Mighty Motif Max Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Yay, it's happened! https://kurzweil.com/2020/09/08/pc4-7_sp6-7/?fbclid=IwAR3vB0spYs0EBpKaDboiIWZc1PjbN3Yk7CoC83Bjiy2r57RfobwkeArDtf0 PC4-7 is under 20 lbs SP6-7 is under 18 lbs Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 PC4-7 Product Page SP6-7 Product Page Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 These guys - screwing up my next purchase plans and decisions. Shame on them! glad to see it! Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 The site getting hammered???? lol I can"t get it to load and I"ve got just 3 questions. Synth action, which one? And how much? Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Guess what? All those links are dead now. Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Semi-weighted synth I believe. Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Those weight specs are ridiculous. They must be using the action from the Studio-Logic Numa Compact 2? Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Possibly Medeli according to a Facebook comment I saw. Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Interesting. I don"t like their weighted action. But maybe they have a competitive semi weight synth action. It"s not like the others in the sub $2k category have bragging rights. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 From their Product Announcement page and Facebook post: Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Okay, while it's up - a few specs for the SP6-7: Keyboard: 76-key, semi-weighted action with velocity sensitive adjustable keys (SWA76) Height: (4.24â³) (10.78 cm) Depth: (14.07â³) (35.75 cm) Length: (46.54â³) (119.2 cm) Weight: (17.53 lb) (7.95 kg) Power: External Power Supply, 15VDC 2.5A The site is now down again as I'm writing this. PC4 specs when I can. Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Ok. PC4 Specs Keyboard: 76-key, semi-weighted action with velocity and pressure (aftertouch) sensitive adjustable keys (SWA76) Display: 480 x 272 pixel high resolution color LCD with adjustable brightness Polyphony: 256 Voice Polyphony, dynamically allocated Multitimbral: 16 parts (one per MIDI channel) Architecture: Dynamic VAST: Powerful synthesis engine, with user programmable DSP algs and routing. More DSP power than even our K Series instruments. 6-Operator FM Engine VA1 Inside: anti-aliasing, power-shaped oscillators and DSP processing from Kurzweil"s VA1 concept synth, capable of delivering authentic analog emulations as well as incredibly complex new sounds. Cascade Mode: lets the user route one layer through the DSP of any other layer within a program â up to 32 consecutive layers deep! Sample Flash Memory: 2 GB of re-loadable, non-volatile, user flash memory Factory Programs: 1000+ User Programs: 4096 Factory Multis: 50+ â featuring up to 16 independent zones User Multis: 4096 General MIDI: No Kurzweil String Resonance: Yes Master EQ/Compressor: Yes Effects: Over 1000 complex effect chains, incorporated into programs featuring our award winning effects â reverbs, delays, chorus, flange, phaser, EQs, distortions, rotary speaker simulators, compressors, and more 32 total FX units Controllers: 1 pitch wheel 1 modulation wheel 9 front panel sliders 9 Knobs 9 switches (assignable/zone mutes/KB3 control) 1 variation switch Tempo Controls w/ tap tempo 2 transpose switches Arp Controls Transport Controls *2 switch pedal inputs each supporting single switch pedal or single half damper pedal (1 switch/sustain pedal is included; half-damper pedals sold separately) 2 continuous control pedal inputs monopressure (aftertouch) Ribbon input (ribbon controller sold separately) Sequencer: 16 Tracks; 960 PPQ resolution. Song editing functions include both event and track-based tools like quantize, swing, remap, controller scaling and more. MIDI CC Step Sequencers: 16 simultaneous RIFFs: 16-per Multi Arpeggiators: 1-per Program, 16-per Multi Analog Outputs: Four (2 pairs) 1/4â³ balanced TRS analog (32-bit DACs) Automatic mono switching on main outs +21dBu maximum output 50Ω balanced source impedance Audio Inputs: Two 1/4â³ inputs One stereo 1/8â³ input (each with FX) for connecting your favorite MP3 player or other audio source for accompaniment playback Headphones: 1 back panel 1/4â³ headphone output 130mW into 32 ohm headphones MIDI: In, Out USB: Two USB ports (one A port / one B port) Complete MIDI functionality over USB User program/multi file backup via USB drive Operating System updates via USB drive Software Editors: External editors for Mac OS X, Windows PC and iOS* devices (*coming soon) FREE OS Updates: OS updates via USB drive Included Accessories: Power cable, Switch pedal, USB cable Height: 4.24â³ (10.78 cm) Depth: 14.07â³ (35.75 cm) Length: 46.54â³ (118.2 cm) Weight: 19.4 lb (8.8 kg) Power: External 15VDC 2.5A Power Supply Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I think I am likely to swap out my PC4 for the 76 key version. I suspect it would work as well for me as the 88 does for some of the things I'd now use the 88 for, but there are also scenarios where I could probably make more use of it if it were the smaller, lighter 76. One thing I've personally come to realize after getting the PC4 is just how much I prefer the ergonomics of a bottom board that doesn't have such a deep panel when I'm putting another board over it. And while the PC4 action is okay, it's not something so wonderful that I'd miss having it. So yeah, maybe the 76 will suit me better. That "SWA76" is not one of the Fatars, either as on their Artis 7 or the Numa Compacts. I guess Medeli, since that's been their alternate supplier of choice lately. I'll be really curious to see how it feels. I only wish it had been the same action as the Artis 7 because I know I'd be able to put the alternate springs I already have into it to make it about perfect for my tastes! But hopefully it's a nice one anyway. