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#763603 - 12/21/06 12:30 PM If you play out, buy this
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#763604 - 12/21/06 12:37 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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#763605 - 12/21/06 12:42 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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Me too! 09???
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#763606 - 12/21/06 01:01 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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the site utilizes cookies. it won't take you to the shirt until you've actually seen it. search for "t-qualizer" and you will see the clever badassedness inside. one size only, though. sorry the fat guys and to the skinny guys.

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#763607 - 12/21/06 01:17 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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Man, I'm not fat....I'm just a hundred pounds overweight:)
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#763608 - 12/21/06 01:17 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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Wow, that looks really neat. Too bad they don't have any real pictures to offer.

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#763609 - 12/21/06 01:18 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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Very cool. If it came in a real size I'd get one.

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#763610 - 12/21/06 01:18 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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Wow! When am I next going to the States?
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#763611 - 12/21/06 02:04 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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cool, but who wears a large? I am not that big and I wear an extra large!
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#763612 - 12/21/06 02:18 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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.....need a medium

(size, not ghost)
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#763613 - 12/21/06 04:05 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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maybe i should start another thread, but i used to think to myself, "who really wears a large, anyway?"

i also used to weigh as much as 280 pounds at six feet tall. i now hover around 205 -- usually a little less, but during the holidays, a little more. i often wear large shirts. sometimes the XL tshirts are small, but more often they're roomy or too big.

i used to think that clothing sizes were out of whack and not realistic. i realize now that i was out of whack and not realistic.

i'm not sorry if this offends you, attacks you, or sounds preachy to you. it is meant to. you are fooling yourself if you think XL is not a big garment. i used to be huge; i'm still fat, but less so. and i've learned about myself, health, weight, and american culture through my own changes. if anyone has a right to say what i'm saying, it's me.

that is a clever shirt, and i hope it fits me. if it doesn't fit you, maybe you should be thinking about losing weight in the new year.

robb.
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#763614 - 12/21/06 05:32 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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OOOkay.... Sorry 09 I have to respond to that. I go to the gym 3 times a week and also am in manual labor for my job. I have two young girls that keep me active as well as my wife and band. I can run, swim, play basketball or whatever with anybody and not tire out.

I'm fat!

That's great that you lost weight and keep it off.

I am so busy that I don't have time to eat healthy. I bet you've heard that before. It is one of the lamest excuses that I have ever heard.
I choose to eat what I want. But you know what, my blood pressure is fine, my cholesterol levels are okay, I don't need a handicap sticker because my big fat you know what can't make it from the car to the all you can eat buffet from across the parking lot, my knees are great and I feel great. Its not a free for all for what I eat but my weight never seems to change.

So robb. what is your issue with fat people? Maybe we are comfortable with who we are. It seems to me that you have more issues with us bigger people than we have with you.

Oh....and for the record, I am not offended or feel that I am being preached to. I am just sick of people thinking that because someone has a belly or is chubby is obviously a walking heart attack or a drain on the healthcare system.

That is a cool shirt...too bad they don't make one for us lardos.

Shane
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#763615 - 12/21/06 05:37 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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How do you wash it after a sweaty gig?

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#763616 - 12/21/06 05:38 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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You can get more sizes and whatnot over at thinkgeek.com . I love that website. Sadly I own several things from it. Like the "<#include beer.h>" pint glasses...
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#763617 - 12/21/06 05:51 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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I prefer to think of myself as circumferentially gifted, and well qualified to participate in this thread, at a svelte 240 on a less-than-willowy 5' 10" frame. I took robb's comment as directed at our lifestyle on a national level and not as a personal insult. I see what you're getting at fingertalkin', I have low BP and cholesteral, took a boxing class with my 19 yr old son this summer and am going for a five mile hike with my 19 yr old daughter, but just because I can carry the weight doesn't mean I should. I've been down to 205 though, and my wife thought I was gaunt.
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#763618 - 12/21/06 07:00 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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I agree with you that I shouldn't carry the weight. And I didn't take it personally. Just saying that not every fat person is a lazy slob.

