kwyn Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Can someone recommend a decent mic stand with boom that won't sag with the weight of my mic and can reach over a 2 tier keys stand which I play standing up? Links to Sweetwater/Amazon whatever would be great. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I hate booms because people are always bumping into them, so years ago switched to a gooseneck attachment on a regular mic stand. I have no idea what brand... it's old and currently in a club, but if you go this route check reviews because some newer ones sag. I set the stand with me behind the keyboards or DJ gear, so it's kind of a different approach - which you may or may not like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losendoskeys Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Get a headset mike, it is much better and so much easier to move around! Quote Yamaha CP70B;Roland XP30/AXSynth/Fantom/FA76/XR;Hammond XK3C SK2; Korg Kronos 73;ProSoloist Rack+; ARP ProSoloist; Mellotron M4000D; GEM Promega2; Hohner Pianet N, Roland V-Grand,Voyager XL, RMI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Get a headset mike, it is much better and so much easier to move around! Impossible to "work" the mic, you get one position. Also impossible to shout "What key" if you get a request and somebody starts in. I've had no luck with long goose necks, they sag. Agree with the bump hazard, the base of the stand should be behind the keyboards or at one side. Mic stand is an important purchase, buy nice or buy twice. Skip all the cheap stuff. That said, you shouldn't need to go top dollar. I still use a pair of K&M (labelled AKG) stands that I bought new in the 1980's and they work perfectly. I've seen much newer Chinese stands at Goodwill many times, broken and worthless. There certainly are better available than K&M but that should be your minimum requirement. Shop around, check pawn shops, music shops etc. A high quality used stand in working condition should work for a long time. Consider a counterweight so you can raise the stand up out of your way and "drop" the mic into your zone. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Get a headset. The benefits out weigh the problems. What kind you get depends on the environment. IEMs or wedges, does it double as a vocoder mic etc.... Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMcM Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I typically use an adjustable clamp connected to my keyboard stand. I cut the length of an old straight mic stand down and mounted a boom on it. Works great and no floor space used up. But when I need to use a keyboard stand that the clamp won't work with, I purchased a Gator Frameworks Boom Stand. Very sturdy, easily adjustable with a nice long telescoping boom. I also have a head worn wireless, but don't really care for it because it makes it impossible to work the mic for various effects, and the worst part is the audience will hear when you yell at the guitarist to turn the !@#$ down. Quote Wm. David McMahan I Play, Therefore I Am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Hit the kill/cough switch. Either on the transmitter or the foot switch. If it happens often fire the guitarist. Don"t work with amateurs. Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nightime Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 This is what I use Pyle Mic Stand It is very solid. The legs are like the legs on a speaker stand, so you can adjust them to fit in the available space. The boom is plenty long enough, and will tighten to the point of being immobile And the price is good, too Quote "In the beginning, Adam had the blues, 'cause he was lonesome. So God helped him and created woman. Now everybody's got the blues." Willie Dixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I have had two. The first, that works with my z-stand and my x-stands, is an onstage mic adapter that tightens into an open tube on the stand. When I got my Spider Pro, this wouldn't work, and it came with one--but the problem there is that every time I unscrewed the boom it had the habit of taking the nut off with it, and without that nut the bolt can fall down inside the stand. This happened once right before a gig (I didn't realize the nut was not on the stand but on the boom) and I had to duct-tape a kick drum stand to the top of my keyboard stand for the first set LOL! That was quicker than taking off my keyboards, unscrewing the five very long screws and turning the stand upside down to get the bolt out (which I did between sets actually). You can buy a metal top instead of the plastic one but honestly the plastic is fine--my solution was to fit a nut under the top on the inside and then replace the top nut with a larger one so that I didn't have that little adapter on there. Now the 5/8" mic boom screws right onto this larger nut and it's not going anywhere, very sturdy. I did get a better boom arm when my old one kept slipping, I upgraded to a K&M boom and it's very nice. Rock solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I like to set my mic stand on the side, with the base extended fairly high. I kind of interlock the stand feet (if it's a tripod) with my keys stand's feet (I use a table-style stand with four legs). I find I can get it out of the way of my hands but still fairly stable. This is with backline stands, generally speaking, so at times there is just a POS stand that can't do the job... that's when you plead your case to another band member who maybe doesn't need as reliable a stand Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelBLupowitz Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I own a headset mic, and it would be the fix for a number of my performance frustrations, but it just doesn't do it for me. There's something about the look that doesn't work for me -- I think it's sort of like a keytar, in that it's an effective solution to an age-old problem that comes out looking either retro, sci-fi/futuristic/high tech, or kitchy depending on the setting. Any and all of those things work for some folks, but none of them really suit my general stage presentation. Particularly when I'm singing lead, it feels weird not to have something to sing into (even Peter Gabriel will use a dummy handheld or boom mic when he has a headset mic on, and I'd say his musical style lends itself more to that sort of thing). It's kind of my loss, though, because it would really help with my L-configuration of keyboards and my talkbox... Quote Samuel B. Lupowitz Musician. Songwriter. