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An All-White-Key Piano, For No Apparent Reason
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"The instrument has the same number of strings as a normal piano, but with the black key hammer action removed. So, you can literally only play in C major.

With no 24 major and minor keys – let alone so many rich colours – any change in tone can only be achieved by playing the white keys. And with no separation of black and white keys, you must have to relearn all your note references."

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Well, you can play in A minor and D minor at least. Also, G major pentatonic and Em pentatonic.That's 5 keys more of less so their math is off a bit.

We played a gig long ago and there was a fellow there who ran to the piano and started jamming all cool with us when we kicked off C'est La Vie in C.
There was a house piano and he only could play in C. That said, he could really play in C.

We would have had him play on everything if he knew other keys.


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Now they need a matching all black keys piano! At least with black keys you can't really make a mistake smile


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Casio can use this idea for their PX-S pianos. w00t


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That looks like a nightmare a concert pianist would have before a big recital.


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That is strange. You can play in D Dorian, G Mixolydian, and E Phrygian, and also the C pelog (C E F G B C) and C slèndro (C D E G A C) scales.
Don’t forget F Lydian and B Locrian though.

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Originally Posted by PianoManChuck
Now they need a matching all black keys piano! At least with black keys you can't really make a mistake smile
Also you can cover several of the most popular tunes in the Stevie Wonder canon.


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Someone must of really hated playing in key of C#

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Originally Posted by Morizzle
That looks like a nightmare a concert pianist would have before a big recital.
Or any player. Even the start of the video is like a dream/nightmare where she's wearing the smock, walks behind the wall and is dressed up.


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I would hate playing this piano, even in the key of C. My visual markers are gone.


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Simplifies technique a great deal. You only have to practice one scale shape, whatever other keys are possible are also structured as all white keys. Reduces the number of shapes necessary to master for chord voicing as well. If digital - transposition can be done electronically changing the note value of keys.

There’s no visual difference between anything so like a guitar it’s probably a good idea to mark off some keys with a dot to or two dots to show where a few pitches actually are - especially for beginners. And the number of keys you can play in are too limited.

As usually it’s silly because so many great players have shown that mastery of the black and white key system is possible. The pedagogy for it is well established. And the benefits aren’t potent enough to outweigh what you lose.


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Just fine for those jam sessions where a sax player calls Impressions...


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Originally Posted by PianoManChuck
Now they need a matching all black keys piano! At least with black keys you can't really make a mistake smile
Chuck gets it. You can buy little harps that have seven strings and are tuned to a pentatonic scale. And he’s right. You literally can’t play a wrong note. Great for musical children of all ages.

This piano is diatonic, so OMG! you can play an occasional wrong note. How inconsiderate of the musically inept.

I appreciate the marketing blurb that notes that this special piano has the same number of strings as a normal piano. Since you can’t play them they can only be heard when the damper is raised. But since they only sound the ‘bad’ notes, I think they are the ‘unsympathetic strings’.

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The thing is, I happen to agree that the piano represents terrible industrial design. The entire western system is based on a "default to C" that hasn't been relevant since at least the days of 12th-root-of-2 equal temperament. Any instructor of piano or music theory in general struggles to explain logically why the 'black notes' aren't "less than" the white notes, or some alteration of them, instead of completely the same as them in every way except for their outdated naming and the completely (now) arbitrary design of the instrument.

So an ergonomic version of the piano that recognizes 12 equal octave-divisions, would be kind of interesting to me.

But this one's dumb.


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Where’s C?! 🤯

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Originally Posted by MAJUSCULE
Just fine for those jam sessions where a sax player calls Impressions...

If you can fit a capo on it for the B section.

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You could play the verses and piano solo in Low Spark of High Heeled Boys.


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Originally Posted by stillearning
You could play the verses and piano solo in Low Spark of High Heeled Boys.
And all but the prechorus of No Quarter!


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They could sell these pianos like harmonicas. Have one for each key.


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Sure would suck for playing the blues...


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Originally Posted by Reezekeys
Originally Posted by MAJUSCULE
Just fine for those jam sessions where a sax player calls Impressions...

If you can fit a capo on it for the B section.

I've already checked out by then laugh


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It would solve the FA-06 problem.

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Well, I’d better go practice Bb some more...


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Originally Posted by MathOfInsects
So an ergonomic version of the piano that recognizes 12 equal octave-divisions, would be kind of interesting to me.

Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK4REjqGc9w

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Originally Posted by gg22
Originally Posted by MathOfInsects
So an ergonomic version of the piano that recognizes 12 equal octave-divisions, would be kind of interesting to me.

Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK4REjqGc9w

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I was immediately reminded of some old horror flick where people suddenly have no faces. The black keys were my enemies as a kid, so this would have seemed like a real problem solver. Now, its a mix of creepy & hilarious. eek laugh She did a beautiful job of showing it off, but its NOT likely to become the alternate controller of choice.


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