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So, I went ahead and ordered something from Warmoth- a one-piece Roasted Swamp Ash Telecaster body, with Strat-like forearm and ribcage comfort contours and a contoured heel, in Vintage Tint Gloss- which will look somewhat akin to vintage Butterscotch over the darkened, Roasted Swamp Ash.

A little later I'll order a Roasted Maple neck from Warmoth to go with it- all Maple, maybe Roasted Flamed Maple or, if possible, Roasted Quarter-Sawn Maple (I want a stable neck requiring as little Seasonal adjustments as possible!). I'm going to go with a "reverse" Tele headstock, too; and then, all the hardware and electronics.

It'll take some time to be done and shipped to me, but it will be well worth the wait!

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Very cool Caevan! Keep us posted as the project progresses! Sounds like a load of fun. Have you considered Birdseye maple for the neck? I've heard it is a good one for strong materials which might save on future seasonal adjustments? I like the reverse headstock concept. I would also consider a reverse switch plate. Are you going with 3 barrel saddles or Strat style? Anyway, good luck and I know you will put your heart into it! I can't wait for the pics! thu


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Good luck with the project. This will be fun, & I definitely want to see how it progresses. I have designed many Telecasters in my mind, seeking the ultimate Tele. I am still without a Telecaster, so your courage to embark is heartening.


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Originally Posted by Larryz
Very cool Caevan! Keep us posted as the project progresses! Sounds like a load of fun. Have you considered Birdseye maple for the neck? I've heard it is a good one for strong materials which might save on future seasonal adjustments? I like the reverse headstock concept. I would also consider a reverse switch plate. Are you going with 3 barrel saddles or Strat style? Anyway, good luck and I know you will put your heart into it! I can't wait for the pics! thu
Bird's Eye maple is cool; I've had a guitar with a Bird's Eye Maple neck, and a Brazilian Rosewood 10" - 16" Compound Radius fretboard, too...

I just want this particular guitars neck to be either Roasted Quarter-Sawn maple (if it's available), or Roasted Flamed Maple. Roasted Maple at the very least.

I'm debating whether to go with the reverse headstock, or to go with the 'standard' right-handed headstock; it occurs to me that the latter would be better for a lot of 'behind-the-nut' bends...

I am definitely going with a "reverse" control plate- and also, a slanted slot for he pickup selector-switch. So it'll be Volume, Tone, Selector- or, maybe even, Volume, EMG SPC, Selector- that SPC would come in real handy and go well with a Tele bridge-pickup...


I have a few pedals that I know this Tele will get on better with than my Les Paul and its humbuckers, too.


Three barrel saddles- but one of the trick designs that allow improved intonation.


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Gonna be a sweet guitar!!!! I love a good Tele, has been a favorite for decades. I've had a few here and there, always one for certain.

Photo is a fairly recent build, I've had the neck since the mid 80's. It's had a beating, the headstock was broken and repaired (both by me!).
Various parts that came my way over time. Has the EMG Tele set with Alnico magnets and an SPC instead of the tone control. I just crank the knobs and call it good.

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Sounds fab Caev-lots of pics please!


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+1 on the trick design 3 barrels with intonation adjustments and +1 on the slanted cut pickup selector switch plate (both are very cool). I might add locking tuners. They also have the ashtray bridge plate with the lower edge cutout which I like (as I would always wind up picking on it instead of the E string LOL!). I know you love the SPC and you have to work it in somehow...This is going to be the project all of us will be glued to! thu

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Have fun building your new ax Caev. Pictures when done amigo.


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Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
Photo is a fairly recent build, I've had the neck since the mid 80's. It's had a beating, the headstock was broken and repaired (both by me!).
Various parts that came my way over time. Has the EMG Tele set with Alnico magnets and an SPC instead of the tone control. I just crank the knobs and call it good.
Niiiiiiiiice. Are those basically the Tele-mounting version of their SA pickups? Those are really nice...

And the EMG SPC rules! I am very likely to put one in this Tele build; it aughtta kick ash, ehr, ass with the bridge-pickup...

