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Given that there are 2,349 different modules of audio interfaces, what are you using, why, and with what family of computer?

For my office computer ("Studio B"), I'm using the Apollo Twin USB with Windows 10. I like the effects for sure, but it's also compact and easy to hit the right buttons at the right time.

For the main studio (also Windows), it's the PreSonus Studio 192. There are two main reasons: Since I'm using Studio One a lot these days, the integration is a big plus. Also, I like that it has an ADAT interface, so I can get extra inputs in conjunction with the TASCAM US-20x20, and the mixer application is pretty comprehensive.

I've also used the Zoom UAC-8. I think it's underrated, it's an excellent interface. If I wasn't using the Studio 192, I'd be using the Zoom with the US-20x20. I also gotta say the MBox Pros were really good interfaces, I think the name was al albatross because the original MBoxes were, shall we say, lacking. The Mackie interfaces I've tested have given a good account of themselves, as well.

For doing seminars, and for use with my MacBook Pro, I use the Presonus 6|8. I can count on it, it fits in my carry-on, and it's cute. When space is really at a premium, IK Multimedia's iRig Pro I/O gets the nod.

Frankly, although these days every manufacturer says they have "the best most bestest wonderful transparent preamps ever!!," the state of the art is such that they're all pretty darn good. I really don't think the limiting factor for most audio productions is an interface's mic pres.

What about you?

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I'm down to using just two interfaces.

On my older MBP (the last 17" that I've mentioned I cling on to because of the UAD expresscard) there is the original Presonus StudioLive 1642 interface. The big plans I had for that have yet to materialize for various reasons however the unit also sees frequent use as just an ordinary mixer around here.

On my newer MBP (2013 model I believe) I use the MOTU 828x thunderbolt unit. Obviously it integrates well with Digital Performer and is a lightweight single space unit that I'll be hauling along when I get some more backing tracks completed.

Otherwise I still have an old Presonus FP10 unit that used to be attached to my desktop Dell XPS i5, I think one of the win10 updates may have rendered it useless but I held onto it because at one point I thought I might be using it for a preamp (it has 8 XLR amped inputs which I believe is rather rare among interfaces in this class). Also in the closet somewhere is the Line 6 KB37 unit. I always liked it and have kept it but it just never seemed to be very handy to use unless you really have need for the keyboard part which I rarely did.

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Fairly recent transition from MOTU Hybrid (Firewire and USB 2) interfaces - an 896 MkIII and an Audio Express. I have a love/hate thing for their software and certain features on the interfaces.
I also found their preamps to be just a bit flat sounding, not bad at all and certainly useful but not inspiring either.

Before that I had a Mackie with 4 Onyx mic preamps, single rack space. That was Firewire only and Mackie never supported any firmware updates so system upgrades left it behind. Plus all the pots got scratchy.

Now I have a Presonus Quantum, the single rack space with 8 total preamps. I like that 2 of the input jacks are on the front and are Mic/Line with switchable DI, that is super handy. I like that the mic gain contol is a single digital controller on the front with simple track selection and/or Universal Control software. No pots on the inputs to get scratchy - I liked that about the MOTU stuff too. I also like 2 headphone outs on front with their own volume controls. It is really easy to use this interface, the preamps have a bit more sparkle and there are 2 Thunderbolt 2 sockets in back so I put a hard drive in the back of the rack. Overall, I am happy with this, I can't think of anything that bugs me.

Running a 2014 MacBook Pro, still on High Sierra but Catalina seems inevitable soon. I need to create a boot disk with a copy of my current system and software - Adobe and some other things I use will get tossed off the boat when Catalina is installed. Waveform 11 is compatible, not sure about Universal Control yet. I've got a large LG monitor off the HDMI port and I've got Universal Controll set up to use the full screen on the laptop.
I leave the Thunderbolt cable plugged in, I have a 4 port active USB thingie for external backups and interwebz. I've found it's best to unplug the internet while recording, had a crash or two that stopped when I started disconnecting. Easier than figuring out why!!!!

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My favorite is a Mackie 1200F. It has 12 mic inputs, oodles of line level and ADAT optical inputs, and gobs of outputs. One of its particularly nice features is that there are four front panel headphone jacks, each with its own volume control, and each fed from its own audio stream, so that in a DAW, they can be assigned to a bus output or even a track. In addition there's a very sensible DSP mixer with a tab to select the mixer for each output. It still sounds very good, but it's Firewire, the newest ASIO driver available for it works with Windows 7 but there's zero support beyond that. I don't know about MacOS support. And this is early 2000s design, so the DSP isn't as fast as what we see today. Mixer throughput delay - mic in to line out, bypassing the computer - is about 1.5 ms. A modern interface can do about 1/10 of that.

On the work desk, I have a Behringer UMC202HD, in the electronics workshop, there's a Mackie Satellite, and in the antique laptop that's my on-line-radio recorder, there's a Digigram VX Pocket PCMCIA card. I also have an IK Pro Duo or something like that for portable work when I want something other than one of my handheld recorders or Korg MR-1000. I also have a Mackie 1640 mixer and a couple of smaller Mackie Onyx mixers with a Firewire interface.

I keep wanting to get a USB interface with 4 inputs and 4 outputs, but that would probably replace the Satellite in the shop to give me more flexibility for test setups, but it wouldn't get a lot of use out of it for music.

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Bought the new UA Apollo Twin X. But it was faulty and I had to send it back. Will be getting a replacement soon.

This should be a big upgrade from the Roland Quadcapture I've been using for I can't remember how many years....

