StanC Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Some old friends from a high school band recently contacted me to do some recording. Since we are scattered over the country this will be virtual using Audacity software. Bass player and drummer have been able to connect to their computers but I have not been successful. First attempt was with a 1/4" to USB cord from the line out of my Yamaha S90 XS to my Dell inspiron laptop. Although the LED on the cord flashes when I play, and I see a signal when I test microphone on the Windows 10 Settings--> Sound, page, I do not hear any sound through the laptop speakers or external amp and speakers via the lap's headphone jack. And there is no presence in Audacity. Audacity shows it is recording when I hit the record icon, but obviously it is not getting the input. I also tried 1/4" to 1/8 stereo" from S90 to lap headphone with same result. Those two methods for connection come right out of the Audacity users manual. I have messed with the windows and Audacity settings but to no avail. The guys have been successful in recording, editing, overdubbing, and marrying tracks so we need to all be on the same platform. Cant figure out what I am missing or doing wrong! Anyone have any experience with Audacity or recording in general that may shed some light on this? BTW this is not a "Duh" moment. Speakers are not muted on the laptop Quote Stan Gig Rig: Yamaha S90 XS; Hammond SK-1; Rehearsal: Yamaha MOX8 Korg Triton Le61, Yamaha S90, Hammond XK-1 Retired: Hammond M2/Leslie 145, Wurly 200, Ensoniq VFX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajstan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I think the way most accomplish what you want to do is with an audio interface. If you're running mono you can use something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QR6Z1JB If you want to run stereo, use this upgraded version: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QR73T66 Quote Nord Stage 3 HA88, Nord Stage 3 Compact, Casio CT-S1, Radial Key Largo, Westone AM Pro 30, Rolls PM55P, K&M 18880 + 18881, Bose S1 Pro, JBL 305p MKII, Zoom Q2n-4K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanC Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 I would be running mono. But I have 2 keyboards. Can I assume the stereo version would work for that? It looks like there are two 1/4" inputs on the front panel. Quote Stan Gig Rig: Yamaha S90 XS; Hammond SK-1; Rehearsal: Yamaha MOX8 Korg Triton Le61, Yamaha S90, Hammond XK-1 Retired: Hammond M2/Leslie 145, Wurly 200, Ensoniq VFX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajstan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I would think so, since the purpose is to be able to record multiple channels simultaneously, whether it's two different instruments/microphones or a L/R channel from a stereo source. https://focusrite.com/en/usb-audio-interface/scarlett/scarlett-2i2 Quote Nord Stage 3 HA88, Nord Stage 3 Compact, Casio CT-S1, Radial Key Largo, Westone AM Pro 30, Rolls PM55P, K&M 18880 + 18881, Bose S1 Pro, JBL 305p MKII, Zoom Q2n-4K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfields Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I think the way most accomplish what you want to do is with an audio interface. Huh, I was assuming that's what the "1/4" to USB cord" was. Or is it a DAC like you'd use to get a headphone out on a phone with only USB? The only audio jack on a recent Inspiron is probably a TRRS phone/mic jack, which would explain why just connecting it to a keyboard output wouldn't work. A cable to break out mic and headphone jacks like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I3A47I4/ might do it, but yes, an audio interface would be more useful. Yes, you could record mono from two keyboards simultaneously with the two-input version. Alternatively, you could record them one at a time. Or you could run the output from one to the line in of the other and record both at once onto a single track, but then you lose the ability to do things like adjust the balance of the two tracks after the fact, or overdub just one of the two tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elif Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Audacity has multiple pull-downs to select input and output sources. I've had to fiddle with these from time-to-time, depending on what source I was using. This might help: Tutorial - Selecting Your Recording Device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp-the-nerd Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I use audacity on a PC laptop. I needed a USB audio interface to connect a line out from my keyboard setup, alternatively you can use a USB microphone to mic up your amp. But yeah, a direct line requires an interface. Quote Keyboards: Nord Electro 6D 73, Korg SV-1 88, Minilogue XD, Yamaha YPG-625 Bonus: Boss RC-3 Loopstation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanC Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 Thank you all for your input! Quote Stan Gig Rig: Yamaha S90 XS; Hammond SK-1; Rehearsal: Yamaha MOX8 Korg Triton Le61, Yamaha S90, Hammond XK-1 Retired: Hammond M2/Leslie 145, Wurly 200, Ensoniq