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Bee sting?

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Really strange. Why just the left hand?
Are there any other activities you do that you get this reaction from?

It looks like allergic reaction. I had something like it once in my left knee, but that’s because I banged it on the floor under the cap playing with my 2 month old.

My brother had something like it in both feet as a kid. He was allergic to penicillin.


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So you're saying size matters...?

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Oh, wait...Bones did that to Kirk by giving him a shot, then gave him another shot to cure it. Go see Bones, he'll get you fixed right up.

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Does this mean we're going to start getting "Increase your hand size with these simple pills - it'll drive the women crazy" type of spam mails now?

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Wow, Mark! What happened?

I wish you a speedy recovery.


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Got stung by a couple of bees on Thursday - once in the base of the thumb and once above the elbow. I've only gotten stung one other occurrence 3 years ago or so, but like 7 times. It seems to get worse each time and coincides with what I'm reading about anaphylaxis.

Severe headache and nausea for a couple of hours and hives on my legs and maybe elsewhere. I had my phone at the ready in case I felt my breathing go south but fortunately not that bad. Couple of doses of Benadryl yesterday and most of the swelling has subsided today.

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Oh, wait...Bones did that to Kirk by giving him a shot, then gave him another shot to cure it. Go see Bones, he'll get you fixed right up.
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Man I hate those little F**kers. This time at least my doc prescribed an EpiPen in case of future occurrence.

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I wish you a speedy recovery.

Thanks Rudy. I didn't notice until I posted this morning but in the second pic my lab Stella is comparing the size of her "hands" as well love.

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So the "Rachmaninoff Pills" infomercial backfired, eh?


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Wow. Get well soon.

Be thankful it was bees and not wasps.

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Was mowing the lawn a few years ago and drove over a next in the ground. Nine bee stings. Felt a little weird for a couple of hours...sort of this dizzy-ish malaise...but okay after that. Find that nest and nuke it! Have someone else do it, of course... cool


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Originally Posted by The Real MC
Wow. Get well soon.

Be thankful it was bees and not wasps.

Thanks Mike. I got stung by a wasp when I was a kid. I remember it as hurting a lot more but I had no side effects.
But who knows today?

My second sting was due to the "annihilate all" assault on the nest under the dry-rot garden timbers I was attempting to remove. I was maybe 6 feet or so away and spraying flying insect foam. One of them made it through and I could actually see him in flight come straight for me. IIRC that's the one that got my hand.

I'm sure any that survived ended up posting pics of their swollen wings Python.

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Originally Posted by Markyboard
I'm sure any that survived ended up posting pics of their swollen wings Python.

Take these swollen wings
And learn to fly again
And learn to live so free . . .

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At least with a wasp there's no poison, just hurts, right? I'm allergic to bees and even just one will swell me way up.


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Next time you want your left hand to be bigger, just hold it closer to the lens than your right hand; We'll all be convinced, and it hurts much less.

I feel your pain. Some years back, after 4 stings on an ankle (yellow jackets, which are wasps -- hard to tell from ground-nesting bees), the doc was concerned enough by the amount of swelling / metabolic symptoms that she prescribed an epi-pen. It appears that my allergy to stings is increasing as I age. I wonder if the 4-year-old epi-pen is still potent...


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Markey, I am so sorry to hear this! I know it hurts, the last time I tangled with Yellow Jackets mowing grass, I was woosy/sick to my stomach for several hours. Head ache followed and I did not feel right for a day or so!


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Ouch! Get well soon!

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"Notice: MPN advises against any forum members attempting to enlarge any other body parts via this method."

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Originally Posted by Moonglow
Was mowing the lawn a few years ago and drove over a next in the ground. Nine bee stings. Felt a little weird for a couple of hours...sort of this dizzy-ish malaise...but okay after that. Find that nest and nuke it! Have someone else do it, of course... cool

STOP!

I MEAN FULL STOP!

We need to talk.

Bees...honey bees (Apis mellifera), that is, do NOT live in the ground. Bumble bees (Apis bombus) do live in the ground, but are not typically going to come after you in quantity--their nests are not generally all that large, not to mention the fact that they're conspicuously larger than bees--something that people tend to notice.

If Moonglow ran over a nest in the ground, that's most likely yellowjackets (there are various critters that come under the yellowjacket label and there's some overlap with hornets, too...yes, it can get confusing).

