Theo Verelst Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Honestly I always loved that warm Lush but well defined, rich, rhythmically sensitive non-obtrusive great taste Lexicon reverberation on Live and Studio musical products. Now with time there appears to have come a break in that road too, but naturally, the product is still there, possibly with a little different driven translation abilities to make that live voice heard close by in the back of the audience or to get that rhythm section to have soul even when playing a record at low volme. Now there used to be (maybe still are) mixers with a bult in, I suppose MX200 Lexicon, obviously there are Yamaha workstations with SPX effects and others built in, various named imitations reverb and effects in for instance the V.A.S.T. machines, but is there a synthesizer with built in, integrated Lexicon reverb? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Lexicon was bought and dismantled by Harmon. Pieces went out to digitech. Then Digitech more or less got dismantled. Meanwhile pcm 70s are old and failing and there are no proprietary parts to fix them. Same goes for other top lex's. I'm not an expert, just an interested onlooker but I dont think any keyboard ever had lexicon or lex algos inboard. Kurzweil reverbs were nice. Maybe a kurzy will fit your bill. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I do not recall a piece of gear with a built in Lexicon FX processor. However, I just sold a Lexicon MPX550 that had excellent verbs and other FX in it. Outboard gear is dying out as digital mixers with built-in FX and plug-ins are more convenient. Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reezekeys Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I do not recall a piece of gear with a built in Lexicon FX processor. https://www.soundcraft.com/en/product_families/efx-series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I've got plugins that (supposedly) are emulating lexicons. For example R4 by exponential audio was written by a former lexicon engineer. As far as on my keyboards or a mixer, I'd only be using those live, and typically don't use reverb that much live. I'm going against what I've said in the past a bit (complaining about behringer not putting fx on a keyboard for example) but I've come to realize that in most places I play, fx are unwelcome because the venues are already reverberant. I'd probably get a strymon blue sky or something if I really felt I needed it and my gear didn't have it. Most mixer fx I've heard are frankly not that great, though I've certainly not heard all that many to be sure. All that said, I just got a Novation Summit and the fx are incredible so they are there if I need them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I do not recall a piece of gear with a built in Lexicon FX processor. https://www.soundcraft.com/en/product_families/efx-series I should have been more specific in stating keyboard gear. Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I own some legacy Lexicon reverbs - PCM60, M200. I've been playing keys since the 1970s and have never seen one keyboard with built in Lexicon reverb. The closest is the Moog One which includes a built in Eventide digital reverb. There are mixers with built in Lexicon effects but the reverb effects are nowhere near as good as the outboard stuff. The Lexicon of the legacy era is gone. The closest you will find today is Bricasti. I have yet to hear a plugin that replicates the legacy Lexicon reverb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reezekeys Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Anything on the web where engineers, producers and/or musicians with knowledge, experience, and some kind of cred have compared these with the original Lex hardware? I'm not particularly interested in researching this, since for my current needs I'm usually happy with almost any decent software reverb. It makes sense to me that knowledge of audio DSP techniques has progressed since the days of the 224, PCM60, etc. and that a lot of us are, as usual and once again, listening back with "rose colored headphones." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 "rose colored headphones."Nice phrase! Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Anything on the web where engineers, producers and/or musicians with knowledge, experience, and some kind of cred have compared these with the original Lex hardware? I'm not particularly interested in researching this, since for my current needs I'm usually happy with almost any decent software reverb. It makes sense to me that knowledge of audio DSP techniques has progressed since the days of the 224, PCM60, etc. and that a lot of us are, as usual and once again, listening back with "rose colored headphones." Gearslutz has had as many threads about hardware vs software lexicons as keyboard corner has had about hammond clones vs yada yada and mo. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 "rose colored headphones."Nice phrase!I should have written "ideal for listening to pink noise" Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Anything on the web where engineers, producers and/or musicians with knowledge, experience, and some kind of cred have compared these with the original Lex hardware? I'm not particularly interested in researching this, since for my current needs I'm usually happy with almost any decent software reverb. It makes sense to me that knowledge of audio DSP techniques has progressed since the days of the 224, PCM60, etc. and that a lot of us are, as usual and once again, listening back with "rose colored headphones." Gearslutz Lexicon Bestiary Probably the finest collection of info on Lexicon digital reverbs from engineers, producers, musicians, and some of the original developers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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