MathOfInsects Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 [video:youtube]https://youtu.be/tB8ITQGp-is "The instrument has the same number of strings as a normal piano, but with the black key hammer action removed. So, you can literally only play in C major. With no 24 major and minor keys â let alone so many rich colours â any change in tone can only be achieved by playing the white keys. And with no separation of black and white keys, you must have to relearn all your note references." Article here Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Well, you can play in A minor and D minor at least. Also, G major pentatonic and Em pentatonic.That's 5 keys more of less so their math is off a bit. We played a gig long ago and there was a fellow there who ran to the piano and started jamming all cool with us when we kicked off C'est La Vie in C. There was a house piano and he only could play in C. That said, he could really play in C. We would have had him play on everything if he knew other keys. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PianoManChuck Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Now they need a matching all black keys piano! At least with black keys you can't really make a mistake Quote PianoManChuck Authorized reseller: Casio, Dexibell, Kurzweil, Nord, iLoud, Viscount Keyboard Reviews + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16251 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Casio can use this idea for their PX-S pianos. Quote AvantGrand N2 | ES520 | Gallien-Krueger MK & MP | https://soundcloud.com/pete36251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizzle Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 That looks like a nightmare a concert pianist would have before a big recital. Quote It's not a clone, it's a Suzuki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Music Bird Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 That is strange. You can play in D Dorian, G Mixolydian, and E Phrygian, and also the C pelog (C E F G B C) and C slèndro (C D E G A C) scales. Don"t forget F Lydian and B Locrian though. Quote Yamaha MX49, Casio SK1/WK-7600, Korg Minilogue, Alesis SR-16, Casio CT-X3000, FL Studio, many VSTs, percussion, woodwinds, strings, and sound effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelBLupowitz Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Now they need a matching all black keys piano! At least with black keys you can't really make a mistake Also you can cover several of the most popular tunes in the Stevie Wonder canon. Quote Samuel B. Lupowitz Musician. Songwriter. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re Pete Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Someone must of really hated playing in key of C# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 That looks like a nightmare a concert pianist would have before a big recital. Or any player. Even the start of the video is like a dream/nightmare where she's wearing the smock, walks behind the wall and is dressed up. Quote "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I would hate playing this piano, even in the key of C. My visual markers are gone. Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Simplifies technique a great deal. You only have to practice one scale shape, whatever other keys are possible are also structured as all white keys. Reduces the number of shapes necessary to master for chord voicing as well. If digital - transposition can be done electronically changing the note value of keys. There"s no visual difference between anything so like a guitar it"s probably a good idea to mark off some keys with a dot to or two dots to show where a few pitches actually are - especially for beginners. And the number of keys you can play in are too limited. As usually it"s silly because so many great players have shown that mastery of the black and white key system is possible. The pedagogy for it is well established. And the benefits aren"t potent enough to outweigh what you lose. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just fine for those jam sessions where a sax player calls Impressions... Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PianoMan51 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Now they need a matching all black keys piano! At least with black keys you can't really make a mistake Chuck gets it. You can buy little harps that have seven strings and are tuned to a pentatonic scale. And he"s right. You literally can"t play a wrong note. Great for musical children of all ages. This piano is diatonic, so OMG! you can play an occasional wrong note. How inconsiderate of the musically inept. I appreciate the marketing blurb that notes that this special piano has the same number of strings as a normal piano. Since you can"t play them they can only be heard when the damper is raised. But since they only sound the 'bad" notes, I think they are the 'unsympathetic strings". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 The thing is, I happen to agree that the piano represents terrible industrial design. The entire western system is based on a "default to C" that hasn't been relevant since at least the days of 12th-root-of-2 equal temperament. Any instructor of piano or music theory in general struggles to explain logically why the 'black notes' aren't "less than" the white notes, or some alteration of them, instead of completely the same as them in every way except for their outdated naming and the completely (now) arbitrary design of the instrument. So an ergonomic version of the piano that recognizes 12 equal octave-divisions, would be kind of interesting to me. But this one's dumb. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinkings Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Where"s C?! 𤯠Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reezekeys Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just fine for those jam sessions where a sax player calls Impressions... If you can fit a capo on it for the B section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillearning Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 You could play the verses and piano solo in Low Spark of High Heeled Boys. Quote I would like to apologize to anyone I have not yet offended. Please be patient and I will get to you shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelBLupowitz Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 You could play the verses and piano solo in Low Spark of High Heeled Boys.And all but the prechorus of No Quarter! Quote Samuel B. Lupowitz Musician. Songwriter. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 For people wanting to only play Lean On Me. Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16251 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 They could sell these pianos like harmonicas. Have one for each key. Quote AvantGrand N2 | ES520 | Gallien-Krueger MK & MP | https://soundcloud.com/pete36251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Sure would suck for playing the blues... Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Endorsed by: George Shearing, Ray Charles, and Stevie Wonder. "best piano I've seen!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogman1 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 The ultimate "glissando machine"! Quote Tom Nord Electro 5D, Modal Cobalt 8, Yamaha upright piano, numerous plug-ins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just fine for those jam sessions where a sax player calls Impressions... If you can fit a capo on it for the B section. I've already checked out by then Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonizer Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 It would solve the FA-06 problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenner13 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Well, I"d better go practice Bb some more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 In the comments: Now try Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg22 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 So an ergonomic version of the piano that recognizes 12 equal octave-divisions, would be kind of interesting to me. Like this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 So an ergonomic version of the piano that recognizes 12 equal octave-divisions, would be kind of interesting to me. Like this one: Oh no! It"s back! Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I was immediately reminded of some old horror flick where people suddenly have no faces. The black keys were my enemies as a kid, so this would have seemed like a real problem solver. Now, its a mix of creepy & hilarious. She did a beautiful job of showing it off, but its NOT likely to become the alternate controller of choice. Quote "I want to be an intellectual, but I don't have the brainpower. The absent-mindedness, I've got that licked." ~ John Cleese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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