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AREA 51 What in the hell does our government have out there? ALL presidents and the 9th circuit court of appeals(has jurisdiction)have ALWAYS left this place alone. The Gov. denies it exist and you can ride up and look at the damn place. So I ask again, what is out there?
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it's comical the way it is denied that the place exists, yet there are pictures, video, etc...

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Think about it, why does the federal gov. leave nevada alone? Gambling, hookers, whatever. It is a "you dont f*ck with me, and I wont mess with you" type thing. Does the state still get Federal funding even though they wont conform to federal law? Nevada has a very interesting history.
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Definitly some testing they would like to keep underwraps. In 1998 the Groom Lake area was exempted from Federal Environmental laws by Executive Order by Clinton...I imagine they've poisoned the land up there pretty bad...you can only wonder if it's had any effect on the rest of the state...[b]or country[/b]. (??)
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CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON , all you guys ever bring up is clinton. :D . If he didnt have his OWN show once a week, maybe he would not get brought up all of the time. Persaonally, I wish he would go away. Yes, his own show, once a week on 60 minutes. Starting this sunday. LOOK OUT!
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HAHAHAHA!!! yeah I shouldn't have said Clinton seeing how that name freaks people out for whatever reason :) I should have just said "by the President" But regardless...I imagine he had little to do with it...he signed because that's what Presidents do...they sign stuff that people who "know better" tell them to sign. Military secrets have to be protected...partly for National Security and partly because there would be riots in the streets if the general public had full knowledge of what their tax dollars are spent on.
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Personally, I think it's fairly obvious ... it's a HUGE conspiricy involving, but not limited to the following: Aliens; The entire Bush family; Bush's baked beans; The Kennedy assasinations; Jim Nieghbors(sp?); The Cuban missle crisis; Kermit the frog; Watergate; That guy over there with the shifty eyes; Contra gate; Crop Circles; Nevada; prostitutes and gambling; The New York/New Jersey Mafia(but I didn't tell you that); Jerry Springer; The Lindberg baby; Kukla, Fran and Ollie; Cotton Mather; Alfred the Great, the last Saxon King of England; Charlemegne; Steely Dan; Orville Redenbocker, Sr.; Racer X; That big, glowing orange thing in the sky; ELVIS; Paul McCartney and the "eggman"; Deep Throat; Lynda Lovelace; ET; George Orwell; Machiovelli; J. P. Sartre; Elle McPherson; and finally, [b]Kevin Bacon[/b] and anyone who knows him, worked with him, or can be connected to him in 7 steps or less.
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[quote]Originally posted by Sylver needs a new ...: [b]Personally, I think it's fairly obvious ... it's a HUGE conspiricy involving, but not limited to the following: Aliens; The entire Bush family; Bush's baked beans; The Kennedy assasinations; Jim Nieghbors(sp?); The Cuban missle crisis; Kermit the frog; Watergate; That guy over there with the shifty eyes; Contra gate; Crop Circles; Nevada; prostitutes and gambling; The New York/New Jersey Mafia(but I didn't tell you that); Jerry Springer; The Lindberg baby; Kukla, Fran and Ollie; Cotton Mather; Alfred the Great, the last Saxon King of England; Charlemegne; Steely Dan; Orville Redenbocker, Sr.; Racer X; That big, glowing orange thing in the sky; ELVIS; Paul McCartney and the "eggman"; Deep Throat; Lynda Lovelace; ET; George Orwell; Machiovelli; J. P. Sartre; Elle McPherson; and finally, [b]Kevin Bacon[/b] and anyone who knows him, worked with him, or can be connected to him in 7 steps or less.[/b][/quote]Too bad it's all true.
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[quote]Originally posted by C.M.: [b]Think about it, why does the federal gov. leave nevada alone? Gambling, hookers, whatever. It is a "you dont f*ck with me, and I wont mess with you" type thing. Does the state still get Federal funding even though they wont conform to federal law? Nevada has a very interesting history.[/b][/quote]---------Amendment X----------- The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
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Best t-shirt ever: "Area 51 -- I wasn't there, and I didn't see anything. But I DO have a t-shirt."