I put together a new computer - PC - just for the occasion. Big muscley i9 with those new M.2 drives (those suckers are FAST!).

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I'm still in need of an upgrade, and will be for a minute. I have 2 Native Instrument Audio Kontrol 1 interfaces, one on a desktop, one on a laptop. Thay are simple and problem free, do what I need, so I am good for now.


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TASCAM DM3200 connected to an iMac via FireWire in the main studio.

Audient iD4 connected to an older Macbook in the live tracking playpen.

Both computers running DP10.

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My old Windows XP and 7 DAWS had eMu 1820 and 1820m (better mic preamps). The 1820m died, and was replaced with a 0404, which is only used to feed audio into the Win 7 machine. Haven't really used any DAW capability in a while, but my shop PC3X and either PC361 or SK1 feed audio through the eMu on the way to the amplified speakers. For some reason, going through a mixer gives a better sound.

Current device is a Focusrite 18i8 version 1, bought just after version 2 came out. USB interface, and have the drivers for both Win and Mac. At the moment, it is connected to my Macbook Pro, with a couple of condenser microphones input, and using GarageBand as the DAW to produce an audio stream of the Bible Study lessons that I teach while the church is meeting only by online methods. Then I take the audio stream, put it into VSDC Free Video Editor, add some still images for video, and put it on my fresh new YouTube channel.

I'm very much not an expert at this, but it is doing a lot better than the built-in microphone on my HP Zbook 17 Win 10 notebook, which was what I used the first lesson. Audio sounded ok, but level was all over the place as I would turn my head a bit. I know, this is a very simple usage, but it is getting used more than it was. I like the Focusrite, it is possible to use it standalone as an audio mixer as well as with a computer.


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Originally Posted by Greg Mein
On my newer MBP (2013 model I believe) I use the MOTU 828x thunderbolt unit.
Did you find Thunderbolt a life-changing experience, or just another incremental upgrade?

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I have one audio interface. It's a Resident Audio T4 thunderbolt 2 interface, and I've used it for five years with a late-2015 iMac 21.5" with OS's El Capitan through Mojave without too many issues. The driver has been fiddly occasionally with updates so I found that the original older driver actually worked best. I do routinely need to adjust buffer settings or restart the computer to eliminate crackling issues sometimes but I don't think that's necessarily an audio-interface problem. Latency is amazing thanks to Thunderbolt, almost none if you're able to run a low buffer setting. I can run at 128 and not notice hardly any latency. Sound quality is great too - 96khz. Four combo inputs, four outputs, direct monitoring with DAW mix adjustment, and phantom power on all four inputs (switchable)


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Originally Posted by Anderton
Did you find Thunderbolt a life-changing experience, or just another incremental upgrade?

I essentially did it as a convenience update when I began using this MBP on live gigs (went from an 828mk3). This MBP has SSD which was a very noticeable difference from the MBP I'd been using so at the same time I also bought an external thunderbolt SSD for my music files. I figured I was in pretty good shape for anything I could throw at it then but the key to this setup has always been stability for live use. Audio recording on this setup has been minimal.

So, although there was a significant boost in performance, I believe the SSD drives had more impact for my purposes.

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When I installed my Dante setup, I wrote a detailed post elsewhere.

A shorter summary is this:

When the RME UFX no longer had enough ports, I was ready to be done with USB and its distance/cable/bandwidth limitations. I wanted something that sat directly on the PCIe buss or Thunderbolt. I chose the Focusrite Dante interfaces. The PCIe card is rock solid and 3.3 ms of latency @ 48khz. There is the ~$500-$700 Dante "tax" in the form of adapter cards for some boxes, but I love the modularity. I can no longer "outgrow" my interface. I can just add another one to the network in whatever capacity or configuration I need - even from different vendors. I run about 40 channels across it between the synths and then all the feeds back into a Dante-connected Midas M32 for monitors, clicks, cues, etc. It is rock solid and "just works". The digital patch bay is wonderful and having Ethernet for audio distribution let me pull up a huge stack of cables and stick them back in drawers. My studio wiring got simpler for sure, despite gaining more channels of IO.

I have three Ethernet networks in the studio: I have a Dante audio network (on a dedicated POE switch for the AM-2 headphone amps), a VEP network for samples, and an Internet network in the studio. All run on separate physical ports into the DAW (4 port Intel PCIe NIC cards work great and no DPC latency issues). My Genelec monitors all connect their control network via Ethernet cables too. These cables are SO much cheaper than Canare or Mogami! So at least at my place, it appears Ethernet is the future.

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Thanks for that, and the link to the detailed post. I've had a chance to check out Dante, and I agree with you on all your points. Unfortunately it's a bit too rich for my blood, and my studio is compact; I get extra inputs through ADAT light pipes. But someday...

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If I was in the market for a new interface it would be Dante all the way. But I'm still extremely happy with my 11 year old RME HDSPe AES-32 PCIe card through an Aurora 16VT. I'm not sure that Dante exceeds its specs and even if it does I don't think it would make a difference for my application. I'm running most VSTs at a 32 sample buffer size with no audio pops. The card is still supported with periodic driver updates and amazingly it still list for more than I paid for it 11 years ago. Unless PCIe goes away I think I'll be using this for the foreseeable future.

Btw while waiting for a replacement after my mb fried last year I set up my back up PC to use USB direct in to the Aurora (no PCIe on the old computer). But the latency was extremely noticeable. Still its nice to have a back up.

