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SoundJack - low latency solution for internet rehearsal
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Spoke with some university friends today trying to rehearse remotely. In addition to advancements being made with JamKazam (new version due out soon) they tell me SoundJack is doing a good job. The example below has both slow and fast tempo numbers and these two are hitting together surprisingly well. The example also shows live performance streaming making use of a second computer to take the burden off of the first.



https://www.soundjack.eu/

If you give it a go, let us know what you think!


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Now I just need people who want to play with me. frown


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Now I just need people who want to play with me. frown

No respect, Joe. My girlfriend calls me. She says, “come over, there’s no one home”. I went over, there was no one home.


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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
Originally Posted by Joe Muscara
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Now I just need people who want to play with me. frown

No respect, Joe. My girlfriend calls me. She says, “come over, there’s no one home”. I went over, there was no one home.
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This little raspberry pi pc is apparently optimized for low latency with SoundJack,
https://symonics.com/fastmusic/

They are talking about 15ms latency within a 16 mile radius. Video is through a different app and is a bit slower. Audio interface is a focusrite over USB.

There’s a video demonstration in the link above but I can’t insert it here.


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I am skeptical. This morning, the round-trip ping to a guitar player across town (7 mi) was 64-70 ms.

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Originally Posted by Bradley B
I am skeptical. This morning, the round-trip ping to a guitar player across town (7 mi) was 64-70 ms.

That’s not good for the music making.
A bit more info. Are you plugged into Ethernet on both sides? And using a low latency audio interface on both sides?


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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
There’s a video demonstration in the link above but I can’t insert it here.
I was feeling the latency - particularly when the female vocalist took a verse. Either that or her phrasing was really weird.


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Originally Posted by Wastrel
Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
There’s a video demonstration in the link above but I can’t insert it here.
I was feeling the latency - particularly when the female vocalist took a verse. Either that or her phrasing was really weird.

Yes, I’m under the impression that the second demo was over 5G.

Her phrasing was odd, but I don’t know if that was latency as much as just her. The internet is inherently slow and efforts to make live play quick enough to be effective and satisfying have been lacking. So any steps toward improving the tech are welcome... especially of we're going to be careful about sharing breathing room for some time yet. A silver lining, perhaps.


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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
Originally Posted by Bradley B
I am skeptical. This morning, the round-trip ping to a guitar player across town (7 mi) was 64-70 ms.

That’s not good for the music making.
A bit more info. Are you plugged into Ethernet on both sides? And using a low latency audio interface on both sides?
This was a round-trip network delay test between source/destination WAN IPs. It was measured by my ASUS router. The minimum round-trip time was 63 ms. Usually, the one-way delay is taken to be half of that.

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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
There’s a video demonstration in the link above but I can’t insert it here.
I was feeling the latency - particularly when the female vocalist took a verse. Either that or her phrasing was really weird.


Her phrasing was odd, but I don’t know if that was latency as much as just her.
Maybe the perceived latency at her end was causing her to be hesitant. IDK


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