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#9544 - 07/20/05 05:07 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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Originally posted by TinderArts:
He was one of the finest drummers that's ever played. Now, IMHO, he's the epitome of commercial crap. When do you think Phil lost it?
It was someplace in the late 70s, I think, along about the time he realized he could get big hits with bland, upbeat versions of old soul hits.

A couple times, I've caught myself making a big distinction between Gabriel's Genesis and Genesis after Phil stepped in to take his place. And there was a big diffrence -- but it wasn't necessarily all qualitative.

The early PC Genesis mades some heartbreakingly lovely music, if I recall correctly.

I'll admit I can't remember their lyrics all that well... I think by then I'd realized it was often better to ignore the words in a lot of pop music if everything else was okay... as a consequence, I've occasionally been caught up short by just how good the words were in a few songs I'd long liked in a vague and general way.

(Of course, usually it goes the other way. I loved "Night Fever" in a pop confection kind of way... it seemed to somehow communicate an air of adventure and abandon... and then I ended up with a Bee Gees songbook in my lap with the notion of maybe covering the song. With the lyrics there in black and white and -- separated from the BG's trademark gelded chipmunk falstto vox -- now comprehensible, I was taken aback. The lyrics were... STOOPID with a capital "OO"... anyhow, I, as always, digress.)


At any rate, after a couple warmed over Motown leftovers and, as I recall, a stint hosting various lame TV shows, I pretty much wrote him off.

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#9545 - 07/20/05 05:35 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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Originally posted by Jeff Da Weasel:
The "Phil Sucks" thread. Ah, good memories.

- Jeff
Yeah, I wanted to bring it back before the move.

BTW, when I first met Jeff (at a NAMM show), I walked into the Tascam booth, saw his name tag and asked "How long has Phil Collins sucked?" True story.

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#9546 - 07/20/05 06:05 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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Originally posted by TinderArts:
BTW, when I first met Jeff (at a NAMM show), I walked into the Tascam booth, saw his name tag and asked "How long has Phil Collins sucked?" True story.
It is true! I was a little scared that it was a Phil Collins hitman who'd come to take me out, but it turned out to be Bill. Most every time we've seen each other since, we have a Phil Collins dig or two to share.

See? Ripping on Phil Collins brings us all closer together. It's a common bond shared by all mankind, except for Dan South. \:D

- Jeff

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#9547 - 07/20/05 06:17 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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He has sucked longer than Fountains of Wayne, but maybe not as hard.
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#9548 - 07/21/05 10:37 AM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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Originally posted by Jeff Da Weasel:
[QUOTE]Ripping on Phil Collins brings us all closer together. It's a common bond shared by all mankind, except for Dan South. \:D

- Jeff
Maybe Phil Collins will bring us world peace through his suckiness. \:D \:D \:D \:D

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#9549 - 07/21/05 11:15 AM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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It would crack me up if Phil decided to drop in and comment on this thread himself. \:D
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#9550 - 07/21/05 12:29 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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Someone needs to send this url to Phil's website. He doesn't have long to defend himself.

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#9551 - 07/21/05 12:35 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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i woke up this morning and phil collins was rummaging around in my head. i rounded up some tough guys and we beat him good. goodfellas good.

satchmo was a madman, he just kept kicking and kicking phil in the ribs. django finally had to pull him off. lennon just stood there dumbfounded by all the violence.

that pussy won't be messing with me anymore.

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#9552 - 07/21/05 12:44 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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The answer to the question, "How long has Phil Collins sucked?" is the time from about 5 minutes after he released his first solo album until now...and counting.

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#9553 - 07/21/05 01:03 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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How can you slam a guy who is so obvious an influence on Micheal Bolton?


I mean, they're giants.
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#9554 - 07/21/05 02:15 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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That's why you wanted to jam on Sussudio!!!

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#9555 - 07/21/05 02:49 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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I guess I'll never understand what so many of you have against Phil Collins. I maintain that Phil has released music I've hated and music I've loved.. pretty much like 80% of everything I hear.

The guy's a high energy performer, a fine actor (I don't know what you saw him in, but his guest spots on shows like Miami Vice were hilarious and there was at least one dramatic movie he starred in that was universally praised. Not a bad hobby for a professional musician.

I haven't bought a lot of his albums, either. I just don't get where you place him in the same, musical, league as, say, Brittany Spears and Ashlee Simpson.

Whatever.. if it makes you feel good to bash a guy for getting rich and famous playing a lot of good music with excellent musicians then I'm certainly not going to change your mind.
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#9556 - 07/21/05 11:08 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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Sussudio - Ack!! \:o
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#9557 - 07/21/05 11:37 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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Originally posted by fantasticsound:
Whatever.. if it makes you feel good to bash a guy for getting rich and famous playing a lot of good music with excellent musicians then I'm certainly not going to change your mind.
I would never bash Phil for those things! How dare you!

I only bash him for sucking.

- Jeff

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#9558 - 07/22/05 07:32 AM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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Neil, I started this thread shorty after 9/11 because all the posts on SSS were about 9/11 issues. It was time to get back to music issues (see Khan's post on page 1).

One good thing Phil has done recently was sitting in with Genesis tribute band "The Musical Box". On that night he had a suck reprieve.

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#9559 - 07/22/05 07:39 AM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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A "Momentary Lapse of Suckage"?
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#9560 - 07/24/05 05:42 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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If only for a song...

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#9561 - 07/24/05 05:57 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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#9562 - 07/24/05 05:58 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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#9563 - 07/24/05 11:55 PM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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Hey! Where's my post? Doh! I posted hours ago!

Nevermind. :rolleyes:
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#9564 - 07/25/05 08:25 AM Re: How long has Phil Collins sucked?
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The suck stops here.

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