picker Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Somebody posted a link to this video, and I really like the tone he gets on slide. I noticed he seems to lean into the lower strings, and gets what I describe as a vocal tone, somewhat reminiscent of what Derek Trucks gets. Any of y'all get that kind of sound? 1 Quote Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 That's cool, he's really good. His right hand technique is excellent as well. I play slide but not enough. I tend to bear down a bit and use a heavy slide, can't have low action. I switched to lap steel, no frets and way high action so I can use a solid Shubb bar and get amazing sustain. No frets, no finger work on the neck. I've seen David Lindley twice, he is the master of the lap steel. You've probably heard him, he played on Jackson Browne's Running On Empty, Warren Zevon's Werewolves Of London and for Trio (Dolly Parton, Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris. Solo act, he is amazing. Has low tuned string(s) for bass, a hollow body long scale lap steel that he taps with his right hand for drum sounds, it sounds like a band. He can sing on top of it, insane. I've never seen him but Sonny Landreth kills it too. There's a video on YouTube with him and Derek Trucks jamming. They are having fun and holding their own. The guy on YouTube that makes slide guitars out of shovels is really good too. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Somebody posted a link to this video, and I really like the tone he gets on slide. I noticed he seems to lean into the lower strings, and gets what I describe as a vocal tone, somewhat reminiscent of what Derek Trucks gets. Any of y'all get that kind of sound? Wow, thanks, picker! I hadn't heard of him, but as good EXCELLENT as he is all-around, I sure should have. Now, you got me doin' some searchin' an' some readin', and it turns out, that part of that sound is from his using clean, high-headroom tube-amps and favoring various excellent overdrive and fuzz pedals- I believe it's one of his overdrives he stomps on in that vid, and I'll look further into that in a bit; and another good sized portion of that sound is that guitar, a steel-bodied Strat-stylee, a Mule Resophonic Guitars baritone 25.5" short-scale (for a baritone) Stratomule, custom-made by Matt Eich, with a "gold foil"* type pickup somewhere in the neck/middle position, and a mini-humbucker type at the bridge, both made by Mr. Eich... Tuned Baritone Standard, B - E - A - D - F# - B, lo-to-hi, a Perfect 4th below 'normal' Standard, with .017" or .018" through .064" gauges (which may seem very heavy, but at that lowered tuning on a normal Strat 25.5" scale-length, it'd be fairly normal in tension and feel). *(The "gold foil" style of pickup often found on cheap vintage guitars from the '60s and '70s, currently in vogue with more and more players) Besides all that, MOST of his sound, his tone, comes from his technique, playing pick, pick-and-fingers, fingerstyle, his "touch", his heart and mind, his vision. The above listed guitar, pickup, pedal, amp, string and tuning choices do contribute... ...but I'm sure he'd still "sound like him" on virtually any guitar and rig one might hand him- you know what I mean. I bet you would, too. EDIT: I came back to toss ya these, picker... [video:youtube] [video:youtube] 2 Quote Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headlow Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Every once in a while the Youtube recommended videos really are worth a watch.... They threw this up for me last week. I'd seen him review gear for Andertons in the UK a couple times, and knew he was an excellent player. But somehow I'd never taken the time to explore his music. The gig I've linked to is excellent. Great playing and tone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Fraser Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Wow, love his playing. Such effortless shifting from fretted notes to slide & back. Great stuff. 1 Quote Scott Fraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Wow, love his playing. Such effortless shifting from fretted notes to slide & back. Great stuff. I know, right?! 1 Quote Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 I contacted him through his website, and asked him about the tone I mentioned. His reply was pretty short, but confirmed what I thought. It seemed to me that when I heard that, he was picking a note on one of his E,A or D strings, then sliding up to a note 2 or 3 frets higher, and adding some vibrato by shaking the slide. I'm thinking the winding on the strings contributes to it. I'm sure it takes some practice to get it, and yes Caevan, his amp & pedal rig has to have a lot to do with it. With Derek Trucks, he'll get the 1st & 2nd notes, then silde on through to higher ones, which seems to increase what I'm talking about. Got to work on this, it's such a cool sound! 2 Quote Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I contacted him through his website, and asked him about the tone I mentioned. His reply was pretty short, but confirmed what I thought. It seemed to me that when I heard that, he was picking a note on one of his E,A or D strings, then sliding up to a note 2 or 3 frets higher, and adding some vibrato by shaking the slide. I'm thinking the winding on the strings contributes to it. I'm sure it takes some practice to get it, and yes Caevan, his amp & pedal rig has to have a lot to do with it. With Derek Trucks, he'll get the 1st & 2nd notes, then silde on through to higher ones, which seems to increase what I'm talking about. Got to work on this, it's such a cool sound! Oh, OK, you were meaning the way he rapidly shoots up into those notes on the lower strings, really giving them some momentum and drive. Good stuff. 1 Quote Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headlow Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 In case you're that way inclined heres an interview with Ariel. Loads of info on his roots as a guitar player. Grab yourself a coffee and enjoy some more of his playing too..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane hugo Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 apropos of nothing, I was at Harbor Freight yesterday and saw these - I love the colours, although I might only be able to use the gold, blue, red, and maybe the green one on my pinky: 4 Quote http://blip.fm/invite/WorkRelease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, hurricane hugo said: apropos of nothing, I was at Harbor Freight yesterday and saw these - I love the colours, although I might only be able to use the gold, blue, red, and maybe the green one on my pinky: The red and the blue might be similar enough to what Lowell George used for a slide, which I believe was an 11/16" sparkplug socket, maybe shorter than those... 3 Quote Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Listening to that first vid, I immediately thought of both Derek Trucks’ and Bonnie Raitt’ slide techniques. Also a bit of Chris Rea’s and Gary Clark, Jr.’s taste in dirt. But that fingering? Whooooooooooo! Quote Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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