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#720878 - 02/02/06 11:06 AM Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Bootsy has a new signature bass,and it's made by Traben/Michael Kelly/OLP.



Big Traben-like shooting star bridge & inlays
Custom Aguilar 18v pre
Quarter Pounders (J)
Manufacturer's retail price is $1,290 for the four-string version and $1,430 for the five-string.

OK, my complaint: If you are going to have a press release like this on the web, you should also have the info ready to go on your own website. They have this thing called the Internet now, and companies should really get on board in terms of logistics just in case, you know, it's not just a fad or something.
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#720879 - 02/02/06 11:49 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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I saw the Bootsy bass at NAMM and was greatly disappointed. How can it be a Bootsy model if it is not star-shaped and have 4 or 5 pickups? (I can't remember the number at the moment).

I complained to the booth bunny who of course had no idea what I was talking about.

Three years ago Washburn made a Bootsy Space bass which did have a similar appearance to the real space bass, but it only had two pickups. They said they were only going to make 100 of them so it would be a "true collector's item."
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#720880 - 02/02/06 12:29 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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i doubt bootsy is ever going to play it. he'll probably just have it on stage when he plays shows.

They're probably just giving him a lot of money.

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#720881 - 02/02/06 12:35 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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I'm not buying one unless it comes with the glasses, a tophat and a diaper.

Funny, that's what I said about my car, too.
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#720882 - 02/02/06 01:12 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Bootsy didn't wear a diaper...that was Gary Shider. Andre Foxxe wore the wedding dress.

And Bootsy was.......Bootsy.
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#720883 - 02/02/06 01:41 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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I just want a diaper.
It has nothing to do with Bootsy.
I'm just saying that basses should come with diapers.
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#720884 - 02/02/06 01:44 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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#720885 - 02/02/06 01:49 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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#720886 - 02/02/06 01:56 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Post of the Day goes to NUTT.
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#720887 - 02/02/06 01:58 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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\:D i definitely agree. \:D with maury.

jason
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#720888 - 02/02/06 02:06 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by CMDN:
I just want a diaper.
It has nothing to do with Bootsy.
I'm just saying that basses should come with diapers.
LOL!
thanks, i needed that.
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#720889 - 02/02/06 02:07 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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aaaaaaaaaaaaah yes, the BROWN NOTE! \:D
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#720890 - 02/02/06 04:07 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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You know, I've been hearing great things about this new "Internet" thing.

I think I'll print off a copy so I can read it over the weekend.

\:D

Agree though -- it's goofy in this day and age not to have your stuff up on your Web site pronto. It takes like five minutes.
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#720891 - 02/02/06 04:22 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by CMDN:
I just want a diaper.
It has nothing to do with Bootsy.
I'm just saying that basses should come with diapers.
I don't know. I think Eric nailed it with this one. Sheer genius, I tell you. This is my post of the day.
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#720892 - 02/02/06 04:59 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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I'm disappointed in this new Bootsy signature bass. As Jeremy pointed out, it's not star-shaped and it doesn't have 5 pickups. It's good to see Bootzilla getting endorsement deals (and money) but come on. The limited edition knock off of Casper that Washburn made a while back was equally bad, even though it was at least similar to the real deal. Ed Roman had one at his shop the last time I was in Vegas (Washburn one). He was asking $3500 for it.

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Post of the Day goes to NUTT.
Absolutely. Brilliant post.
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#720893 - 02/02/06 05:38 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by getz76:
Post of the Day goes to NUTT.
Indeed.
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#720894 - 02/03/06 09:05 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Here's my thinking. The internet is important. But I've heard of companies spending their time perfecting their product for a trade show, and the advertising (in all it's forms) lags a bit. And while it's a shame, I kinda understand it.

As to the bass itself, I agree with the yawns. Although the Traben bridge concept would seem to be Bootsy's style, it seems the bass is "less" than it should be, for more money than it's worth.

I learned one more thing - not to ride in the car when CMDN drives. Either he's gonna "make use" of the diaper, or drive so that I have to.

Tom
P.S. In fact I have actually ridden in a moving vehicle with Erik behind the wheel and it was fine - diapers not required.
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#720895 - 02/03/06 09:18 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Madball, I don't wanna hear anything about my driving from a guy who admits that his nuts are 1/4" smaller then he thought they were.

Besides, don't you already wear diapers?
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#720896 - 02/03/06 01:34 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Oh sure - throw it out all over the 'net. Thanks a lot!

Are we off-topic yet?

Tom
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#720897 - 08/09/06 01:56 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Just because it's there:
Traben Bootzilla

;\)
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#720898 - 08/09/06 04:13 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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OK, they're not even trying anymore.

Look at this new model's bridge:



It's like the scrap pieces from all the other bridges.
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#720899 - 08/09/06 05:38 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by 09:
OK, they're not even trying anymore.

Look at this new model's bridge:



It's like the scrap pieces from all the other bridges.
Meh, that's not a good design. Tacky, tacky, tacky. My '94 P bass can whip that bass's @$$. :p
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#720900 - 08/09/06 09:51 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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It looks like this year's high school Metal Shop project screwed onto last year's high school Wood Shop B.C. Rich Eagle inspired project.

I'd give the Eagle ripoff a B and the bridge a trip to summer school.

But if it sounds and plays alright, I guess it really doesn't matter.

Peace,

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#720901 - 08/10/06 04:37 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by 09:
OK, they're not even trying anymore.

