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Physical Gearfest 2020 cancelled, Virtual GearFest 6/26-6/27
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Not really a surprise.

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Another one bites the dust. But as Chuck would say, "it's the right thing to do." With 15,000+ people, it's almost certain that even in June, there would be enough asymptomatic people floating around to be problematic - especially given that people come literally from all over the world.

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Not surprised, but frown .


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It's a shame so many things have been cancelled. I wasn't planning on attending this year but have been to it a couple times, it's a great event and made for a great m/c weekend trip to get there and back.

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Disappointed but relieved in a strange way.

I attended my first one last year, it is a cool event. NAMM is tailored to retailers and distributors, Gearfest is tailored to musicians and studio owners. Unlike NAMM, you can actually buy stuff at Gearfest.

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Disappointed of course, but kudos to Chuck Surack and Sweetwater for doing the safe thing.


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Killing your customers is never a sales good strategy smile

I once asked someone at Sweetwater whether GearFest made money, lost money, broke even, or what. Obviously it's a big deal to put on, expensive, and sucks up a lot of Sweetwater talent for an extended period of time.

I was told the official position was "it doesn't matter, it's worth doing regardless." It's too bad they had to decide it's not worth doing, regardless. But Chuck has a history of doing the right thing.

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Originally Posted by Anderton
I once asked someone at Sweetwater whether GearFest made money, lost money, broke even, or what. Obviously it's a big deal to put on, expensive, and sucks up a lot of Sweetwater talent for an extended period of time.

I was told the official position was "it doesn't matter, it's worth doing regardless." It's too bad they had to decide it's not worth doing, regardless. But Chuck has a history of doing the right thing.
I love businesses that seem to be based on doing the right thing, even if it means paying a little more. It's worth it for me to spend my money with them.


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OMG. I just now saw this. My GF and I plan our summer trip to the midwest every year around this event. Very sad. Very sad.

We will miss seeing AE, dB, MM and all the rest of the usual players.

Oh well, 2021 it is.

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Superbooth did an online, "home edition." Let's hope that maybe Sweetwater can do something similar.

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I'm also hoping that Sweetwater at least does something virtual. Maybe a series of online trainings and demos, a big sale, and a virtual tour of the campus.


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I believe they will.

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Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
I believe they will.

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I too have heard those rumors...fingers crossed. I know Chuck hated to cancel it, it's such a cool event, but the dude's inventive. Let's see what he comes up with smile

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Originally Posted by Anderton
Originally Posted by Dave Bryce
I believe they will.

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I too have heard those rumors...fingers crossed. I know Chuck hated to cancel it, it's such a cool event, but the dude's inventive. Let's see what he comes up with smile

Yes, they are going to do a virtual event.

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excellent news. 2thu


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Looks like a nice lineup of talent. BT and Billy Gibbons on the same ticket?!? I plan to set aside those days and watch some seminars. Signed up for giveaways.


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I’ve been cranking out a few videos for our virtual booth there.

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Yep, same with the companies I work with. It should be interesting to see what format they choose to present those.

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Originally Posted by RABid
Looks like a nice lineup of talent. BT and Billy Gibbons on the same ticket?!? I plan to set aside those days and watch some seminars. Signed up for giveaways.

Ummm . . . is this what you're looking at and how and what to sign up for? Sweetwater Gearfest link?

Who's BT?

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I just finished a 21-minute video presentation for Virtual GearFest.

Originally Posted by Mike Rivers
Who's BT?

Brian Transeau is an EDM pioneer with a really impressive resume. Coincidentally, I've been collaborating with him on a project for the past several weeks, but if I told you what it was, I would have to shoot you.

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Originally Posted by Mike Rivers
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Looks like a nice lineup of talent. BT and Billy Gibbons on the same ticket?!? I plan to set aside those days and watch some seminars. Signed up for giveaways.

Ummm . . . is this what you're looking at and how and what to sign up for? Sweetwater Gearfest link?

Giveaways. They have a lot of drawings.

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Flaming June gave me hope for modern (at the time) electronic music.


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I changed the title so that people wouldn't get the wrong idea smile It's happening, and I'm planning to check out a lot of it.

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Hmmmm. Notice that BT was not mentioned on the email they sent out. They did add Alan Parsons.


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BT is still mentioned as a presenter. I'd be surprised if he wasn't part of it.

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It is Gearfest weekend. I'm going into full staycation mode. Got a mixed case of Mike's Hard Lemonaid and a big pack of porkchops to put on the grill. Plan on spending much of the next two days in the recliner in front of my 32" iMac watching Gearfest and pretending I'm there. I almost forgot. Placed an order with Sweetwater yesterday and then saw the reminder. I meant to hold off ordering anything in hopes of a Gearfest discount. Most of my big drum set and many of my guitars were purchased during Gearfest with added discounts. Oh well, it was not a big order. A really nice pedal board power supply (1Spot Pro CS12), Boss pedal tuner, and a few other items for my guitar/bass pedals. Been thinking about getting a Boss Katana for a guitar practice amp. May grab one of those this weekend.

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If they have any discounts on a MOTU 828x I'd be inclined to grab one for a backup. Otherwise I've got to avoid buying anything that isn't absolutely necessary due to the fact we plan to be moving out of state in just over a year.

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I got several things out of the Craig Anderton talk. ... ... ... I will confess, I had never heard of Nashville tuning.


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Originally Posted by RABid
I got several things out of the Craig Anderton talk. ...

was very good, indeed. 2thu

as was Bob Ludwig, though that was just cool, not informative as such.


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Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
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The lady following Craig was also good, talking about recognizing frequencies and how to communicate with the sound man. After that it went down a bit.


