pjd Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Hi -- Just wanted to offer new information about the Yamaha SHS-500 Sonogenic keytar. I developed and posted a voice editor for the Yamaha SHS-500 Sonogenic on my web site. The voice editor is a MIDI Designer layout. MIDI Designer is a MIDI user interface development app that runs on Apple iPad. Download the layout from: http://sandsoftwaresound.net/sonogenic-voice-editor/ It's free. I hope to upload the layout to the MIDI Designer site, too. Yamaha don't promote it, but the SHS-500 Sonogenic has a built-in General MIDI tone generator in addition to the 28 "panel" voices. The GM tone generator is only accessible over MIDI. (Yep, you can play GM files from a DAW.) The MIDI Designer layout uses the GM tone generator. So, if you're missing drawbar organ or whatever, you can play its GM voice through MIDI Designer via MIDI loopback. MIDI Designer provides storage for up to twenty voices. (Somewhat confusingly, MIDI Designer calls these slots "presets.") Thus, you can store and recall your own voices using MIDI Designer. If you would like to read more, please see the links below. All the best -- pj http://sandsoftwaresound.net/shs-500-snap-review/ http://sandsoftwaresound.net/sonogenic-voice-editor/ http://sandsoftwaresound.net/sonogenic-general-midi/ http://sandsoftwaresound.net/sonogenic-ui-midi-flow/ http://sandsoftwaresound.net/shs-500-sonogenic-midi/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentCPT Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just a suggestion...get rid of the 22 useless voices...keep the 8 useful ones...and add 10 new ones. Below are the details. PLEASE...GET RID OF THESE INSTRUMENTS/SOUNDS (22) 001 Sawlead 1 002 Sawlead 2 003 Quack Ld 004 Brite Dcy 005 Square Ld 006 Undr Hein 007 Analogon 008 Syn Brass 009 E Piano 010 DX Piano 011 E Guitar 012 J Guitar 013 A Guitar 014 E Bass 015 Slap Bass 016 Syn Bass 017 Dx Bass 020 Pno& Pad 023 Brass 027 Tenor Sax 029 House Kit 030 Power Kit KEEP THESE VOICES (8) 018 Piano 019 Pno & Strs 021 Air Choir 022 Strings 024 Trumpet 025 Flute 026 Alto Sax 028 Harmonica ADD THESE INSTRUMENTS* (10) French horn Trombone Clarinet Oboe Pan flute Organ Pipe Organ Cello Violin Harp *If you are looking for the perfect duplicate voice/sounds, see YAMAHA PSR E343 Adjusting these voices, would make the YAMAHA SHS-500 Sonogenic the PERFECT keytar. Thank you for your time. Brent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjd Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 Hi Brent -- Thanks for trying the SHS-500 for MIDI Designer. The neat thing about MIDI Designer -- it lets you customize layouts. So, you should be able to edit the existing layout and delete/add voices. It's not much harder than editing a synth preset. If I remember right, there are two kinds of voice buttons in the layout: SHS-500 preset voices and GM voices. The main difference is the bank select and program select values. In order to create your perfect set-up, I would recommend deleting the unwanted voices from the MIDI Designer layout and adding ten more GM voice buttons. That way you can allocate screen space/buttons to the mix of voices that meet your requirements. Thanks to editing, everybody can create their own "perfect" sound set for the SHS-500. Hope this suggestion helps -- pj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentCPT Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Hi PJ... Thanks so much for your kind reply. I have downloaded midmittr as well as MIDI Designer Pro2 to my ipad air 3. Adjusted my Sonogenic 500 to Midi select BLE MIDI. All devices are connected in sync. I turned on the MIDI Designer Pro2. (Pretty colors) lol Tutorial (red)....Browse (yellow)...Connect (green)...Design (blue)...Play (purple). In the design mode.......There are A LOT of draw-bars, knobs, buttons. NONE of which make any sense. I am looking for ANY button, knob, bar, that indicates a sound. But its all in code. (Its like YAMAHA doesn't want me to change anything) Sorry...but this might as well be in Chinese. Thanks anyway for all your help. It have been most appreciated. Brent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjd Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 Hi Brent -- After all your work, I wouldn't leave you hangin'. :-) I ran off some screen shots over breakfast and posted a short tutorial about customizing the editor. I hope it's enough to get you started. All the best -- pj http://sandsoftwaresound.net/customizing-the-sonogenic-voice-editor/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentCPT Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Hi PJ Thanks for the extra tutorial help. I sort of figured out the problem. (I think) After pressing BLUE DESIGN button in the MIDI Designer Pro 2...I did NOT lead me to the Sonogenic Effects, Voice, Voice edit page. This leads me to believe that my iPad blue tooth is not connected to the Sonogenic. In the MIDImittr screen....it says it is. But the MIDI designer pro 2 says it isn't. I am getting CLOSE....very close!!! Brent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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