Originally Posted by Larryz
I might add locking tuners. They also have the ashtray bridge plate with the lower edge cutout which I like (as I would always wind up picking on it instead of the E string LOL!). I know you love the SPC and you have to work it in somehow...
I am also going to go with a bridge-plate with the edges partially removed; I am very hands-on with muting, damping, palm-muting at the bridge, a 100% fingerstyle "touch" player; and I'm also very, VERY used to my Les Paul, with its carved-top and raised T-o-M bridge- this flat-topped Tele with a relatively low-profile bridge is going to take a little getting used to. But, I think I'll manage! cool

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Sounds fab Caev-lots of pics please!
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This is going to be the project all of us will be glued to! thu
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Have fun building your new ax Caev. Pictures when done amigo.

Will do! However, for more than one reason, it might be 10 to 12 weeks, maybe more, before I even receive the body. This going to be a very gradual, drawn-out saga, but it should be done and spankin' and crankin' by Summer or Fall.

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Originally Posted by Caevan O'Shite
Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
Photo is a fairly recent build, I've had the neck since the mid 80's. It's had a beating, the headstock was broken and repaired (both by me!).
Various parts that came my way over time. Has the EMG Tele set with Alnico magnets and an SPC instead of the tone control. I just crank the knobs and call it good.
Niiiiiiiiice. Are those basically the Tele-mounting version of their SA pickups? Those are really nice...

And the EMG SPC rules! I am very likely to put one in this Tele build; it aughtta kick ash, ehr, ass with the bridge-pickup...
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The EMG Tele pickup is unique, most definitely NOT an SA (I have both pickups and have used an SA on a Tele in the neck position). It's not a night and day difference and both are very good but I prefer the Tele.
The SPC works great with it, i am a huge SPC fan as well. Both of my main giggers have SPC controls instead of tone controls. I like knobs that actually do something.

Here are a couple of reviews of the T pickup - https://www.emgpickups.com/ft.html

Treat yourself and your Tele to the original EMG Tele set. They have an optional set with ceramic magnets, that's what Vince Gill prefers (and who's going to argue with that man's tone?). I still prefer the Alnico, a bit sweeter and more natural sounding.
As far as locking tuners go, having installed all sorts of things - the Graph Tech Ratio Tuners are BY FAR the nicest tuners I've ever installed on a guitar. I have quite a few sets of the Sperzels and I like them the but the Ratio sets kick butt.
Partial Disclamer - I've never installed those Steinberger tuners that sort of look like robot banjo tuners. Those are supposed to be really nice too.


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Sounds like a really fun project, I'm sure you will enjoy it.


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Originally Posted by surfergirl
Sounds like a really fun project, I'm sure you will enjoy it.
Thanks! In the end, the BEST part and the MOST FUN will be playing what will be an amazing guitar that really suits my wants and needs!

Warmoth makes fantastic necks- among the very best in the biz, and a surefire upgrade for almost any bolt-on neck electric guitar. A Birds'-Eye Maple Strat neck with a Brazilian Rosewood fretboard in their 10" - 16" Compound Radius spoiled me for all others- the best Fender, Gibson, PRS, Ibanez, etc. etc. necks I've put my hands on over the years always feel 2nd-Best.

I'll probably never, ever buy a Fender or Fender-style guitar- and only ever put together Fender-style, bolt-on axes with necks and bodies from Warmoth. They're that good. And, some Fender and other well-known successful brands even have necks and/or bodies made for them by Warmoth under contract.


I'm chompin' at the bit, so's to speak- I would have ordered the neck already last night, but I waited to long and it was too late to get anyone at Warmoth on the phone and I have a few very specific questions that I need to be answered before I place the order.

In particular, I want to know if I can specially request a Roasted Quartersawn Maple neck; they have options for Roasted Maple (including Roasted Flamed and Bird's-Eye, both beautiful!), and Quartersawn Maple, but nothing to click on to select Roasted Quartersawn Maple- the combination of which would be an EXTREMELY stable neck, very important to me, even more than looks. I also would like this to be a one-piece neck, much like the old original Fender maple necks, without a separate fretboard slab. I'm prrretty sure that they'd do that if I request that in the "Notes" section of the order form, AND agree to the added time on top of the already longer than usual time for it to be made- but, I'd rather know for sure.

