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Re: AEA ribbon mics!
Dave Bryce #3045028 05/20/20 10:25 PM
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In any of the bands I've played with that gig frequently, everybody has owned their own vocal mics and have preferences based on their own voice and singing style. Mine for quite a long while was the Beyerdynamic Opus 89 until the capsule got an open circuit somewhere in those tiny wires. I don't sing live as much anymore so I couldn't justify buying another one and have been using a cheap sennheiser when I need to.

As for ribbon mics for live use in general, I would not have thought of them being very rugged for the riggers of transport/setup/teardown and occasional abuse in live situations. Do I have a false opinion in that regard? That is something nobody has mentioned as a desirable feature for a live vocal mic - ruggedness.


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Re: AEA ribbon mics!
J. Dan #3045033 05/20/20 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by J. Dan
That is something nobody has mentioned as a desirable feature for a live vocal mic - ruggedness.

I didn't mention it in my posts but it certainly crossed my mind. How many times can a Shure SM 57/58 be dropped before they stop working? I figure as many times as licks to the center of a Tootsie Pop. smile


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Re: AEA ribbon mics!
J. Dan #3045044 05/20/20 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by J. Dan
As for ribbon mics for live use in general, I would not have thought of them being very rugged for the riggers of transport/setup/teardown and occasional abuse in live situations. Do I have a false opinion in that regard? That is something nobody has mentioned as a desirable feature for a live vocal mic - ruggedness.

Many modern ribbon mics are quite rugged, but they're not indestructible. But you should be careful with your mics. If you're going to toss the mic around on stage, get an SM58, then move to the nice ribbon (or condenser or dynamic) mic for when you're singing serious. And dress and if necessary, tape your cables so you don't trip over one and the stand topples. Store mics in their original cases or a special multi-mic case. And don't let careless helpers handle your best mics. When it's time to pack up, take your prized vocal mic off the stand first and put it away, or at least put it in your pocket so you can keep packing up the stage.

Re: AEA ribbon mics!
J. Dan #3045099 05/21/20 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by J. Dan
As for ribbon mics for live use in general, I would not have thought of them being very rugged for the riggers of transport/setup/teardown and occasional abuse in live situations. Do I have a false opinion in that regard? That is something nobody has mentioned as a desirable feature for a live vocal mic - ruggedness.
A little history would help. Check out the story of the RCA BK5, the KU5A's predecessor. This piece on the KU5A may help as well.

Wes Dooley also wrote a great piece on the perception of the ruggedness of ribbons in general for one of the mags recently. I'll see if I can dig it up.

I can tell you this - I am not at all nice to my KU5A, and I've had no problem with it at all so far.

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Re: AEA ribbon mics!
Dave Bryce #3045284 05/22/20 03:12 AM
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I guess to go handheld with it, you'd need to go Freddy Mercury style!


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Re: AEA ribbon mics!
Dave Bryce #3045414 05/23/20 03:05 AM
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I have an R84, an R92, and have used the R88 and a few R44 versions they make many times.

I think that the R92 is a rare case of figuring out how to bring in a product at a cheaper price point, and it resulting in something that doesn't sound inferior, and may in some cases be preferable.

For certain things, if you are tracking with an R92, the lesser proximity effect and overall frequency response seems to work very well. The extra mesh gives me a feeling of a little more security that the ribbon won't get sagged with louder sources. Yet it still has a strong sonic relation to the R84 and R44.

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