Obviously, I don't know what critter came after Markyboard, and the idea that they were living in old wood doesn't rule out honey bees, although it strikes me as unlikely. Honey bees have a sort of mental calculus that they go through when they're looking for a new home and tops on the list is a certain amount of open space. Not knowing what the wood pile looked like, I can't say that it was too tight for bees, but wood piles are typically just not that high on their list of prospective homes. For one thing, they prefer to be higher off the ground if possible.

Wasps (particularly paper wasps) or yellowjackets (living in the ground under the wood, perhaps?) would be my first guesses for Markyboard's assailants.

Okay, so why am I making a fuss about this? Because I've been keeping bees for 25 years or so and I'm having an increasingly hard time keeping them alive from year to year. A lot of it's due to herbicides and pesticides, but there are still people who panic when they see anything with wings and a pointy butt...then out comes the bug spray. Yes, bees can cause an anaphylactic reaction, and having been stung many, many times, I can attest that their stings hurt, but please, please, please don't kill them unnecessarily. And please don't blame them for stings due to other critters. I and other bee keepers are having a hard enough time as it is without having people give "bees" a bad rap.

Any chance of posting a picture of one of the gals that stung you for ID purposes?

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Thank you for educating me about bees, yellowjackets, etc. I ended up dumping some gas in the hole that contained their nest and that was the end of them.


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If resorting to gasoline, it actually works better for killing bugs (whether fire ants, or whatnot) if you don't light it. The fumes poison/suffocate the bugs. If you light the gasoline, it draws air into the hive to feed the flames, so the bugs get a fresh supply of air. No--very little of the heat reaches down into the hive, so you're not going to kill them that way.

Note that this is worse for the environment because the gasoline enters the soil and can pollute the water and soil.

Use boiling water instead.

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Originally Posted by GRollins
Any chance of posting a picture of one of the gals that stung you for ID purposes?

Grey


I spotted a couple today hovering around the Hosta plants where we went at it. I'm fairly certain these are yellow jackets and not honey bees. I'm not saying they live in the wood itself, more likely in the ground around the plants. This was definitely the case a few years ago when I got stung. Btw It's not a wood pile but up to 3 stacked timbers on the ground used as a border between the gardens and the lawn.

I'll pass on taking a pic as I only have my phone camera and I'd have to get closer than I'd like.

I know where you're coming from Gray. We stayed at an Air Bee&Bee a couple of years ago where the owner maintained honey bees. It was quite fascinating and I liked those guys. But these yellow jackets are a nuisance and have broken any treaties that were in place. Evictions are back on the table here in VA and these have to go.

Let it Bee...not in my yard. mad saber

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I'm not a big fan of yellowjackets. They're okay as long as you're not near their nests. In fact, I've stepped on them (literally) in the fall when they tend to hover just above the ground as they search for food, and they just shake themselves off and fly away.

But...

Get near one of their nests and they will tear you a new asshole. The problem is that their nests are close to invisible, being only a hole in the ground about the size of the end of your finger and it's not unusual for that to be hidden under something else.

Once upon a time, my uncle came to me and told me that he had a cherry tree down on his land in the hills...did I want the wood? Being a woodworker guy, I'm not one to turn down free black cherry, so I said yes. Well, it turned out that there was a yellowjacket nest right next to the tree. Worse yet, there was poison ivy. Needless to say, the yellowjackets had a field day with me and managed to tattoo the poison ivy juice into my skin. I washed thoroughly, but was only able to get the surface. The subcutaneous stuff was there to stay. I don't remember how many stings I got--at least eight or ten--but the combination of the stings and poison ivy made me pretty miserable.

So although yellowjackets do play a role as pollinators, I'd just as soon let my bees do the job and terminate the yellowjackets with extreme prejudice. I dasn't like them at all.

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Dang, Mark!

Get well soon!

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Originally Posted by Markyboard
my doc prescribed an EpiPen in case of future occurrence
Very wise to have one of those around! When I was a kid I started developing an anaphylactic reaction after an allergy shot, and let me tell you that was not fun at all.