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Originally Posted by RABid
I got several things out of the Craig Anderton talk. ... ... ... I will confess, I had never heard of Nashville tuning.

I'm converting one of my acoustic guitars to Nashville tuning, but the virtual Nashville tuning has its own sound. I've also really gotten into using ukulele unconventionally to provide some of that same high-frequency/ear candy vibe...almost like a "compact" nylon-string guitar.

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I have not seen any discounts online that interested me. One thing I enjoyed at the in person Gearfest was the DealZone. I've bought plenty of drum sticks, small cymbals, monitors, and even a couple of lower end guitars there at really good prices. It was also a good time to buy SM 58's and 59's.


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Originally Posted by Anderton
I just finished a 21-minute video presentation for Virtual GearFest.

Originally Posted by Mike Rivers
Who's BT?

Brian Transeau is an EDM pioneer with a really impressive resume. Coincidentally, I've been collaborating with him on a project for the past several weeks, but if I told you what it was, I would have to shoot you.

My friends and I saw BT with Hooverphonic playing.

After Hooverphonic was done, we were shoved aside by a swarm of teenage girls jockeying for spots closer to the stage. That's when I realized BT was a big deal.

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Originally Posted by RABid
I have not seen any discounts online that interested me. .

same here

Originally Posted by RABid
It was also a good time to buy SM 58's and 59's.

I bought 2 SM 57's during 2018 Gearfest, already had enough SM 58's. Need to check into SM 59's, not familiar with them.


A reason why I collect old keyboards is that I feel partly responsible for doing it, responsible for preserving history and being a custodian for these things
Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
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Originally Posted by davedoerfler
I bought 2 SM 57's during 2018 Gearfest, already had enough SM 58's. Need to check into SM 59's, not familiar with them.

Don't you have the SM 1 through 56? I thought everyone did.


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I thought Mitch Gallagher's interview with Chuck Surack was fantastic.


A reason why I collect old keyboards is that I feel partly responsible for doing it, responsible for preserving history and being a custodian for these things
Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
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Originally Posted by davedoerfler
I thought Mitch Gallagher's interview with Chuck Surack was fantastic.

Mitch can do no wrong.

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Originally Posted by davedoerfler
Originally Posted by RABid
I have not seen any discounts online that interested me. .

same here

Originally Posted by RABid
It was also a good time to buy SM 58's and 59's.

I bought 2 SM 57's during 2018 Gearfest, already had enough SM 58's. Need to check into SM 59's, not familiar with them.

Oh duh! That should have read SM 57 and 58. The older I get, the more I do things like this. razz


Today's broadcast was a bit more hit and miss. I enjoyed some of the drummer interviews. The producer panel was a joke. One guy giving good information, the rest just sitting there trying to look cool. Not sure who he was because I missed the beginning. The one in the top left corner. The lady was embarrassing. All I got from her is she likes Carley Simon more than any modern artist.


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Well, I poked around the Virtual Gearfest a bit yesterday and today, and I have to say that I was underwhelmed. If Virtual NAMM turns out to be like this, I'll be bummed.

I looked at several of the product videos from manufacturers that I had some interest in seeing what they were up to, and what I found was very much like the hundreds of visitor-posted trade show booth videos of other shows, although with cleaner production (thank you). But basically talking heads showing off a product and not telling me any more than I could have found on their web site. Yawn! Even Ricky Scaggs, who really cares about his stage and studion sound, just named the vocal and instrument mics that he's currently using on stage - a couple of a few year old but current production Neumanns - good choices, sure, but basically it's just an endorsement of a well respected manufacturer. Of course the couple of tunes he played sounded great on the Minimus 7 speakers connected to my computer. He was more fun when he was using an RCA 77dx.

If you haven't given up reading this yet, understand that I'm probably not interested in the same things you and you and you are. I don't get anything out of listening to a famous mixer give some tips on how he got that snare sound on this recording. Tell me something that I can apply to my clients and their projects. I understand that newcomers may indeed get something out of this sort of video - hopefully it's learning what to listen for and what changes when the presenter twiddles the knobs. Of course the NAMM show has their share of these sort of presentations, but they also have some pretty technical stuff if you're looking for how things work.

When I saw a few nice comments about Craig's talk, I looked for it hopefully it would be on line and I couldn't find it. In fact, the only place I saw Craig's name was under the page of presenters - but it didn't say what he was going to talk about or when. Nor did I see his name on any of the schedules. I almost always learn something when I hear Craig talk - even if it's just something to think about and play around with - so I'm sorry I missed him.

Of course I looked at the spectacular deals, and while there were some substantial dollar discounts, most were for fairly expensive products. I'm over that - After 50+ years of recording, I want to learn what's coming in the way of great performing and moderately priced products.

I realize it's hard to please everybody. I had hoped I'd find more there.

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Originally Posted by Anderton
Originally Posted by davedoerfler
I thought Mitch Gallagher's interview with Chuck Surack was fantastic.

Mitch can do no wrong.

I'll take your word on that. smile

I also really enjoyed the interview with Todd Rundgren. I have been a huge fan of Todd's for over 40 years.

I checked out of the show after that, too much else going on.


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Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
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Did anyone pick up any great deals at the "event"? I spent some time looking at the listings and saw some things that interested me but nothing I felt I really needed to have (which I can assure you would have been different if I'd physically been there!). There was never a sale price on the interface I might have bought and there were a couple other reasons for me holding off on ordering things I don't absolutely need; going on vacation soon and moving out of state next year.

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I never called to check any prices. Last time I was there for Gearfest, anything I wanted that was not on sale was discounted another 20 percent. My salesperson even paused an order that I made the day before Gearfest because he knew it would be discounted the next day.


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