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Behringer MonoPoly it was just a matter of time
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https://youtu.be/zoohp8UrxcE

There you go - another one for the shopping list!

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It's funny. I own an original Mono/Poly and have sort of been lusting for the Poly D, then I see this video this morning and get quite excited....and I'm not sure why? laugh
I think I always had a sort of wish my mono/Poly was a minimoog instead, even though in many ways the mono/poly is capable of a lot more.
The Poly D pretty much addresses that, but something tugged hard on my heart strings when I saw this.

For me I knew it was coming from someone, either Behringer or Korg, and I mostly was hoping it wasn't mini keys. Korg's keypads have been pretty unimpressive to me other than the weighted 88's. I"m sure the Kronos 61 has a good keyed, but its' out of my range. I've hated the feel of all their mini keys. (The reface is pretty good, though still...mini keys)

But I was also hoping for a couple other tweaks:
1. Arpeggiator up/down mode always repeats the top and bottom notes. I wish there was a way to change that.
2. Portamento is polyphonic even in monophonic mode. Personally I don't like that. It's not too bad at fast speeds and I often only use two oscillators, which diminishes the effect a little.
3. Built in Delay would have been great (delay is all over the introductory video) and also that poly D chorus for those who want to do a lot of polyphonic playing.

I also hope the pitch wheel isn't spring loaded. Its' nice to route it to the cutoff, and change filter settings in real time with the wheel and that would work better it you could leave it in position, like the original.

I need to see the price. It is is the same as the Poly D I would probably go Poly D, because it addresses all my gripes above except I believe the Poly D has a spring loaded pitch wheel.
If the monoPoly is less money, I am interested, because mine is very old, tuning is a wee bit suspect, and it might be nice to have midi (I never got the retrofit)

However It has inspired me to spend more time with my original! That's always a good thing!


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I remember trying out a brand new MonoPoly in the store years ago. Wasn't impressed then. Do have the Reason version. Don't need anything more.


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Behringer are now tooled up for this "minimoog" form factor so expect more releases that use it. They did it successfully with the modules. What is interesting is although they are reissuing these vintage synths, with the exception of the MS1 and the Odyssey, they are not exactly clones. Behringer reduce the form factor and add stuff like sequencer or effects.

All their synths sound excellent but I want full size synths. The Model D is a fine module but I reckon those that can afford it will sell it for a Poly D.

So maybe the Poly D/ MonoPoly is the stepping stone to the larger 5 octave form factor. The UB-X is in the pipeline and that would provide the shell for all the big polysynths such as the Prophet - and remember they already have a mono version of the Rev 3.

The DeepMind 12 is the exception as its got the 4 octave keyboard and although clearly inspired by the Juno, it is not a clone. IMO this is their best effort: 12 voice poly with 1024 memories, extensive modulation and multi FX, full size keyboard with AT etc. And its the same price as a Poly D

They could have just knocked out a Juno 106, would have been a big hit in the UK. Juno 106s are selling in the UK for over £1200 (I sold mine for £1150 last year and bought several Behringer synths with the money). Just wondering if US/Europe has the same love affair with the 106!

Back to MonoPoly - wonder if they have modelled the Korg chorus or just used the lovely Juno chorus from the Model D.

Final thought - might they put a Juno 106 in this form factor? Lots of room as the 106 panel is quite simple....


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Originally Posted by ChazKeys
Behringer are now tooled up for this "minimoog" form factor so expect more releases that use it.
Interesting observation. The Moog Prodigy could be a candidate. I remember paying $325 for my Prodigy in 1979. Behringer's Prodigy price would have to be similar to or less than their Odyssey to make sense.

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Originally Posted by ChazKeys
... The Model D is a fine module but I reckon those that can afford it will sell it for a Poly D. ....

Not me. I have no desire for a paraphonic D. I want true poly.


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part two of the video is up. More informative, although skirted past a few things.
Mono/poly part two


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I had a MonoPoly as a green 18-year old just doing my first gigs. Never really liked it. YMMV.
My PolySix, was a much better beast.


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Paraphonic mode to me is a special effect - one I happen to love. I think some people expect/hope (in a pinch) to get near polyphonic performance/sound out of a paraphonic and are disappointed - totally understandable. Back when the original MonoPoly was around compromises had to be made from a cost/performance standpoint. These days if you want a polyphonic get a real polyphonic.

Just not a Polysix - they sucked back then and they sound just as boring today! hand
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I spent some time with the Behringer Odyssey. BUILT LIKE A TANK! Full size keys, and the keybed was more than playable. Sounded big. I guess I have come to grips with the fact that Behringer is like the 'kit car': we'd all like the REAL thing but most of us will never amass the $$ needed to get all these things in REAL editions, but this will have to suffice. And sometimes the kit car MORE than scratches the itch. I'm on board with their String Ensemble, if it ever comes out. And I'd be lying if I said I dont want a kit car CS80! I'll take a Pro Soloist as well. grin

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I wrestled with paraphony in the 70s with an Arp Omni. It wasn't my favorite way to go back then, but today I could see paraphony working as an added feature on a lead synth - mixing in block chords with lead lines and stuff. With that in mind, I'm much more interested in the Poly D than this.

Others may differ, but I never considered the Mono/Poly as a strong lead synth. It's strength seemed to be in areas where paraphony was a negative over polyphony. But I never owned one so what do I know...

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I remember investing significant time with the Mono/Poly when I worked for Unicord. The four oscillator stack and the effects were cool, but it lacked a diverse sound palette and punchy oscillators. My Moog Prodigy delivered better solo synth capabilities back then - to me anyway.

Then again, it's been 40 years and that's the best I can remember.

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Originally Posted by RABid
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... The Model D is a fine module but I reckon those that can afford it will sell it for a Poly D. ....

Not me. I have no desire for a paraphonic D. I want true poly.

Exactly. The Korg Minilogue is a true 4 voice polyphonic analog synth with patch memory. And it goes for a price comparable to the Poly D, which is likely the same price as the MonoPoly. The Minilogue has 2 VCOs per voice, which means it has twice the number of oscillators as the MonoPoly. There’s no point in Behringer making this.

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The point isn’t that other synths are capable of different things.

The point is that the Mono/Poly sounds like a Mono/Poly, has a specific set of controls and an arpeggiator that interact with that particular sound, and virtually nothing else has that particular combination.


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