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Here’s a public service announcements on the benefits of honey bees and what they provide our environment and us. smile

https://friendsoftheearth.uk/bees/why-do-we-need-bees


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For those who might wish to take up bee keeping, let me say that they are endlessly fascinating, but it's a lot of backbreaking work. A full medium super (a super is the box that holds the frames) isn't all that bad to lift (40 pounds? I don't remember offhand), but after you toss a bunch of those around, you're going to get sore and achy. It gets worse if you're like me and dislike killing your bees. Aside from the fact they're of more use to you alive, the bees (and there are tens of thousands in a decent-sized hive) have little (contrary) minds of their own, and they do foolish things like walk around on the top edge of the super that you're wanting to put yours down upon. Complicating matters further is the fact that bees react poorly to the smell of crushed bees. Squish one of their sisters and it puts the still-living ones on alert that there's something amiss. At that point they start investigating the big, ugly human who's invading their hive.

So...there you are, holding 40 pounds or so, and trying to (politely) shoo the bees off the top edge of the other super and they're not getting it. Did I mention that you don't want to blow on them to get them out of the way? They don't like that much. Especially if you haven't brushed your teeth, at which point they think you're a bear...and they have a deeply ingrained prejudice against bears. Deeply. Ingrained. They don't like bears at all. Not a bit. You do not wish to have them think that you are a bear. Ever. In the meantime, that super you're holding gets heavier and heavier and heavier...

It's a lot of work. But it's tasty and your garden will be well pollinated and you'll learn answers to questions that you didn't even know to ask before you started keeping bees.

And if you brew, you'll have access to high quality honey for making mead, metheglin, and pyment. Sparkling or still, your choice. Personally, I'm a fool for a metheglin made with cinnamon and/or vanilla. It's also a taste that's popular with lady-folks. And it's highly alcoholic, or can be, depending on how you make it, without tasting highly alcoholic. Subtle. Like an atom bomb, that is.

Just sayin'.

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Ouch! Get well. Take care of that.


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Bee stings suck! Every year or two I run across a yellow jacket nest in the ground while mowing and have had my share of bad stings, swelling, etc. Mark, I hope you're feeling better!

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Hi Mark. I think the problem may be that you are trying too hard to make the bees feel at home...
Originally Posted by Markeyboard
Severe headache and nausea for a couple of hours and hives on my legs and maybe elsewhere……...
grin grin. grin

I hope you recover quickly.

By the way; I strongly agree with what some earlier posters have already mentioned. Bees are rapidly becoming an endangered species. Something has been killing them in monstrous numbers over the last decade. The implications of not having bees are too horrible to contemplate (coronavirus would be nothing in comparison with the potential damage to the entire food chain if these tiny pollinators were not around to play their crucial part.)....
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About five years ago the yellowjackets built a hive on top of the concrete foundation wall at my rental house. I started seeing 1, then 3, then more in the basement and upstairs. I'd play in my studio in the basement, and more would fly around. Seems they are attracted to my music. Only time I got stung was when I was folding towels and I picked one up with a wasp right under the palm of my hand. I called the landlord and he found the nest. We managed to knock them out and remove the nest without getting ambushed. Yeah that was fun. Luckily I'm not allergic to stings. The stings just hurt but I don't swell up.

Better tool to take out a hive outdoors is a hose. Spray it with a good strong stream of water. You can stand a good twenty feet away and they can't tell where the water is coming from.

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Thanks everyone for both the well wishes and the education. Amazing what I learn on this forum. I think I’ll just add Bees to my social distancing list. That makes

1) Humans
2) Bees

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Originally Posted by GRollins
It's a lot of work. But it's tasty and your garden will be well pollinated and you'll learn answers to questions that you didn't even know to ask before you started keeping bees.

Or do what we do and have a friend that keeps bees, then you just have the hive on your place and you get a few jars of honey every few months smile


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I'm a big fan of Yellowjackets myself.



EpiPens are said to go bad after about a year. If you think you need to keep one around for emergencies, make sure it's still good and get another one if it's not.

Sorry about your encounter, Mark. Good thing you're not a musician or use your hands much doing weird stuff like fixing synths or anything. thu


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Thanks Paul and Joe. My hand is just about normal size again - at least normal for me. Drug companies definitely want you to toss drugs after a year but even my doc just told me off the record that pills are good for 3-4 years. My wife (nurse) has been saying this for years. EpiPens maybe not so much but I’d still question a year or whatever the drug company specifies.

Now where did I put that grilled chicken sandwich I bought in 2017? sick

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I remember the outcry when epi pens went up to $700-800. Besides epi-pens, what are good ways to deal with bee stings if you are allergic?


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I’m going to second Marzzz’s suggestion to keep the epi pen handy - I’m not sure if the price has stabilized or not. Here in Canada they’re probably the equivalent of $80 US.

