ManInTheBox Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 I want to make rock songs, Is there a loop library or something dedicated to just hard rock, or would I be better off taking a jazz or blues, or country drum loop, and try to make it sound rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 The VST Drum Sessions from Steinberg have a Heavy Rock & Metal set. You'll have to see if it's what you're after. What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franknputer Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Here's one, if you like Aerosmith. [url=http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=AI-100]Joey Kramer Drum Loops and Samples.[/url] They're out there - but don't underestimate the interest factor of working with other styles, either. You can definitely take a jazz loop & rock it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Ratte Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 What do you guys think of a hybrid sort of group like The Faint? I'm really digging their half-dozen best tunes. Dancey & rocking out at the same time. G. Ratte' http://www.cultdeadcow.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZA Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 yeah, the Faint, Death Cab for Cutie, Spookey Ruben (check out "Breakfast"), Tortoise, Trans Am, Pinback, etc. Loops and Rock are Friends. --za Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 ...although you probably could get a lot of mileage out of that Joey Kramer CD if that's your thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZA Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Opinion time: loops only sound good if you play up the fact that they're loops. If it sounds like you're trying to hide them, it doesn't work. If you want a "hard rock" sound, use a real drummer. If you want to loop "hard rock" drum sounds, knock yrself out. popmusic--"I enjoy Spookey Ruben and Tortoise, but I wouldn't really call them rock." Maybe Spookey rocks so hard, it's off your meter. ;) Tortoise I'll give you. --za Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 8 Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Didn't White Zombie use loops? I'm not real into their scene, but the tune 'More Human Than Human' always sounded like it was loop based to me. Other stuff I've heard from Rob Zombie sounds about the same. Super 8 Hear my stuff here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagevibe Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 "Composing" music with loops is like paint by numbers painting. It's not really your work. It's one thing to hire musicians to play your parts for you but when you use a prefab loop with bass, drums, keyboard etc.. the parts were created by someone else - you are calling someone else's work your own. Just because you add somthing over the loop doesn't mean you are the sole author. Some people have composing skills and others use prefab loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franknputer Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Jeez, the Puristas are out in force today... :rolleyes: Using loops does not somehow "compromise your art". Only you can do that, and you can do it with or without loops. I've worked with a number of "hard rock drummers" who regurgitated the "kewl beats" they have assimilated. Does that make them artists, or human samplers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlChuck Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Check out Jeff Beck's [i]You Had It Coming[/i] if you don't think loops can rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 [img]http://kellogg.marketlocator.com/kelloggs/us/knutr.nsf/d99d2c2f7baef4a2862569f90074ec05/af95bcf61f5718bb86256a4f005067ab[/img] I use Loops all the time when I write music... DANG...it's supposed to be a picture of a Froot Loops box. But it won't come out, because Kellogg's made the address too long, so nimrods like me can't poke fun at their products. The nerve. "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 8 Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by dino321: [b]"Composing" music with loops is like paint by numbers painting. It's not really your work.[/b][/quote]I would take issue with that. Composing with loops is nothing like paint-by-numbers. It's much more like a montage, where you take found objects, or pieces of pictures and put them together to make something new. Paint-by-numbers is more closely related to writing Top-40 Hits, where all of the stylistic parameters are established before you begin writing the song. It has to sound a lot like the other songs that are selling right now. While it's certainly true that one can just throw down a bunch of loops and have a song that is closer to being plagiarism than a unique composition, isn't the same true of songwriting without loops? I have nothing against using loops or anything else. The question of composition falls on the artist, not their medium of expression. Super 8 Hear my stuff here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by popmusic: [b]IMO, there is [i]no[/i] rock music I've heard that sounds good with loops. [/b][/quote]Garbage, Nirvana, and Sonic Youth sound good with loops, in my opinion. Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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