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Yeah, PCI still rocks. When Thunderbolt came out on the Mac, the Macophiles were talking about how they were able to obtains such incredible low latencies and how it was such a huge deal. I told them all the needed to do back in the Cheese Grater days, or on Windows, was to use a PCI card...

I think marketing will always triumph over technology!

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Yeah, PCIe is where it is at. On any modern CPU, there are PCIe lanes that are handled directly by the CPU, and some that are serviced through the South Bridge chip. The South Bridge is basically a multiplexer. It uses a few high-speed connection lines to the CPU and then breaks out smaller chunks for lower speed things like USB, SATA, etc. Typically, there are more ports than there is bandwidth to the CPU, but no one notices this.

I put my Dante PCIe card in slot #2. Slot #1 is the video card. This means that my audio interface is a first class citizen. It is directly connected to the CPU's memory space and there is only the latency of electrons moving at the speed of light.

I'm with Craig. This is the best way to interface that there is. I get that Thunderbolt and things are fast. But PCIe is the fastest, most direct connection.

I'm sure that RME's PCIe interface works splendidly. And Lynx and the few others that make them. AVID's HDX cards are also super stable. These are more expensive, it is true. But they are also massively expandable and yet still maintain the same latency. Wonderful for those that care.

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I am using the RME Fireface UFX, which is an older audio interface. It sounds great, and you know how picky I am about my sound. It also works great. It. Just. works. Installation requires almost nothing. The drivers are really stable as well. I've heard this is true of other RME audio interfaces as well.

I don't have anything currently like Dante that is hooked up to PCIe. I am not saying RME is the best or anything like that, but it seems to be rock solid and sound good, and well, it's what I own, so I'm very good with that. If I had giant issues or had a larger budget, I am sure I would probably use something like an RME PCIe interface, who knows. I like some of the Apollo stuff as well, at least conceptually.

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Originally Posted by KenElevenShadows
I am using the RME Fireface UFX, which is an older audio interface. It sounds great, and you know how picky I am about my sound. It also works great. It. Just. works. Installation requires almost nothing. The drivers are really stable as well. I've heard this is true of other RME audio interfaces as well.

I don't have anything currently like Dante that is hooked up to PCIe. I am not saying RME is the best or anything like that, but it seems to be rock solid and sound good, and well, it's what I own, so I'm very good with that. If I had giant issues or had a larger budget, I am sure I would probably use something like an RME PCIe interface, who knows. I like some of the Apollo stuff as well, at least conceptually.

I can't recall anyone saying anything but very positive things about the RME products. The stability of the drivers is constantly commented on.

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Originally Posted by KenElevenShadows
I am using the RME Fireface UFX, which is an older audio interface. It sounds great, and you know how picky I am about my sound. It also works great. It. Just. works. Installation requires almost nothing. The drivers are really stable as well. I've heard this is true of other RME audio interfaces as well.

I don't have anything currently like Dante that is hooked up to PCIe. I am not saying RME is the best or anything like that, but it seems to be rock solid and sound good, and well, it's what I own, so I'm very good with that. If I had giant issues or had a larger budget, I am sure I would probably use something like an RME PCIe interface, who knows. I like some of the Apollo stuff as well, at least conceptually.

I can't recall anyone saying anything but very positive things about the RME products. The stability of the drivers is constantly commented on.

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Oh, I completely agree! I had a great experience with RME. I just ran out of ports, and then out of ports on the ADAT expansion.

They are rumored to have the best USB drivers in the industry - it is why I bought it in the first place. But I don't miss USB and wouldn't go back. It is also true that the world of 8ch + ADAT interfaces no longer meets my needs, so it is a bit academic.

I still have an RME UCX as the audio I/O for the laptop rig, however.

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Originally Posted by Nowarezman
I can't recall anyone saying anything but very positive things about the RME products. The stability of the drivers is constantly commented on.

nat

This was part of my extensive research back in early 2001 right after I switched from Mac to PC. I wanted to give myself the best chance of making my midi setup work as well on Windows as it did on the Mac and also add audio. RME came up as consistently reliable, highest performance and substantially more expensive (unfortunately) then other solutions. But worth every penny imo not to ever have experienced the "Windows sucks" thing for years and years.

I didn't know it at the time of purchase but the cost amortized over near 20 years was cheaper than just about any other solution due to only 1 upgrade. I started with a RME DIGI 9636/52 PCI card (branded under Steinberg Nuendo) and an RME ADI-8 PRO DS 8 channel converter. Both worked extremely well from the start and it wasn't until I upgraded PCs and wanting a 16 channel converter that I went with the AES-32 card. Sold the ADI-8 at a pretty good loss but I still have the old 9652 PCI card.

Turns out (just looked) it's not that the old backup PC doesn't have PCIe or more importantly PCI slots - it does. It's that I no longer have any ADAT interfaces. But I also see there's a dongle included in the RME box. I just installed the cards in that backup PC and next time I bring it to life I'll give it a go.

Add that to the "doorstop" thread. w00t

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I was using a Lexicon Omega interface whose drivers were so spotty, it led to an ambient period for me, because I never knew when it would drop out. Saving that kind of material was at least doable, whereas you'd go mad with intricate pieces. With respect, a very rare Lexicon failure, but I retired it with a rubber body mallet. I felt good. I knew that I would.

A REALLY good friend bought me a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 for my birthday and its still plodding along flawlessly. Class-compliant, so no idiot driver issues. When the day comes, I'll buy the next USB 3.0 version of this one. Simple solution, a perfect fit for me, great tool.