I'm also on the fence regarding the string-nut, between Graph Tech White Tusq (synthetic material, super slippery low string-friction for better tuning-stability, "500% slipperier than graphite"!), and the LSR Roller nut (steel, with two ball-bearing rollers for each string to seat upon); a good part of the decision is based on radius matching the 1st-fret.
I'll probably be going with the Tusq, but...


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^^^ Per above ^^^
If you want the 22nd fret you'll want the Vintage Modern style neck. I think they still make that as a one piece. If not, you'll have to go with a 21 fret neck.
I'm sure they'll make a roasted quarter sawn neck, that sounds awesome.

Consider your width at the nut, they'll do 1 5/8" up to 1 7/8". I have large hands so I prefer the 1 7/8" and can happily use the 1 3/4" nut width.
There are lots of options for the shape of the back of the neck as well. I love the Fatback but they have quite a variety. Choose well, choose once, get what YOU love.
I agree that Warmoth has a high level of quality that few can aspire to, in bolt on world the G&L stuff competes for quality but not for variety of options.

Get the Tusc nut, hands down. The only other thing worth considering is the Earvana. You don't want your strings floating on two balls, it just doesn't sound as good.
I'm assuming this is a hard tail? No good reason not to go Tusc or Earvana.

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I'm not a fan of the LSR roller nut. I have a Strat so equipped. I feel like the 1st fret action is a little high and the metal edges are not real comfortable when sliding off the fret board at the headstock. They do work great for bending and for whammy bar action. Most Tele players are not really into whammy bars. I would go with the Tusq. However, I still prefer bone nuts with low action and a smooth slide off on the edges. .. cool


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Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
Get the Tusq nut, hands down. The only other thing worth considering is the Earvana. You don't want your strings floating on two balls, it just doesn't sound as good.
I'm assuming this is a hard tail? No good reason not to go Tusq or Earvana.
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I'm not a fan of the LSR roller nut. I have a Strat so equipped. I feel like the 1st fret action is a little high and the metal edges are not real comfortable when sliding off the fret board at the headstock. They do work great for bending and for whammy bar action. Most Tele players are not really into whammy bars. I would go with the Tusq. However, I still prefer bone nuts with low action and a smooth slide off on the edges. .. cool
OK, then, I think that it'll be the Tusq XL!

I was under the vague impression that I might like the tone of the metal/ball-bearing LSR Nut; and, that it might be better yet for tuning-stability, letting the strings slde 'n' glide through.

Yeah, this WILL be a hard-tail, classic Tele arrangement, with a three-barrel-saddle bridge (tricked-out for improved intonation); but, I do get prrretty bendy, and I might go with the regular right-handed Tele headstock for the ease of behind-the-nut bends. (I was originally going to get a "reversed" Tele headstock, and put left-handed water-slide decals on it- upside-down and backwards- to make it look like a lefty-Tele neck put on a righty-guitar.)


I am not so sure I want to go with the Earvana, though. Since I started using Peterson StroboStomp tuners, I've been very pleased with my intonation and tuning; I don't think that I need the Earvana design. Warmoth does offer a combination, Earvana-cut Graph Tech White Tusq nut option, as well.


This might be the first electric guitar I've had in DECADES that I might string with "10's" (I will ONLY put DR Pure Blues .011" - .050" on my Les Paul, my Ibanez Jazzbox gets Thomasti-Infeld Swing Flatwound 13's or 14's). I might still go with 11's... we'll see. Almost certainly the DR Pure Blues, either way.

Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
If you want the 22nd fret you'll want the Vintage Modern style neck. I think they still make that as a one piece. If not, you'll have to go with a 21 fret neck.

I'm sure they'll make a roasted quarter sawn neck, that sounds awesome.
Yeah, that would be about the ultimate in consistent stability and stiffness for a wooden neck.