VFX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51recording Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Dumb question, but a small mixer with USB output would do the trick, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIDI2XS Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 If the MOX8 is available, it has a built-in USB audio interface. Here's how to use it... http://www.motifator.com/index.php/support/view/mox6_mox8_basic_audio_recording If the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver for Windows 10 isn't already installed on your computer, it can be downloaded here: https://usa.yamaha.com/support/updates/index.html?c=music_production&k=MOX Quote Yamaha: Motif XF6 and XS6, A3000V2, A4000, YS200 | Korg: T3EX, 05R/W | Fender Chroma Polaris | Roland U-220 | Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp-the-nerd Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Dumb question, but a small mixer with USB output would do the trick, yes? Yes. I'm looking at getting a 10 channel yamaha mixer with USB out, and that will act as a 2-channel audio interface. Quote Keyboards: Nord Electro 6D 73, Korg SV-1 88, Minilogue XD, Yamaha YPG-625 Bonus: Boss RC-3 Loopstation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51recording Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Dumb question, but a small mixer with USB output would do the trick, yes? Yes. I'm looking at getting a 10 channel yamaha mixer with USB out, and that will act as a 2-channel audio interface. Yep me too. I'm needing (If I EVER get back to gigging) a small mixer with a couple of mic pres and a couple of stereo channels. Since my recording Mac Pro went belly up a few months back, I thought I'd get something that has a USB ouput as well to record a few things into my laptop.....two birds with one stone, and all that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider76 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Yes, I use a USB mixer direct to Audacity on Windows. No audio interface. Works flawlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Yes, I use a USB mixer direct to Audacity on Windows. No audio interface. Works flawlessly. The mixer is the audio interface, or should say contains an audio interface along mixer section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider76 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yes, I use a USB mixer direct to Audacity on Windows. No audio interface. Works flawlessly. The mixer is the audio interface, or should say contains an audio interface along mixer section. Yes of course, I just meant that I'm using no dedicated standalone audio interface. Sound quality is more than good enough from what I can judge, and there are only some very occasional glitches, which most probably are caused by my old slow laptop, rather than the USB mixer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yes, I use a USB mixer direct to Audacity on Windows. No audio interface. Works flawlessly. The mixer is the audio interface, or should say contains an audio interface along mixer section. Yes of course, I just meant that I'm using no dedicated standalone audio interface. Sound quality is more than good enough from what I can judge, and there are only some very occasional glitches, which most probably are caused by my old slow laptop, rather than the USB mixer. If you can run direct audio to your headphones instead of "round trip" audio (which is the playback of what has been recorded), then you can increase your latency which will reduce or eliminate glitches. First, try increasing latency. If there is no "delay" of your live tracks then you are already there. If glitches continue try increasing latency until they go away. If they don't go away then it isn't your laptop. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanC Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 Yes, I use a USB mixer direct to Audacity on Windows. No audio interface. Works flawlessly. Which mixer do you use? Quote Stan Gig Rig: Yamaha S90 XS; Hammond SK-1; Rehearsal: Yamaha MOX8 Korg Triton Le61, Yamaha S90, Hammond XK-1 Retired: Hammond M2/Leslie 145, Wurly 200, Ensoniq VFX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider76 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I've user various, from a tiny Alesis Multimix 4, to a Behringer Q1202USB, now I've settled on a Yamaha MG12XU. All worked fine. Maybe the Behringer was infinitesimally more noisy. The Yamaha's build quality is top notch, as with anything Yamaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp-the-nerd Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I've user various, from a tiny Alesis Multimix 4, to a Behringer Q1202USB, now I've settled on a Yamaha MG12XU. All worked fine. Maybe the Behringer was infinitesimally more noisy. The Yamaha's build quality is top notch, as with anything Yamaha. Good to hear you like the MG12XU. I'm getting the MG10XU. I wish the 10 channel had the sliders and mute buttons like yours, but for the money it's a great deal. Quote Keyboards: Nord Electro 6D 73, Korg SV-1 88, Minilogue XD, Yamaha YPG-625 Bonus: Boss RC-3 Loopstation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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