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#763619 - 12/21/06 08:08 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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Originally posted by fingertalkin:
So robb. what is your issue with fat people? Maybe we are comfortable with who we are. It seems to me that you have more issues with us bigger people than we have with you.
shane -- i'm still fat. i have serious doubts that that shirt will fit me. the only issue i have is that i wish people could reach the point sooner rather than later where they can't take it anymore. when i went up to 280 and realized that, were i in high school, i was too heavy to wrestle (heavyweight is limited at 275), i reached my point. i couldn't allow myself to gain more weight. it took six years of effort from that point (not to mention the six years before that of losing and gaining weight) to actually be able to put it together. but i never gave up, and i've been able to take control of my eating, my weight, my body, and my life.

i was always athletic and always able to compete, despite my size. but now that i have lost some weight, i realize how much more effective i can be at sports, and how much more fun i have, and how much longer i can play.

so my issue is that everyone is unique and has to come to that conclusion on their own. no one can force someone to realize they need to do something about their weight. i wish more people could feel the joy that i have felt from being able to walk into a store and pick up any style of jeans and try them on, confident that they'll fit, clothes that i never would have been able to fit into at any previous point in my life. i wish more people could feel that.

and having reached the point where i had to change and finally losing a lot of weight, i see the world differently. i see how many grown adults fit into small and medium shirts, and how i now wear large dress shirts. i'm still a big guy. if i wear size large, there is nothing unrealistic about the sizes of clothing in this country.

but it's good to hear there are more sizes elsewhere. it's a cool shirt.

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#763620 - 12/21/06 08:18 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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Cool shirt no matter what.
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#763621 - 12/22/06 04:39 AM Re: If you play out, buy this
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Oh, that is so cool! (Or am I just being a geek?)
Alex

P.S. Regarding the weight thing, we've had the misfortune of three of our online bass brothers passing before their time and all three of them were overweight and died from heart related problems. Maybe a coincidence but it worries me...

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#763622 - 12/22/06 05:17 AM Re: If you play out, buy this
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It's all good robb. I am very glad that you came to the realization of what you needed to do. Carrying extra weight is not healthy and I am not trying to make it seem so. My wife keeps me in check with my eating. Well, more what I eat. I watch every morsel of food that my kids put into their mouths. One daughter is tall and very slender. The other is tall and chubby. They eat the same, and do the same activities.

To sum up what I am not so eloquently putting is that I am more of a realist. I understand that being overweight is not healthy. Am I too over weight? Yes. Can or should I do something about it? Yes. I love food. I just need to love it a little less.

Shane
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#763623 - 12/22/06 11:49 AM Re: If you play out, buy this
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My 2 cents:

I'm not overweight at 6'2" I way 185lb. I spent late Summer and the Fall eating smaller portions and exercising. I've lost 14lbs and have put quite a bit of muscle back on.

Now to my point:
Since early High School, I've always bought XL shirts. Did I buy them because of my weight??? No. I bought them because my arms are 37" long and my shoulders are pretty wide. Buying an XL shirt has nothing to do with how much I weigh. It's about them fitting me across my shoulders, chest, and down my arms. It is very rare for me to find a Large shirt that will fit. While I'm no hulking maniac, XL shirts almost always fit me better than a Large, to the point that I don't even bother trying on Large sized shirts anymore. That's my preference.

robb, congratulations on loosing that weight. You've done what most people can't do: Loose the weight AND THEN keep it off.
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#763624 - 12/22/06 12:40 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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I want the sound guy at every gig I play at to wear one on those shirts.

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#763625 - 12/22/06 03:09 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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As a formerly fat guy who lost the weight, I sympathize with robb's sentiments, but I also have shoulders and chest better suited to a certain cut of shirt.
From some makers, it's a large, from others it's an xl, and I even have a couple of Gap shirts in xxl. Go figure.
Perhaps, like the "p or j" discussion, it's not about broad generalities, but rather individualities of type. Some clothes are cut differently from others, and fit people differently. Simple as that.

Interestingly, for several years now many clothing manufacturers have been altering the cuts of their clothing, but not the tags, so medium or large tags often go into clothes that would have been xl or xxl years ago.
Corporately massaging egos in the name of sales.

Buy what fits you and be as healthy as you can without going nuts. That's what I say.

Peace,

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#763626 - 12/23/06 02:08 PM Re: If you play out, buy this
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Kool shirt, but I doubt it'll fit me either. I've worn XL for years. Yes, I'm fat but not as much as I used to be. I'm 5'6" and currently 215lbs but I have been as high as 248.

I work at a very physical job and bust my behind every day. My eating habits aren't wonderful but I've been working on that as I don't want my fmily history of heart troubles and type II diabetes to catch up with me. My chorlesterol is very good but my BP has always been slightly high, about 140/90, even when I was 136lbs after basic training 20+ years ago (I was 5'4" then too, late bloomer).

I have worn XL for years now as I am heavy-boned and broad-shouldered and am built more like a barrel then a pear. Even if I continue to lose more weight it won't change my enherent broadness so I will still probably need XL anyways. Long sleeves are a pain though as my arms are short so long sleeved shirts that fit my body tend to hang off my arms.

I just got a good deal on a mountain bike so next summer I will be using it a lot. I'd like to get down to about 160 or so though.

Quote:
Originally posted by wraub:
Buy what fits you and be as healthy as you can without going nuts. That's what I say.
I think that wraps it up nicely.

Cheers
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