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Well damn, talk about interfaces I had the weirdest (I actually mean sucky) thing happen yesterday. I finally decided to go ahead and upgrade my Digital Performer to ver. 10. Literally minutes after I'd downloaded it I was setting up to do more work on my backing tracks wondering if I should install the new version or try to get more work done first, I flipped on the motu 828x and......nothing. The LCD screen was backlit but blank, none of the level indicators were lit and the 828 Audio Setup screen didn't pop up on the computer.

After verifying it wasn't just a dream sequence I popped it open and looked around but didn't see any obvious problems so it'll have to go to motu for repairs/exchange. So today I've drug out the old Line 6 KB37 so maybe I can try moving forward rather than letting the whole weekend go to waste.

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Originally Posted by Greg Mein
Well damn, talk about interfaces I had the weirdest (I actually mean sucky) thing happen yesterday. I finally decided to go ahead and upgrade my Digital Performer to ver. 10. Literally minutes after I'd downloaded it I was setting up to do more work on my backing tracks wondering if I should install the new version or try to get more work done first, I flipped on the motu 828x and......nothing. The LCD screen was backlit but blank, none of the level indicators were lit and the 828 Audio Setup screen didn't pop up on the computer.

After verifying it wasn't just a dream sequence I popped it open and looked around but didn't see any obvious problems so it'll have to go to motu for repairs/exchange. So today I've drug out the old Line 6 KB37 so maybe I can try moving forward rather than letting the whole weekend go to waste.

Consider checking for a firmware update or even re-installing the firmware first. I would contact MOTU support and see what help they can provide.
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Also check anything obvious - cables, whether there's an internal battery that keeps presets alive, that kind of thing.

Every six months or so my ancient microwave oven's keypad stops functioning. I take it apart, reseat a ribbon connector, close it back up, and it works for another six months smile

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an internal battery that keeps presets alive, that kind of thing.

Every six months or so my ancient microwave oven's keypad stops functioning. I take it apart, reseat a ribbon connector, close it back up, and it works for another six months smile

I had it opened up, looked around for any burnt stuff and fiddled with the couple of cables in there. I looked for any type of battery as was a common problem with the midi timepiece units but didn't see one or see any info about that on searches. Without a display or computer comm there's no ability to try firmware updates, master resets or any "high level" troubleshooting and I suspect a power supply issue. This is the same thing I do on a daily basis but without schematics and parts layout I'm not likely to get anywhere on a unit with this kind of part count.

I started a tech link at motu yesterday but don't expect to hear back over the weekend. A couple years ago when a firewire port on my 828mk3 died there was a $99 flat fee to send it in and I imagine that's what I'll need to do with this one. I actually bought this one when I sent the other in because it seemed like a good time to start using my MBP with thunderbolt.

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That is true, they do have a flat rate for fixing MOTU units.
It is very reasonable too, good customer service after the sale.


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That is true, they do have a flat rate for fixing MOTU units.
It is very reasonable too, good customer service after the sale.

I made contact and, I thought, arrangements but then they left me hanging for a couple days, I attributed it to the weirdness that abounds and I know they were working with limited staff. I did get it mailed out and hope to get my replacement soon. The fee is $99.95 but they charge an extra $27 for return shipping also. I was told that they have refurbished units in stock and as soon as mine arrives they go ahead and send one of those out. There is a two year warranty but mine was purchased February '18 which put me a couple months over.

Meanwhile I used my Line 6 KB37 (my records indicate this unit is 11 years old already!) USB interface with a USB SSD to continue my work. I managed to record a guitar track and midi bass track but then had the first "bog down" event I've had in quite some time where DP began complaining things weren't keeping up. A first hand example of the wonders of thunderbolt.

It's possible that I could use adapters and plug in the Presonus StudioLive 1642 mixer/interface but that would be more trouble than it's worth for short term use.

During the downtime I've been looking at thunderbolt interface options, there are a few and a lot of them are more expensive than I'd imagined. The UAD Apollo 8 went on my wishlist, with that I could turn loose my oldest MBP and retain my UAD plug-ins but with a $2100 price tag that is a big leap! The Presonus Quantum also looked like a nice option but still a $1000 price tag. I looked at eBay for used 828x units, saw a couple and am holding that in the back of my mind as an option to have a backup.

In order to stay somewhat productive I spent some time working on the Boss VE-500 vocal unit my wife bought a while back. It was really frustrating trying to use the software until I discovered a firmware update for the box. After that we got a handle on creating some patches she'll be able to use for our performances.
I'd actually bought one of these shortly after she did but installing the driver locked my MBP up tight! Boss support had absolutely no idea what to tell me so I sent the unit back and had to revert to a Carbon Copy Cloner backup that was several months old. There was no such problem on my wife's new MBP. Mine has had a lot of other music software and drivers installed over time. I have no idea what the problem was but I can't help but wonder if it had a conflict with the driver for my FA-08 keyboard.

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For my studio iMac I have an original silver-face Universal Audio Apollo quad, upgraded with the second-generation Thunderbolt 2 card. It sounds fantastic and of course I love the DSP-powered plug-ins. Just got into playing with their LUNA recording software as well, which I'll get into on another thread.

I also recently built a pretty beefy PC out of a Dell T5600 and parts that were top of the line a few years ago: Dual-socket motherboard with two 8-core Xeon 2680 CPUs, Nvidia 1080 Founders Edition graphics card, 64GB server RAM, and 3x Samsung EVO-860 SSDs (1TB each). In this, I'm going to see if I can get my old MOTU PCI-424-based system running, which includes 2408mk3 and HD192 boxes. Last system it was installed in was a 2008 quad-core Mac Pro.

