Nathanael_I Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I'd be certain that Behringer has some of the lowest manufacturing costs in the industry - less than ASM for sure. I'm not so sure Behringer's costs are lower. I believe ASM has some affiliation with Medeli, another low cost manufacturer. Well, there is a $500 difference between an ASM Hydrasynth desktop and the keyboard version. So for Medili, its only $500 retail for a 49 note poly-AT keyboard, making it likely $125 of actual build cost given typical 4x COGS "back of the napkin" estimates. Medeli's annual turnover is around $50M. Behringer is about $81M, making them broadly comparable. I think the point still stands that if ASM can produce a poly AT keyboard for a $1300 synth, Behringer is capable of doing so for the same price or less. I think we are going to find in the next several years that making keyboards poly-AT is not that big of a deal - it just isn't something the market demanded, and that once it does, it isn't CS-80 expensive to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 OK My mom said I could only have one more clone. CS80, OBxa, or Arp 2600? And I have to tell her why..... Quote RT-3/U-121/Leslie 21H and 760/Saltarelle Nuage/MOXF6/MIDIhub, SL-880/Nektar T4/Numa Cx2/Deepmind12/Virus TI 61/SL61 mk2 Stylophone R8/Behringer RD-8/Proteus 1/MP-7/Zynthian 4 MPC1k/JV1010/Unitor 8/Model D & 2600/WX-5&7/VL70m/DMP-18 Pedals Natal drums/congas etc & misc bowed/plucked/blown instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 CS80, OBxa, or Arp 2600? YES. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Emm Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 OK My mom said I could only have one more clone. CS80, OBxa, or Arp 2600? And I have to tell her why..... Ha ha! From your gear list, I'd have to ask: do you feel more of a need for a classic poly or a more deeply experiment-friendly semi-modular? We all know what a 2600 can do as a filter bank or middling nerve center for other modular gear. It shines there, whereas despite its nice round voice, its not the end-all soloing synth. The OB is much-improved as software recently, whereas the pending clone (IIRC) retains issues like the oscillator full-on/one-half/off design. In that case, it depends on what you want an OB to do. That's too faithfully vintage for me, personally. It doesn't lend itself to much stylistic range (IMO) because it was unapologetically a Big American Balls 80s synth. Tom's recent Two-Voice w/patchbay and OB-6 are far more up-to-speed. The CS80, if done even halfway right, has a noted poly sound, but can also be a creditable monosynth. Unless you "need" a 2600 as part of the giant mixer that IS any studio, the CS80 covers the most bases. People think "Blade Runner" too easily when its capable of a lot more. So buy that one and tell your mom its because I said so. Quote "I like that rapper with the bullet in his nose!" "Yeah, Bulletnose! One sneeze and the whole place goes up!" ~ "King of the Hill" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Paxton Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Having recently acquired the OB-Xd plugin, I'm actually reconsidering my longstanding plan of getting an OBxa once they're available because I'm afraid it might literally suck up all of my time and I'd start neglecting the things that allow me to stay alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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