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Aliens don't exist...but fantastic stories are incredibly effective..the crazier the story the more likely people will believe it. It's always blown me away how people get so uptight about NASA budgets, somehow the huge budget for "Top Secret projects" is all but ignored every year. Where does all that money go? Who's accountable? I don't know how much money it was this last year but last time I read about it, it was in the Billions (per year).
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It's the alien mafia. That's what it is. A big casino and brothel with three boobed Rigelian hookers, up there in the desert. There are also near-spy-quality satellite photos of the area available on the web somewhere. Oh...that plane in the pic is not an SR-71...it's a U2. Can't you tell? That's Bono in the cockpit.
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by Tedster: [code] That's Bono in the cockpit. [/code]That made my day :D Seems like we all agree Area 51 is very real indeed, should we mark the calender? ;) Anyways, I'd love to get inside there and see all the latest technology, and hang with Kevin Bacon :p Actually, I might get to work there someday...
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[quote]Originally posted by C.M.: [b]What about HOFFA?[/b][/quote]It is well known, by people in the know, that Hoffa was actually killed in a bizzare and unfortunate meat packing accident that involved a chiuahua in a tu-tu, white wine spritzers, and the Rockettes. Some people in the NY/NJ area still refer to "Jimmy Burgers". His family made up his mob-related dissapearance to avoid any embarassing questions.
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[quote]Originally posted by C.M.: [b]Think about it, why does the federal gov. leave nevada alone? Gambling, hookers, whatever. It is a "you dont f*ck with me, and I wont mess with you" type thing. Does the state still get Federal funding even though they wont conform to federal law? Nevada has a very interesting history.[/b][/quote]Leave us alone? They are currently making it a nuclear toilet and dis-allowing ranchers grazing rights on BLM land that has been the norm for years. And I would definitely say that gambling is no longer isolated to Nevada, as new jurisdictions (most recently New York) are allowing gambling under the "indian gaming" logo. Nevada does have an interesting history, though...
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[quote] Leave us alone? They are currently making it a nuclear toilet and dis-allowing ranchers grazing rights on BLM land that has been the norm for years. And I would definitely say that gambling is no longer isolated to Nevada, as new jurisdictions (most recently New York) are allowing gambling under the "indian gaming" logo. [/quote]Good point. :thu:
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[quote]Originally posted by techristian: [b]I heard from reliable sources that they are making clones of Bill Clinton and Jetro Bodine there! Dan http://musicinit.com/pvideos.html [/b][/quote]Where did you hear that? It's total nonsense. Whoever told you that was on drugs. Or lying. Or a member of the Taliban. Just remain calm when the guys in black suits and sun glasses come to your door. They only want to [i]talk[/i].
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[quote]Originally posted by Stephen LeBlanc: [b]Aliens don't exist...but fantastic stories are incredibly effective..the crazier the story the more likely people will believe it. It's always blown me away how people get so uptight about NASA budgets, somehow the huge budget for "Top Secret projects" is all but ignored every year. Where does all that money go? Who's accountable? I don't know how much money it was this last year but last time I read about it, it was in the Billions (per year).[/b][/quote]The problem is that in such a huge government budget... a few billions here and there for "black" projects is barely a "rounding error"... BTW, on the subject of "aliens"... I recal there was a study done by the Rand Corporation that evaluated the ramifications of contact with an alien species that could travel to earth. There were something like 29 categories that would be affected... the vast majority were negative and the prediction was that it would be quite destablizing... At this point the "powers that be" echo Jack Nicolson's famous line... "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"... Even IF there WERE aliens... we'd never get to know about it. :freak: guitplayer

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Somebody say something about aliens...? Actually, the Clinton signing was in response to a lawsuit by some Area 51 workers who were/are experiencing some SERIOUS medical problems. To me, there is something very wrong about a place that has to burn ALL their trash. From paper to vehicles. National security or not, incinerating everything can't be good...and according to most sources, it's not. Besides, who are we protecting these "skunkworks" from? Iraq and North Korea? They can't build the refrigerators in some of that stuff. Anywayz, the government did indeed admit to Area 51 existing a few years ago. Of course, after that, most of the operations were moved to Utah. Also, Russia has it's own version of Area 51. I'm sure China does, too. Oddly enough, they all seem to be working on the same thing. Peace
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[quote]Originally posted by C.M.: [b]The Gov. denies it exist and you can ride up and look at the damn place. So I ask again, what is out there?[/b][/quote]You can't anymore, the government bought up all of the remaining land around it so you can't see it at all anymore. What's more interesting is why there's 100X more security out there than there is at SRS. You've got all sorts of nuclear material available at SRS, what could be more prized? Not airplane research. There's no point in hiding the plane. There isn't another country on the planet that could do anything with the information. It's why they pulled the wraps off the B2 and the F117 - the Russians are broke, they can't make them. China doesn't have the technology - it doesn't matter. The military has a multiple-mach scramjet plane - it's been tracked by earthquake sensors flying to Europe and back, but it doesn't land at Groom Lake. Not that they should bother hiding it, it's not like the technology is some big breakthrough, just expensive to develope. The Defense Department launches dozens of "something" from Vandenburg into orbit every year... No secret there, except "what are they sending up?" aside from innumerable spy sattellites... Most of the shuttle missions have been classified... They also test ground based high energy weapons more or less out in the open, so that's not it either. A lot goes on in the government that is secret *beyond* the typical black project/skunkworks development. Anti-gravity device; that would warrant that. Invisibility testing: some things are supposed to come out next year to cloak tanks based on surface coatings that can be programmed to change color. You wouldn't want people to look out over Groom Lake and suddenly see a tank battalion materialize out of thin air. I would say something like that is most probable, it would be a natural outgrowth of the stealth program - it HAD to be an adjunct to it, they wouldn't want JUST radar invisibility. With technology available now with flexible light emitting surface coatings, it would be pretty easy to hide something like a tank or airplane even in broad daylight if you matched the luminance of the surroundings right. But that's too simple and primitive. You don't need a place *that* big to do that. And again - maybe the French could eventually copy the technology and sell it to terrorists, but it wouldn't hide things from satellite IR and other spectra, so it wouldn't be that big of a deal to keep secret. Only the U.S. could afford to outfit a large number of tanks, soldiers, or whatever with it, anyhow. Or maybe it's just a really big cold war feint; "who knows what the U.S. really has?"... "Aliens" fits the part perfectly, but we don't really know so "oh well". Great fun to speculate about, though.

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