It may be a bit old-school but I'd like to have lightpipe going back and forth between the PC and Mac rigs, word-clocking everything off the Apollo.

With my MacBook pro I usually just throw my Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 in the bag. Myy Yamaha MODX7 and Novation UltraNova synths also have audio interface functionality, so if I'm bringing a keyboard and doing hotel room type work I'll use one of those. If I need more inputs I have Radial Key Largo and Keith McMillen QMix in rotation. Key Largo is line-level only as it's meant for keyboards but a great sounding and very flexible little box — and if someone breaks into my house I can throw it at them if I run out of bullets. QMix is an amazing little Swiss army knife of a mixer that looks and handles like it belongs on the bridge of NCC-1701-D.

Then, I have a legacy Pro Tools system I'm not sure what to do with: HD Core, Process, and Accel cards, so it's like an HD2-and-a-half. Digi 192 I/O box. Currently sitting in an old dual G5 and they're PCI-X (not PCIe) cards, so I'm wondering if I can get any service out of this thing for recalls and such.

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Then, I have a legacy Pro Tools system I'm not sure what to do with: HD Core, Process, and Accel cards, so it's like an HD2-and-a-half. Digi 192 I/O box. Currently sitting in an old dual G5 and they're PCI-X (not PCIe) cards, so I'm wondering if I can get any service out of this thing for recalls and such.

Here's what to do with old Pro Tools systems.

1. Disassemble the units.
2. Remove the circuit boards.
3. Spray paint the circuit boards gold, silver, copper, or candy apple red.
4. Mount them in frames.
5. Rent a booth in an art show, and sell them for $50 - $100 each.

That will at least allow you to recoup some of your investment smile

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Just got into playing with their LUNA recording software as well, which I'll get into on another thread.

I'm interested in your experience with LUNA- particularly if it would be advisable for beginners, new to the world of DAW. For now, visually at least, it seems simple and uncluttered, hoping it will fit on a 13" screen than others.

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Originally Posted by Stephen Fortner
Just got into playing with their LUNA recording software as well, which I'll get into on another thread.

I'm interested in your experience with LUNA- particularly if it would be advisable for beginners, new to the world of DAW. For now, visually at least, it seems simple and uncluttered, hoping it will fit on a 13" screen than others.

The last time people said "the world doesn't need another DAW" was about Studio One, and we know how that turned out smile

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Update: I put my MOTU PCIe-424 card in my aforementioned upgraded Dell T5600 frankenputer and installed the most recent drivers I could find on MOTU's website, which are from 2015. This required a bit of digging as the PCI-based systems are no longer up front on MOTU's support page, but they're there. (Heck, if you really need it for Windows PM me and I'll send you the ZIP file and save you the trouble.) Official support of this system is only through Windows 8.x. I have 10 Pro. Got everything in place, connected the 2408mk3 and HD-192 boxes to the card (thank goodness I didn't throw out my old FireWire 400 cables), rebooted, and ... everything worked without a hitch. The system sees the interfaces and passes audio, as does all my software on this machine, including Blackmagic's video editor DaVinci Resolve.

About the legacy PT stuff, Craig said:
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Here's what to do with old Pro Tools systems.
1. Disassemble the units.
2. Remove the circuit boards.
3. Spray paint the circuit boards gold, silver, copper, or candy apple red.
4. Mount them in frames.
5. Rent a booth in an art show, and sell them for $50 - $100 each.
That will at least allow you to recoup some of your investment.

Way to bum a brother out, dude! But you're right. My research into this led to a deep rabbit hole of not-worth-the-time-even-during-a-quarantine. But props to MOTU for their stability and longevity.


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Update: I put my MOTU PCIe-424 card in my aforementioned upgraded Dell T5600 frankenputer and installed the most recent drivers I could find on MOTU's website, which are from 2015. [snip] Official support of this system is only through Windows 8.x. I have 10 Pro. [snip] But props to MOTU for their stability and longevity.

I know what you mean, I have two MOTU interfaces for mobile use that simply refuse to die smile But I think the much-maligned Windows deserves some props as well. If something works with 8.1, odds are very much in your favor it will work in Windows 10, and if it does, it will probably work with any updates for the foreseeable future. Backwards compatibility has always been one of Windows' strongest points.

However, now that Microsoft is trying to sell more hardware that may change...they might pull the "you need new hardware to work with our updated OS thing" that Apple has perfected. Then again, their cloud services are doing really well, so they might feel the need to make sure their services continue to run with whatever you throw at them.

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Originally Posted by Stephen Fortner
Just got into playing with their LUNA recording software as well, which I'll get into on another thread.

I'm interested in your experience with LUNA- particularly if it would be advisable for beginners, new to the world of DAW. For now, visually at least, it seems simple and uncluttered, hoping it will fit on a 13" screen than others.

The last time people said "the world doesn't need another DAW" was about Studio One, and we know how that turned out smile

I think the last time was recently in Keyboard Corner regarding a new Behringer DAW.

Oddly, yesterday I got an email from Tracktion/Waveform telling me my entire 3 "Tracktion cash points" were about to expire and everything was on sale.
I don't quite remember how I got there, the link in the email does not take me back there now - but a page came up with a vertical split - on one side Tracktion/Roli and on the other side Behringer/ "some brand I don't remember"

Not sure what that means, did Behringer just buy Tracktion/Waveform instead of doing their own - because "the world doesn't need another DAW"?

Guess we'll all find out eventually, maybe. Weird...

