the characters in Prokofiev's Peter in the wolf. Different themes sound with other characters.

It works very well with the editing style of the movie. High contrast between soft, spoken sections, with short, loud, tense pieces of music and quick edits to compress some action into a few seconds.

Interesting point about the Jungle Book. The original animated version was supposed to mimic the dark, sinister feel of the Kipling book. Disney changed his mind in the middle of production.

He hired different composers to accomplish the musical sound design. "The Bear Neccessities" is the only song from the original score that made the new cut. They were very smart to tap it and not scrap it, just because it was connected with the cancelled production.


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#967060 - 08/07/01 10:41 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Quote:
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Whomever that was in the film Dead Man Walking , doing the music for the crime scene flashbacks......it was absolutely chilling.


IMDb list the credits this way:
Original music by
Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
David Robbins
Patti Smith (song) (uncredited)
Bruce Springsteen
Tom Waits

The Eddie Vedder / Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan duet plays over the credits if I recall correctly. David Robbins is Tim Robbins brother, I think. Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan is amazing, soulful and dead.

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#967061 - 08/08/01 05:18 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I was reading through this to see if anyone mentioned Guy Ritchie's movies and saw fantasticsound beat to the punch with "Snatch".

Gotta throw in "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels". If you liked "Snatch" you'll like this one too. Great melding of music and visuals in both movies.

Another great musical moment for me is the scene in "Partriot Games" where the folks at CIA headquarters are standing around sipping coffee and watching, via satelite, a commando raid on a terrorist camp. A tense subtle underscore through the scene adds to the chill when one of the agents takes a sip and says "That... is a kill".



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#967062 - 08/08/01 05:34 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Yous all heard about this, right?...

"Apocalypse Now" is coming back to the theaters, recut, 3 hours and 16 minutes.

The sound of those choppers, blasting Wagner's "Ride Of The Valkyries"...oh, Lord, I can't wait to hear that in the theater.

The sound of that film is ...indescribable. You could be legally blind, and sit through that film in the theater, and know EXACTLY what's going on at every minute.

I'll go up that river with Martin Sheen ANY DAY!

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#967063 - 08/08/01 05:51 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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"Memories of Green" - Vangelis from the _Bladerunner_ soundtrack...

Michael Nyman's _The Piano_ soundtrack...



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#967064 - 08/08/01 11:34 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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"Apocalypse Now" is coming back to the theaters, recut, 3 hours and 16 minutes.


and even better, the whole Apocalypse Now Redux edit has been assembled by Walter Murch. Fresh Air ran a couple of shows on the rerelease last week. Murch played a couple of amazing sequences, including the hotel room. Murch is a huge talent and has influenced everyone who even thinks about film sound after him.

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#967065 - 08/19/01 03:13 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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I think someone already mentioned it, but the Final Fantasy movie has great audio. I just saw it in a 2nd run theater, and I had a very similar feeling after watching it as I did when I saw Tron back in 1982: It's not a great film, but WOW -- it's a film that's gonna be remembered as having opened up a whole new world of filmmaking.

I would not be surprised at all if the Star Wars sequels were completely computer-generated like Final Fantasy... By the time the prequels are done, I'd imagine this technology could be very close to seamless... They could have Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, and Princess Leia look like they hadn't aged a day since Return of the Jedi. Heck, the Phantom Menace was 90% computer generated -- I'd have no problem believing they might eventually go 100% computer generated should they decide to do some sequels.

Ah well, it's no Star Wars, but Final Fantasy is visually and aurally incredible. Catch it on the big screen if you still can.

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#967066 - 01/24/02 06:40 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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This was a cool thread a few months ago, and I thought It would be cool to see if anyone has some new favs. I would add Swordfish to the list. Some great sound FX, and camera work. Also, there is a new Tombstone DVD that is done in DTS that sounds great. Anybody added some favorites to their list?

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#967067 - 01/24/02 06:50 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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#967068 - 01/24/02 07:00 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Just to name a few. Some old, some new.

Tin Cup
Oh Brother Where Art Thou (of course)
Heavens Gate
The Ballad of Cable Hogue
Cat Ballou
Jeremiah Johnson
Deliverance


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#967069 - 01/24/02 09:29 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Here are my all-time fave soundtracks.

The Robe....Alfred Newman
Spartacus....Alex North
Bobby Deerfield....Dave Grusin
Glory....James Horner
The Red Violin...John Corigliano
Gladiator....Hans Zimmer
The Patriot....John Williams

These are all original works commissioned specifically for their films. While I have a soft spot for some compilation soundtracks(O Brother Where Art Thou being my runaway favorite),I have often believed they would be the death of real soundtrack composition. I discovered that I loved music through the movies and I have been delighted to see the resurgence of this art-form.

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#967070 - 01/24/02 09:42 PM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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So many choices - almost impossible.

The Insider did have a great score. Especially the scene where he is deciding whether or not to testify in court.

Anything by Danny Elfman is great.

Killing Zoe - this movie featured some nice electronic Drums -n- Bass type stuff (which hadn't really been used too much in the early 90s - when the film came out.)

As far as sound design/sound effects, I just saw Black Hawk Down (BTW, the best book you'll ever read and a great movie to boot!) The guns, grenades, helicopters, explosions, etc... were all amazing and a must to see on the big screen.

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#967071 - 01/25/02 04:48 AM Re: Heard Any Good Movies Lately?
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Update...

This afternoon, a friend whom I visited played me a few passages from the soundtrack to the film "The Insider," which

how unique and intensly beautiful it is. I don't remember many specifics, besides that the singer from Dead Can Dance was a co-composer, and she sings beautifully as well, though very haunting. Highly recommended.


Lisa Gerrard. Did _Gladiator_ with Hans Zimmer. It's funny how many people refer to "The Insider" as being a good movie, when it was a "nothing" at the box office, right?

Another example of the entertainment industry missing their own boat.
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