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Anybody have any experience using these in this application? I'm interested in a matched pair but can find very little about using them on piano.


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Any decent mic will work on "a piano," and the Roswell Mini K47 is certainly getting a reputation for a decent mic.

If you're only be recording one piano, for one style of music, in one place, then it pays to agonize over what's the correct mic setup. It will be worth your time. But think about all the other uses that you might put a Mini K47 to in your projects and you'll find that it, or a pair, will sound just fine on your piano with the proper combination of the instrument, acoustic environment, and placement. Oh - and the music, too.

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I would contact Matt directly and ask him. Most likely he can direct you to a customer or a video of what you are looking for.

info@roswellproaudio.com

of course you can always contact dB, he is affilliated with Roswell Pro Audio and possibly has recorded his piano with the mics you are looking at, as he does own a pair himself


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Thanks for the replies.
Yes primarily for the same piano, room, etc.
And I do plan on reaching out to Matt.
Any other mics in similar price range I should be looking at?


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found 3 different videos of K 47's on a piano here

https://roswellproaudio.com/pages/mini-k47-audio-samples

Originally Posted by jimmymio
Any other mics in similar price range I should be looking at?

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Thanks Dave.Very helpful.


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Since you want a matched pair for stereo, no, there is nothing else comparable at all.

There is one other mic worthy of consideration but the price has gone up quite a bit since I bought mine. Neat King Bee. The current price is still insanely low. It's a great mic, truly. Alas, it is butt ugly to a mud fence and quite heavy, you'd need a pair of solid boom stands with counterweights for some mic positions on a piano. And there is no matched pair available unless by random coincidence.

The K-47 is the way to go.


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Using the Mini k47 on piano is what made me want to work with Matt at Roswell.

We have a solo piano recording Bill Payne just did for us using Mini k47s which we published only yesterday.



Hope that's helpful.

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Thanks,
that was great Dave. Just the pair and no room mics?


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Yep.

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Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
We have a solo piano recording Bill Payne just did for us using Mini k47s which we published only yesterday.

Fantastic 2thu


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Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
Using the Mini k47 on piano is what made me want to work with Matt at Roswell.

We have a solo piano recording Bill Payne just did for us using Mini k47s which we published only yesterday.

Sweet! Do you know how the mics were placed?


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There’s a pic at 0:16 in the video that shows how he placed them.

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Sounds all purty!


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Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
There’s a pic at 0:16 in the video that shows how he placed them.

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Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
There’s a pic at 0:16 in the video that shows how he placed them.

dB

here you are


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Any opinions on the necessity for a matched pair? With these mics a matched pair costs $100 more than buying 2 separates. I could see if you were going to be doing something like an x-y config but if you record it like BP's piano, the sound sources themselves are slightly varied. I imagine the specs are failry tight to begin with and any difference would be extremely subtle and not audible.


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Microphone manufacturers offer matched pairs for people who request them. Generally the only thing that's matched is output level for a given SPL so you can set up a stereo pair, turn both mic preamp gain knobs to the same setting, and go. A matched pair might be worth while when buying a pair of hand-made boutique mics. Since those have more hand work in them than factory-made mics, there's more room for variation from one mic to the other.

The alternative is to listen to stereo pair, and if the stereo image is skewed to one side, you just adjust the gain to center it.

So, no, save the $100 if, most of the time, you'll just be using them as two mics, maybe on the same source, maybe on different sources.

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Thanks for the confirmation Mike.


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Originally Posted by Mike Rivers
A matched pair might be worth while when buying a pair of hand-made boutique mics.

and that is what we are discussing on this thread. Were it me, extra $100.00 knowing they are matched and the custom case is money well spent, but you are not me


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There is a resale value consideration here as well. A matched pair of mics will fetch more on the used market than a simple "pair of mics", in fact you'd be better off selling unmatched mics individually.

Higher resale value means lower overall cost, your tools retain value. FWIW, on Ebay since 2000 with 896 feedback at 100% positive and I've been buying and selling long before that, also locally.


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Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
There is a resale value consideration here as well. A matched pair of mics will fetch more on the used market than a simple "pair of mics",

agreed, and I had thought about that but didn't include it in my post


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