Edited to add that all I could find right now is that some Behringer products used to bundle Tracktion software but that was a long time ago. Maybe they are bundling Waveform now? Odd move for a company that is working on their own DAW.

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Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
Originally Posted by Anderton
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Originally Posted by Stephen Fortner
Just got into playing with their LUNA recording software as well, which I'll get into on another thread.

I'm interested in your experience with LUNA- particularly if it would be advisable for beginners, new to the world of DAW. For now, visually at least, it seems simple and uncluttered, hoping it will fit on a 13" screen than others.

The last time people said "the world doesn't need another DAW" was about Studio One, and we know how that turned out smile

I think the last time was recently in Keyboard Corner regarding a new Behringer DAW.

Oddly, yesterday I got an email from Tracktion/Waveform telling me my entire 3 "Tracktion cash points" were about to expire and everything was on sale.
I don't quite remember how I got there, the link in the email does not take me back there now - but a page came up with a vertical split - on one side Tracktion/Roli and on the other side Behringer/ "some brand I don't remember"

Not sure what that means, did Behringer just buy Tracktion/Waveform instead of doing their own - because "the world doesn't need another DAW"?

Guess we'll all find out eventually, maybe. Weird...

Edited to add that all I could find right now is that some Behringer products used to bundle Tracktion software but that was a long time ago. Maybe they are bundling Waveform now? Odd move for a company that is working on their own DAW.


I was going to say that they still mention Waveform OEM, basically Waveform Pro, as being bundled with Behringer among others.


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Originally Posted by Mighty Motif Max
I was going to say that they still mention Waveform OEM, basically Waveform Pro, as being bundled with Behringer among others.

Thanks M M Max, that explains the posting I saw. I'm sure it will change as Behringer develops their own DAW.
Waveform OEM is probably Waveform Free with an upgrade path and maybe some extra goodies.
Waveform is my DAW of choice, just found it easy to use and stayed on.
I think choosing a DAW is completely subjective and often circumstantial. Some may be better at one thing than another but in the end it's a wash as they will all produce excellent results.
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Oddly, yesterday I got an email from Tracktion/Waveform telling me my entire 3 "Tracktion cash points" were about to expire and everything was on sale.
I don't quite remember how I got there, the link in the email does not take me back there now - but a page came up with a vertical split - on one side Tracktion/Roli and on the other side Behringer/ "some brand I don't remember"

Not sure what that means, did Behringer just buy Tracktion/Waveform instead of doing their own - because "the world doesn't need another DAW"?

Hmmmmm . . . . Just about a year ago, Tracktion joined forces with Prism Sound (yes, THE Prism sound), calling themselves Audio Squadron. They were exhibiting together at NAMM this past January, with Tracktion and SADiE co-existing (Tracktion was supplied with the Lyra series of interfaces). But now when I look at the Prism web site, I don't see a peep about Tracktion, it's all about SADiE, the hardware and software they've had for years. Maybe Behringer's parent company, Music Tribe Brands, bought Prism.

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I have recently gone to the Apple side with a MacBook Pro and a Focusrite 2i4 (IIRC). I just fool around and need to learn a whole lot more. I don't even know how to edit the wave things. I'm pretty non-tech but Garageband seems pretty friendly. I just need to use it more often. My pleasure is sitting at the piano, playing , singing sometimes, writing/notating music sometimes. I'm just not drawn to practicing with the DAW. But I have to change my ways.

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Originally Posted by Strays Dave
I have recently gone to the Apple side with a MacBook Pro and a Focusrite 2i4 (IIRC). I just fool around and need to learn a whole lot more. I don't even know how to edit the wave things. I'm pretty non-tech but Garageband seems pretty friendly. I just need to use it more often. My pleasure is sitting at the piano, playing , singing sometimes, writing/notating music sometimes. I'm just not drawn to practicing with the DAW. But I have to change my ways.

Sir Dave, you are not alone!!!
Home studio allows you to do whatever you want whenever you feel like it. That is compelling.
It also creates a conflict between your Artist and your Engineer - assuming they are both you. That is difficult.

Being much more the Artist than the Engineer, I set out to simplify my workflow. Get the basics down, able to fire up the computer, arm a track and go back to being the Artist.
Focus on your goal, there is a reason you want to record. Just learn enough to do that. Limit your options - they are endless and a rabbit hole.

It can be simple if you stay focused. Just use your favorite sounds. Don't worry about using presets, sometimes they work great and they are fast.

Once you are comfortable with that you can make progress. I ended up wanting more inputs so I can set things and leave the settings. Not everybody needs or wants that - your choice.
The less you have to do to get your tracks made the better.

Mixing is a different thing, since you won't be tracking it might be easier to blend the Artist and the Engineer, it is for me.

Once I got to a fairly comfortable place, I challenged myself by doing remixes on Metapop.com. I tried to set different challenges for each remix. At first I just took whatever was next in lne.
I really didn't like some of the music that was offered for remix. That helped me more than I could have imagined!!!!
I felt free to turn it into something completely different. I hated some of the results, that just made me laugh and I submitted them anyway.
Whether the encouragement was sincere or just fishing for "Likes", I took that as an excuse to go way beyond anything I originally thought I would ever want in my own music.

It changed me, now the Engineer is fun too. Have fun, go nuts!!! Cheers, Kuru


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Originally Posted by Strays Dave
I have recently gone to the Apple side with a MacBook Pro and a Focusrite 2i4 (IIRC). I just fool around and need to learn a whole lot more. I don't even know how to edit the wave things. I'm pretty non-tech but Garageband seems pretty friendly. I just need to use it more often. My pleasure is sitting at the piano, playing , singing sometimes, writing/notating music sometimes. I'm just not drawn to practicing with the DAW. But I have to change my ways.