Should you happen to get stung again and have a worse reaction, having your phone handy may not be sufficient. This is coming from the dad of a kid with allergies who has twice seen the near miraculous instantaneous improvement an epipen can have on someone having a reaction with difficulty breathing.


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...and, for those of you with more infantile senses of humour like mine that have seen the show, the thread title just made me think of

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Originally Posted by Markyboard
Drug companies definitely want you to toss drugs after a year but even my doc just told me off the record that pills are good for 3-4 years. My wife (nurse) has been saying this for years. EpiPens maybe not so much but I’d still question a year or whatever the drug company specifies.

My mom and grandfather are both retired pharmacists, and had no reservations about our family taking medications that were slightly out of date, especially over-the-counter ones. That being said, my daughter had food allergies for a few years that required an EpiPen (thankfully she's grown out of them). I ALWAYS made sure that her EpiPens were current. It's one thing if you have a headache and your out-of-date Tylenol isn't doing anything for you, but if it's a medical emergency like anaphylaxis, I wasn't willing to take the chance that an outdated EpiPen might still work. I also realize that they can be really expensive, especially if you don't have good insurance, and that I was fortunate to be able to afford to replace them every year. I'm sure they probably would still work fine, but it was a peace of mind thing for me.

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Good point Ross. I’ll have to weigh the risk as everyone’s situation is different (hmm, sounds like a pandemic). For example if at the time of expiration (the EpiPen, not mine) I’m not planning on doing yard work for a few months then I’d probably hold off until Spring. Plus it’s still a possibility I’d have a similar reaction to this occurrence and not need it either way.

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My luck, I'll use an epi-pen after it expires, and then I'll do the same. nopity
Problem is, I'm not in a mood to spend $700 every two years on a remote possibility.


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Not that I would ever know anything about things like this but it is possible that one may need to excrete waste out in the woods somewhere and having dug a hole and squatted, found themselves pooping on a yellowjacket nest.
I couldn''t say for certain but it seems like one option at that point might be to jump into a nearby pond and just come up quickly in random spots for air until the angry, stinging insects go away.

Of course, I don't really know what I am talking about, probably...


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Originally Posted by Tom Williams
My luck, I'll use an epi-pen after it expires, and then I'll do the same. nopity
Problem is, I'm not in a mood to spend $700 every two years on a remote possibility.
The price has come down to about $361 for a two-injector pack, but that's still absolutely ridiculous.

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See -- I told you not to ingest human brains -- it's not good for you. You'll start forgetting crucial things, like "never defecate less than 100 feet (30 meters) from a live body of water."

That said, I'm glad that this hypothetical adventurer was able to escape these rhetorical wasps. smile

Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
Not that I would ever know anything about things like this but it is possible that one may need to excrete waste out in the woods somewhere and having dug a hole and squatted, found themselves pooping on a yellowjacket nest.
I couldn''t say for certain but it seems like one option at that point might be to jump into a nearby pond and just come up quickly in random spots for air until the angry, stinging insects go away.

Of course, I don't really know what I am talking about, probably...


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See -- I told you not to ingest human brains -- it's not good for you.

Exactly where am I supposed to find brains around here then? laugh

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Don't come over here. Intelligence is in short supply in my area--starvation guaranteed.

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Originally Posted by GRollins
Don't come over here. Intelligence is in short supply in my area--starvation guaranteed.

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Maybe the offending critter like what he heard you playing earlier and just wanted to give you a really big hand?


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Originally Posted by stillearning
Maybe the offending critter like what he heard you playing earlier and just wanted to give you a really big hand?
Just when you thought this thread couldn't get any worse...

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I never understood why that Scott Joplin stuff went so big. Everybody was hailing him as a genius. I thought it was rather tedious and definitely overexposed.

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Brotha Mark, glad you've recovered from your personal encounter of the yelowjacket kind.

Obviously, the jackets have no regard for social distancing guidelines. grin

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Originally Posted by GRollins
I never understood why that Scott Joplin stuff went so big. Everybody was hailing him as a genius. I thought it was rather tedious and definitely overexposed.

I've been playing Joplin since The Sting came out and no one has complained. Plus Joplin is very good training material for learning hand independence, as good as classical.

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Oh, there's no arguing that Joplin's stuff got popular overnight after that movie came out. Lots of people liked it. I'm just not one of them.

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