I'm thinking:

  • 22 Frets
  • One-Piece Right-Handed Telecaster, Vintage/Modern Construction
    (Walnut "Skunk Stripe" down the back, Walnut-lined Truss-Rod Adjustment Access at the headstock)
  • Roasted Quartersawn Maple
  • 1-11/16" nut-width, Graphtech White Tusq XL (Almost tempted to go with the "vintage" 1-5/8"; I do often fret two strings at once with one fingertip... )
  • "59 Roundback" Profile
  • 10" - 16" Compound Radius fretboard
  • Stainless Steel 6105 "Narrow & Tall" or Stainless Steel 6150 "Jumbo" frets
  • Vintage-sized tuner holes (I'm probably going with one or another Gotoh "Vintage Oval Knob" tuner-set, Staggered and/or Locking)
  • Unfinished, or maybe just a finished-fretboard, with Vintage Tint Gloss on just the headstock-face, if possible


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I'm nt sure they offer the truss rod adjustment at the headstock end. If they do then goodie!
If not, I don't find myself needed to adjust my truss rods on maple neck guitars very often.

Locking tuners are a real time-saver when string changing time comes. I take one guitar and a set of strings to gigs, on those rare occasions I break a string it doesn't take long to put a new one on.

Bear in mind the Tele is 25.5" scale and with a hard tail so that will stiffen the feel a bit as well. So you may like 11s or you may prefer 10s.


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Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
I'm nt sure they offer the truss rod adjustment at the headstock end. If they do then goodie!
If not, I don't find myself needed to adjust my truss rods on maple neck guitars very often.
They do- in fact, that's how they come with their 'Vintage/Modern Construction'. At a glance, the Walnut makes it appear similar to the old vintage plug.

The less need for truss-rod adjustment, the better.

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Locking tuners are a real time-saver when string changing time comes. I take one guitar and a set of strings to gigs, on those rare occasions I break a string it doesn't take long to put a new one on.
That'd be cool; and any additional tuning-stability is an even greater enticement for me.

I do have a bit of a soft-spot for having this guitar look particularly "vintage" overall- though I did order the "Standard" Tele body, which has rounder radius around the edges of the body, no "bump" in the cutaway (frankly, those looked ugly and felt less comfortable to the hand). And I'm getting the body with the Strat-styled "Comfort Contours" for the forearm and ribs/stomach, AND the Contoured Heel. ANYWAY, I am likely to go with a set of Gotoh Vintage Oval Button Locking tuners; if there is a combination Locking/Staggered set available, I'd love that.

Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
Bear in mind the Tele is 25.5" scale and with a hard tail so that will stiffen the feel a bit as well. So you may like 11s or you may prefer 10s.
Oh, very much born in mind! I started for the most part with a 23-1/2" short-scaled guitar, then played a 25-1/2" scaled "Super Strat" stylee (with a Warmoth neck- Bird's-Eye Maple, Brazilian Rosewood 10" - 16" Compound Radius fretboard) for eleven years or more (as well as a 25-1/2" scaled Dreadnought styled flat-top acoustic strung with .0114" - .059" strings). Then I went to a pair of Les Pauls for many years...

I'm keeping the Les Paul, but I also want a really b!tchin' Hot Rod Tele, too.

So... I just ordered:
_____________________________________________________________________________

  • Serial Number: CN*****
    CUSTOM NECK
  • Style: Telecaster┬«
  • Construction: Vintage/Modern Construction
  • Scale: 25-1/2"
  • Orientation: Right Handed
  • Neck Wood: Quartersawn Maple (One Piece)
  • Fingerboard Wood: Quartersawn Maple
  • Nut Width: 1-11/16"
  • Back Shape: 59 roundback
  • Fret Size: SS6150 (Stainless)
  • Tuner Ream: Vintage Style (11/32")
  • Radius: 10-16" Compound
  • Fret #: 22
  • Mounting Holes: Standard 4 Bolt
  • Inlays: Black Face Dots
  • Side Dots: Black Side Dots
  • String Nut: GraphTech White TUSQ XL - Standard Nut
  • Finish: No Finish

    Notes:

    Just to be certain- One-Piece Neck, please! (If I understand correctly, my Core and Fretboard Wood choices indicate 1-pc construction. But if necessary, upcharge acceptable.)

    *Roasted* *Quartersawn* Maple, please! Upcharge acceptable.

    *Headstock Face* *ONLY*- Clear Gloss, please! Upcharge acceptable.

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That's going to be bitchin for sure. I dig teles and would like one as simple as hell , I may some day grab a slick tele from gfs. Who knows.
As soon as I really retire ( back on contract) I may get into some kits for fun.

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