Best of luck! I'm having a parallel experience. I'm one of those that never made the transition from self-contained hard disc recorder to computer-based DAW. Since my Boss recorder died my recording has been real-time, solo with Zoom Q-series (loving my Q2-4K). Got an Apple do-thingie because "everyone says they're the best for music apps". Instead, for various reasons, I installed Studio One 4 Artist on my older Windows notebook.

Smart move, starting with the Garageband. I wasn't so smart. Definitely have jumped off the deep end, but eventually I can get a handle on the Studio One, I'm sure. But like you I don't want it to distract from playing. Last night I dug out an old Bill Evans CD "Everybody Digs Bill Evans" and it was like DAMN..I have to learn how to do that! So got away from the manuals for a while.

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Thanks for the encouragement Kuru and PinkFloydCramer. I may have some questions to post when I'm further along. My recordings are all acoustic - recorded with mics. I don't want to use loops or virtual instruments. My piano is a Yamaha F01 (high end Clavinova maybe 8 model years old - I bought new 4 years ago) that sounds authentically acoustic to my ears. With GarageBand I record it with a Rode NT4 (with 2 capsules configured X/Y). I've been able to record my voice and the piano together when positioning the mic in a good spot.

I could go on about my situation, but don't want to pollute this thread with extraneous stuff. I'll probably post a question or two later, relating to my specific situation. My current goal is to do an "album". I know , what else is new ?

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Originally Posted by Strays Dave
Thanks for the encouragement Kuru and PinkFloydCramer. I may have some questions to post when I'm further along. My recordings are all acoustic - recorded with mics. I don't want to use loops or virtual instruments. My piano is a Yamaha F01 (high end Clavinova maybe 8 model years old - I bought new 4 years ago) that sounds authentically acoustic to my ears. With GarageBand I record it with a Rode NT4 (with 2 capsules configured X/Y). I've been able to record my voice and the piano together when positioning the mic in a good spot.

I could go on about my situation, but don't want to pollute this thread with extraneous stuff. I'll probably post a question or two later, relating to my specific situation. My current goal is to do an "album". I know , what else is new ?

Sounds like you are on the right track to me!
I am also working on an album or 3, I've got around 30 songs I've written that I want to record, for posteriors if nothing else. :- D
Like you, I want the music to feel "real". With no real budget I can't afford to hire local talent or I'd probably be done by now.
I know some great drummers, bassists, keyboardists and vocalists, could make an A team album if I win the lottery.

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Sounds like you are on the right track to me!
I am also working on an album or 3, I've got around 30 songs I've written that I want to record, for posteriors if nothing else. :- D
Like you, I want the music to feel "real". With no real budget I can't afford to hire local talent or I'd probably be done by now.
I know some great drummers, bassists, keyboardists and vocalists, could make an A team album if I win the lottery.

Otherwise, the world is stuck with me!!! Cheers, Kuru

It sounds like we are on similar tracks. I'm more of an acoustic oriented animal. I love and play plenty of R&R and blues, but on piano. But in the last 4-5 years my left hand has become a fairly competent bass player. So my idea for an album is the piano any my voice on 2 tracks - blended together (I realize they'll be glued together) and played and recorded together in real time - a cajon (with a bass port on the bottom - a Meinl) and maybe a pair of bongos (on a stand). No sticks - brushes or conga thingies (see my photo below).


And then.....my idea is to record in my living room. A human playing basic percussion. For drums/percussion I figure I only need a good back beat with some "flams" (whatever percussion term) on the 2's and 4's. I have a variety of brush things and so on. So - record in real time - me and a pared-down drummer. Then take those 3 or 4 tracks and later on play with and add parts as I see fit. Experiment with arrangement details. Try to apply what I've listened to from my Beatles brethren over several decades of my life.

Now....I live in Orlando. So there are some Full Sail dudes here and there. There's also a much cheaper program at the local Valencia State College - a competing public education options with a great audio program. So I figure I might get a guy who works at Sam Ash or Guitar Center to come record in my living room. All practiced and rehearsed up with the drummer. Record in maybe 3-4 hours. I've actually written some songs in the last couple years. My theory is that if I'm playing a restaurant/bar gig in the future (I'm currently playing 8 "dates" per month at old folks homes - before the plague hit) and someone has several drinks and asks "do you have a CD for sale" - I wanna have one. Or 2 (Kuru). Now I realize
the CD's are obsolete. The players have disappeared from cars. And after CD's have been wiped out, they'll eventually be cool again. And the more difficult they are to actually play (due to the wipe out of CD players) the cooler. And people will start saying that you can hear details blah blah blah.

Oh and while I'm at it Kuru. What's the deal on copyrighting ? Maybe another different thread. I'm afraid to make anything public and get screwed over. I understand that the snowball's chance in hell that anyone notices anything I do, but I have a politically topical song for instance. I wanna put it on YouTube but I'm afraid to before I've protected myself. I know I can Google this - but it's for me about the same as reading income tax instructions - pure drudgery. So do I need to submit a lead sheet or simply a recording and some lyrics.

This is directed to Kuru and I know I've strayed from the point of the thread. Moderator please move it if called for.
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Great post Strays Dave!

If you are the sole creator, you can copyright 10 songs as a single copyright for one fee. Joint copyright is more complicated and more expensive.

