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#521106 - 05/04/01 01:59 PM P-Bass vs J-Bass
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More newbiew questions.

What are the significant differences between the Precision and Jazz Basses? Is there a real difference? Does playing style matter? And is the Fender P-Bass Special a good cross between the two?

thanks,
David

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#521107 - 05/04/01 07:09 PM Re: P-Bass vs J-Bass
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in terms of sound:
i think a J has a much punchier sound whereas a P has a very big, round sound. you can make a J sound approximately like a P (and vice versa) with a lot of effort, but it's generally not worth it.

in terms of feel:
a j has a much thinner neck in terms of radius and width. the P has a thick, round neck to accompany its thick, round sound. in a lot of ways, the P bass is a very fundamental, ham-handed bass. it really only does bass. the J was a modernization on the P, increasing the frequency range of the instrument and its response to the player.

a P is usually much cheaper than a J, and a PJ (P pickup and a J pickup at the bridge) is a often a blend of all things -- parts, sound, and price.

hopefully others will concur.
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#521108 - 05/04/01 10:12 PM Re: P-Bass vs J-Bass
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Yes, I agree with your summation of the P vs. J thing. The Jazz is more articulate, the P is more chunky.

The P/J is a strange beast. I have never been totally happy with this setup. The first problem has been to find a good pickup for the bridge. I don't like having a single coil pickup stuck in there all by itself humming constantly. Many companies (including Fender) put out their P/J basses this way. Until I recently "discovered" the DiMarzio DP149 Ultra-Jazz pickup, I didn't know of a good single space humbucker that sounded good and would match the output of a P pickup. (I like the Carvin H50, but it is really meant to be used with a preamp, in passive mode it's not quite loud enough for a stock P pickup).

The other problem is pickup placement. My experience with several P/Js has led me to believe that you need to place the J pickup closer to the bridge than you would if it were a standard J/J set up. The standard J bridge position sounds too nasal when combined with a P, placing it approximately 1" from the bridge gives you better high frequency blend with the chunky P pickup. However, most builders default to the standard placement.

As far as the neck goes, I'd personally opt for a thinner Jazz neck on a PJ, just my preference.

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#521109 - 05/16/01 12:08 PM Re: P-Bass vs J-Bass
David Offline
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Ed and synaes,

Thanks for the comments. Gives me a bit more to think about.

David
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#521110 - 05/17/01 04:05 PM Re: P-Bass vs J-Bass
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Quote:
Originally posted by synaes:
a P is usually much cheaper than a J


For years, Fender priced the Jazz Bass higher than the Precision but for the last few years both Fender and Squier models have identical prices for either P or J. Price is not an issue for new ones any more.

It's a HUGE issue with vintage axes, where J basses can easily go for double what a comparable P bass would fetch.

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#521111 - 05/17/01 04:11 PM Re: P-Bass vs J-Bass
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yeah, i reread my post on that, and thought, "what the f@#$ was i thinking?"
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