Look at this new model's bridge:



It's like the scrap pieces from all the other bridges.
Goodbye stickers, welcome fridge magnets.
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#720902 - 08/10/06 04:49 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Surely you wouldn't put a fridge magnet on such a quality instrument! That would shoot it's resale value straight into the basement!!

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#720903 - 08/10/06 07:12 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Not diggin' Traben at all! Make them go away!
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#720904 - 08/10/06 08:35 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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that bridge is so big, it's like, how much more big could this be? and the answer is none. none more big.

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#720905 - 08/10/06 10:12 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Just think, in 20 or 30 years we'll be on this forum carping and moaning about has Flea had the audacity to put a refrigerator magnet on a classic instrument such as that, and that is a crying shame, and he should be locked up, and how we should give that thing to someone who really knows how to take care of such a wonderful, classic instrument.

... let me tell you about the big, plastic letter Z on this part of the bridge...
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#720906 - 08/10/06 10:35 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Personally, I think whole "signature" anything is kinda silly. It's one thing to genuinely endorse a product you use and believe in, but is the signature article really the same as the original? Guess I'm pretty cynical when it comes to marketing.
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#720907 - 08/10/06 12:39 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by Social Critic:
Just think, in 20 or 30 years we'll be on this forum carping and moaning about has Flea had the audacity to put a refrigerator magnet on a classic instrument such as that, and that is a crying shame, and he should be locked up, and how we should give that thing to someone who really knows how to take care of such a wonderful, classic instrument.

... let me tell you about the big, plastic letter Z on this part of the bridge...
Oh, my, you're right. Traben has opened the doors to the "lacquered vs unlacquered" metals argument, commonly found among trumpet and saxophone players. In this case it may be more "plated vs unplated" but it's the same senseless waste of time. Traben would have been wise to watch the arguments that have come to life since brass instrument makers have started using multiple colors of lacquer... it takes our silly "red is faster, black is louder" pander to a passionate level. Scary.
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#720908 - 08/10/06 02:15 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt W:
... it takes our silly "red is faster, black is louder" pander to a passionate level.
I don't want to have to correct you here Matt, but I'm pretty sure panders are black and white.
Just FYI.

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#720909 - 08/10/06 02:20 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Yep. Panders ARE black and white.
And they come from Chiner.
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#720910 - 08/10/06 02:21 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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I've been dissapointed with communication with Michael Kelly, so this doesn't surprise me. As for advertising a product and not backing it up on the net... that's a bit unheard of these days. Then again Mesa/Boogie are pro's at advertising products and them not coming out for two years.
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#720911 - 08/10/06 03:51 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Panders are black and white... from Chiner...

I just spewed water on my monitor!

Post of the day nomination for Wraub, honorable mention for CMDN.
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#720912 - 08/10/06 03:57 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt W:
Panders are black and white... from Chiner...

I just spewed water on my monitor!

Post of the day nomination for Wraub, honorable mention for CMDN.
+1 ROFLMAO

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M R Panders?
Yep. Panders from Chiner.

Y'all.
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#720913 - 08/10/06 04:16 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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ROTFLMAO, again!
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#720914 - 08/10/06 09:27 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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That thing I saw at the NAMM show would scare a buzzard off a trash can. Only the Daisy Rock bass was more embarrassing & not by much. Panderers? They's bars ain't they?
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#720915 - 08/10/06 10:22 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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man...

i like most of the daisy rock instruments.

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#720916 - 08/11/06 12:58 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by robb.:
man...

i like most of the daisy rock instruments.

robb.
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#720917 - 08/11/06 08:50 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Why would anyone buy a signature bass anyway?

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#720918 - 08/11/06 09:18 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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I'd love to get me a nice 'n' shiny pink DaisyRock bass, and then whip it out during an audition where I'll have to play Metallica's "Master Of Puppets"

In all seriousness, I do like them DaisyRocks. And to answer Davo-London's question: if it's a good bass (and affordable) then I wouldn't care what name's on it. But to buy a bass BECAUSE there a certain name on it? No thanks. Unless it's a Fender :p

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#720919 - 08/11/06 12:29 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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so you must really love the geddy lee, then. it has geddy's name on the back of the headstock and fender's name on the front of the headstock. and then it's a really nice bass for a great price.

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#720920 - 08/11/06 02:04 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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robb, it was my (lame) attempt at irony ;\)

That said, the BenLoy bass is indeed a very attractive one.

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#720921 - 08/11/06 02:35 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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my attempt was equally lame, then. you don't like names? how about two? ;\) i wrecked the joke when i swung into seriousness 1. in the same paragraph, and 2. without emoticon to notate sarcasm.

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#720922 - 08/12/06 02:44 AM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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So we both need help, then ... ;\) Perhaps from the master himself?

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#720923 - 08/12/06 06:06 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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It should sell well

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#720924 - 08/12/06 07:38 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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quote:
Originally posted by sflajimmy:
It should sell well

I thought that your name was sflatjimmy! hehe

I thought that the bass was a rippoff.

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#720925 - 08/12/06 08:59 PM Re: Bootsy's new sig bass and a complaint
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Quote:
Originally posted by jcadmus:
You know, I've been hearing great things about this new "Internet" thing.

I think I'll print off a copy so I can read it over the weekend.
Come on, get with the program...you don't have to print it...just download it to you PC...all of it... ;\)

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