A simple chart with chords and lyrics for each song compiled as a single document and a low quality MONO .mp3 (much smaller file size) with all the songs in the same order is all you really need besides the fee.
I've got quite a few of my songs copyrighted and will copyright the rest before release.

https://www.copyright.gov/registration/

Musicians are putting those square phone codes on a promo sheet by the tip jar now and cards with a link to the downloads. Host your own site with downloads and use Paypal or Venmo if just doing local bar gig business.
You can have CDs, you'll sell a few.
But you're right, they are going the way of the dinosaur. It will be a while before they are gone but currently they run about $2 at the thrift store and not many (if any) places locally to buy them.
I sort of doubt they will be "culty" like albums, they just aren't that cool.

I am both acoustic and electric, have a variety of guitars, basses, percussion, etc. I like your workflow idea, real musicians playing real music.
Spend the time on your own getting your mic setups and your sounds so the others can just show up and start playing. Experiement, sometimes little things make a HUGE difference.
I would get that all worked out before enlisting others, you want to get the best possible results the first time.

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This is directed to Kuru and I know I've strayed from the point of the thread. Moderator please move it if called for.
People here are so darn considerate smile

No problem, but I think starting a separate thread about copyright might be good...for example, how to deal with doing cover tunes on YouTube, whether you really need to copyright or whether the de facto date of creation and proof of same is enough, etc.

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Great post Strays Dave!

If you are the sole creator, you can copyright 10 songs as a single copyright for one fee. Joint copyright is more complicated and more expensive.

A simple chart with chords and lyrics for each song compiled as a single document and a low quality MONO .mp3 (much smaller file size) with all the songs in the same order is all you really need besides the fee.
I've got quite a few of my songs copyrighted and will copyright the rest before release.

https://www.copyright.gov/registration/

Musicians are putting those square phone codes on a promo sheet by the tip jar now and cards with a link to the downloads. Host your own site with downloads and use Paypal or Venmo if just doing local bar gig business.
You can have CDs, you'll sell a few.
But you're right, they are going the way of the dinosaur. It will be a while before they are gone but currently they run about $2 at the thrift store and not many (if any) places locally to buy them.
I sort of doubt they will be "culty" like albums, they just aren't that cool.

I am both acoustic and electric, have a variety of guitars, basses, percussion, etc. I like your workflow idea, real musicians playing real music.
Spend the time on your own getting your mic setups and your sounds so the others can just show up and start playing. Experiement, sometimes little things make a HUGE difference.
I would get that all worked out before enlisting others, you want to get the best possible results the first time.

Do you subscribe to TapeOp magazine? Subscriptions are free, either online or an actual magazine. Over the years I've learned a TON of good stuff reading TapeOp.
https://tapeop.com
Cheers, Kuru


A lot to chew on. First I'll mention I'm not against electric instruments. Probably more against volume for the sake of volume. I have Electric Ladyland on my phone and listen sometimes on walks. But in my living room with a jazz guitar player who's just grown accustomed to playing loudly - to me at least. Anyhoo...

My real concern in my immediate musical project life is to do whatever heavy lifting is needed to achieve copyrights on songs. I'm thinking a new thread is called for like Craig said. So all I'll say is that from your (Kuru's) comment about a single mp3 audio file in mono is best AND that a single document (maybe a PDF?) would mean to me: 1) record all of my songs (I think 7) in succession and the Wave file converted and saved to a mono mp3. The file may end up being 12-15 minutes long. So maybe record as an mp3 ? 2) All of the lyrics scanned (my printer doubles as a scanner) as one continuous PDF file.


I think maybe I should start 2 new threads. 1) Copyrighting the songs, and 2) doing a homemade album . I think in the near term I should begin efforts to record the homemade album on my own - without my projected scheme. It'll be a good while before someone will be coming into my house. I can work on getting ideas for grooves/arrangements for specific songs. And recording some of the ideas. And I can ask for advice from the knowledge hive here on this forum.

And if I'm thinking of these things, others are others thinking of some of these things ? Ponderings. Thanks for advice. Kuru and Craig. And PinkKramer.

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Those would be good threads, I've learned a TON on MPN too. These are great fora.

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Mainly do live playing, so I like compact audio interfaces:

iRig Pro Duo
Mackie MDB-USB Direct Interface

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On my Windows 10 studio DAW PC: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 2nd Generation (USB2)

On my MacBook Pro laptop (Mid-2012, Mojave): Echo AudioFire 4 (Firewire)

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Possible stray from OT: I already have a Focusrite 18i8 which works well in a stationary application with AC power available and a bit of room. For an upcoming project, I'm considering a Zoom H4n Pro primarily for audio recording of a class, but also for application to connect to my Macbook Pro or Zbook 17G2 notebooks for quality audio in and out. The 4 channels is enough for this application, mostly will be only two.

Any comments by someone who uses this Zoom would be appreciated.


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I still use my MOTU Audio Express for recording. I'm on a 2015 MBP so I've had to revert to USB and the power supply as opposed to Firewire (with a Thunderbolt adapter, for whatever reason this interface doesn't like to see adapters). If I needed to start from scratch or expand beyond what I have now I would definitely look into the MOTU M4 or the Arturia Audiofuse.

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I bought an RME Hammerfall and Multiface II combo in ~2012. I don't plan to upgrade any time soon. I think it's a great, flexible combo, and while I really only need two channels active at a time, having 8 gives me future flexbility.

I used to have an M-Audio Delta66 and while it wasn't bad in hindsight, the RME combo takes away any excuses. Absent buying an Apogee clock and high-end, discrete converters, I don't think I could do better.


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