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 As an aside, i have a couple nice mics and I don't really want to buy another one (headset). I could definitely see the pluses though. I like being able to back off the mic though. I'd be fine with a mic stand, but for one little problem: I tend to forgot the *@#$ thing. Anything that is loose and doesn't fit into a case is at high risk for being left at home. My boom arm fits in. I guess I could always bungie it around my keyboard stand bag or something, and don't try to use it between gigs (when gigs come back)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Hi Kwyn. I always use K&M boom mic stands. The are built like tree trunks and never wilt. For standing with two keyboards I had a K&M keyboard stand adapted to take just the top of the boom. It works like a dream and means that I have a surprisingly small footprint on stage. :0 Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 ^ K&M is quality stuff. Their speaker stands are among the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Kaenel Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I use a similar setup to xKnuckles, but without the custom mount mod. I have a mini-boom where I've unscrewed the base and replaced it with a clamp; I attach that to my keyboard stand: Mini-Boom mic (for example) Clamp Clamp w/Swivel Quote Legend '70s Compact, Jupiter-Xm, Studiologic Numa X 73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyn Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Those are awesome ideas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Doh, can't believe I never considered that clamp idea....I'm about as handy as a foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mike Metlay Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 If you are willing to throw money at the problem, Latch Lake makes the best mic stands in America, if not the world. They're what world-class studios use to hold up heavy and priceless vintage tube mics in Decca Trees. Recently LL announced a more affordable range of stands that are within reach of people with normal human budgets. These stands are heavy, indestructible, well-balanced, and do not sag, ever, if you set them up right. Quote Dr. Mike Metlay (PhD in nuclear physics, golly gosh) Musician, Author, Editor, Educator, Impresario, Online Radio Guy, Cut-Rate Polymath, and Kindly Pedant Editor-in-Chief, Bjooks ~ Author of SYNTH GEMS 1 clicky!: more about me ~ my radio station (and my fam) ~ my local tribe ~ my day job ~ my book ~ my music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I don't have a recommendation for an actual stand, but I like the K&M 21120 mic boom. Lots of length and it's pretty sturdy. I've even used it with an AT-2035 condenser mic and shockmount without any issues. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/KM21120BK--k-and-m-21120-2-piece-telescopic-mic-boom I actually use it with an adapter from K&M that lets me connect it right to my keyboard stand, and I've also used it with the On-Stage adapter that works with many types of keyboard stands (I use that on a two-tier Z-stand). Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcvbnm098 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I use a similar setup to xKnuckles, but without the custom mount mod. I have a mini-boom where I've unscrewed the base and replaced it with a clamp; I attach that to my keyboard stand: Mini-Boom mic (for example) Clamp Clamp w/Swivel Damn, that is slick!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nightime Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I have a stand case that holds my amp stands, my monitor stand and my mike stand. That way I never forget it I'm another that raises the stand high, and the boom angles down. I come in from the left side, and I have so much to my left, what with my monitor, mixer, Vent, plus I end up with PA speakers somewhat in my way. That's why I went with a stand with legs that are easily adjustable. The Pyle that I use has a pin that goes through a hole to secure the height. So if it somehow comes loose, it will not drop Quote "In the beginning, Adam had the blues, 'cause he was lonesome. So God helped him and created woman. Now everybody's got the blues." Willie Dixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyn Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 I may try the clip with a gooseneck. Anyone see issues with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 If it happens often fire the guitarist. Attack the problem at the source, heheh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadDog1123 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I have the same K&M keyboard stand. How did you adapt it to add the boom adapter? DIY or purchased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe P Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Kwyn, I use this On Stage attachment onto which I screwed a mic boom. It's super sturdy and since the boom can be so short it never droops. Cheap too. I cobbled the boom off of another stand. I bought it 2 years ago, wish I bought 20 years ago! Maybe it can work with your tier arms? On Stage KSA7575 Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassdad Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I'm surprised that no one else experiences my problem = every type of boom/mic holder I've tried that attached to my keyboard stand (in order to try to save stage space) was in practicality totally unusable because of the key "hitting" noise that is transmitted through the stand to the boom then to the mic. Hearing the "thump, thump, thump" of hitting the keys and the key action coming through the mic is absolutely unacceptable IMHO. Quote Ludwig van Beethoven: “To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable.” My Rig: Yamaha MOXF8 (used mostly for acoustic piano voices); Motion Sound KP-612SX & SL-512. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEKEYS Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 practicality totally unusable because of the key "hitting" noise that is transmitted through the stand to the boom then to the mic. This is a good point. Have others experienced this? I used an On-Stage adapter on an X stand and it was brilliant and no thumping as mentioned but i get how that could happen. Ive just changed to a Stay slim which has no mic adapter included unlike their bigger stand. Im looking at how i can adapt it but presently its in covid lockdown in my bands practise room so i cant access it. Your point is a very good one as i could see that as a possibilty with the Stay because id have to gerryrig a solution. Ironically the x stand with adaptor was silent and worked well. The keyboard is bouncy on the Stay stand so it could be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEKEYS Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Ps: cass what type of mic are you using? Edit: thinking about your problem...Cass does the attached upright of the mic holder actually touch the keyboard. Direct touch of the upright will do that. Like when you use a separate mic stand and its touching the keyboard youll definately get booming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe P Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I'm surprised that no one else experiences my problem = every type of boom/mic holder I've tried that attached to my keyboard stand (in order to try to save stage space) was in practicality totally unusable because of the key "hitting" noise that is transmitted through the stand to the boom then to the mic. Hearing the "thump, thump, thump" of hitting the keys and the key action coming through the mic is absolutely unacceptable IMHO. I have not experienced this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I haven't noticed that either, I've done 4-500 gigs over the last 6 years with my current band, most with attached-to-stand boom arms. I have used Sennheiser 835 and later the 935 dynamic mics if that matters. If I use a stand I don't let it touch the keyboard if I can help it, mainly because I try to avoid scratches As far as a gooseneck--I bought a longer gooseneck to try with my stand attachment but I found it a bit droopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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