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Okay, so the same as the SP6-7 (SWA76), but with aftertouch. INTERESTING... Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Okay, so the same as the SP6-7 (SWA76), but with aftertouch. Parallels the PC4 vs. SP6, same action with and without AT. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Hmmm.... Very interesting Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Dang, thought for a second we had a rare 73/76 note weighted contender. I guess I'm a minority market that would really welcome shorter weighted keyboards. I'm a bit leery about Kurzweil reliability after my pc3 issues but there is no doubt that sound-wise it was a great all-rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I"m tired. ... I don"t suppose the keypad looking set of controls function as one shot sample triggers like on a Fantom or FA do they? Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Dang, thought for a second we had a rare 73/76 note weighted contender. I guess I'm a minority market that would really welcome shorter weighted keyboards. I'm a bit leery about Kurzweil reliability after my pc3 issues but there is no doubt that sound-wise it was a great all-rounder. +1. I had a moment of hope the SP6-7 would be a somewhat more expensive competitor to the Yamaha P121. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Seems they lost the mod wheel and 'PC4' lights while downsizing. And while the PC4-7 and SP6-7 share the same physical dimensions, there"s quite some (height) difference between their 88-note siblings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 My wife is very upset. I had told her that I was safe from GAS as long as there was no 76 key version... Quote -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 When they cut down the Forte to a 7 they kept the weighted action. I"m thrilled to see the PC4 with a synth action - with AT. Without the fat end cheek areas and without the glowing PC4. Proper upgrade from the Artis 7. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Cool.... I hope they have the same SW action as the Medeli SW action in the SP4-7 which I really like (except for sharp edges on some of 'em). Quote Gigs: Nord 5D 73, Kurz PC4-7 & SP4-7, Hammond SK1, Yamaha MX88 & P121, Numa Compact 2x, Casio CGP700, QSC K12, Yamaha DBR10, JBL515xt(2). Alto TS310(2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Cool.... I hope they have the same SW action as the Medeli SW action in the SP4-7 which I really like (except for sharp edges on some of 'em). That one apparently had another name according to Kurz specs (Medeli KB76FPU). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcvbnm098 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 When they cut down the Forte to a 7 they kept the weighted action. I"m thrilled to see the PC4 with a synth action - with AT. Without the fat end cheek areas and without the glowing PC4. Proper upgrade from the Artis 7. All nice upgrades indeed from the Artis 7...I'm personally disappointed though that they opted for the external power supply on this model. For a keyboard this powerful and at this price the external PS seems lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderGroundGr Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 A 61 model for me, please!!! Quote Kurzweil K2661 + full options,iMac 27",Mac book white,Apogee Element 24 + Duet,Genelec 8030A,Strymon Lex + Flint,Hohner Pianet T,Radial Key-Largo,Kawai K5000W,Moog Minitaur,Yamaha Reface YC + CP, iPad 9th Gen, Arturia Beatstep + V Collection 9 https://antonisadelfidis.bandcamp.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Yeah, would love a 61 too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 ... Seems they lost the mod wheel... Unless my eyes are fooling me I see a mod wheel... Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Yeah, would love a 61 too Yes, me too,- WHEN it got a Fatar TP8S or TP9S (from PC361/ K6). But it seems, they now go the Medelli route completely and I have no clue how these PC4-7 and imaginary PC4-6 actions will feel. I also wonder if Kurzweil overhauled/upgraded their pitchbend-wheel and mod-wheel mechanism ever. This is what drives me nuts most w/ my PC3 and even I replaced crappy Alpha w/ sealed ALPS pots. And I also hope, there´s enough space for the ribbon controller between keys and lower row buttons. A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Star_Guy Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I have been looking over the specs for the original PC4-8, It had 6 operator FM compatibility, KB3 Real Organ functionality and also dual stereo outputs (an "A" set & a "B" set"). Assuming that this PC4-7 also has this, that would make this keyboard a fairly viable alternative to either the MODX 7 and\or the YC61. Does anyone know if these separate outputs are also independently addressable as well, to allow different external effects processing on the "B" side? Quote ---------------------------------------------------------- Gig: Yamaha MODX7, NumaX 73 Piano Studio: Kawai ES-920; Hammond SK Pro 73; Yamaha Motif ES7 w/DX,VL,VH; Yamaha YC 73; Kawai MP-6; Numa Compact 2x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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