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Roland RD-88
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Looks good

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PHA-4 Standard Keyboard: with Escapement and Ivory Feel
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The weight is right. Wheels on top for compactness. But external PSU - common in this weight bracket.

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I was waiting for when they will release a new affordable RD after the pricey 800 and the even priceyer 2000. This might be just the thing for our church band. I still find the EPs lifeless though.

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I'm hope they'll be a better demo of this.


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Who demos a stage piano with clear shots of him using mainstage? I also noted it has what looks like speaker grills.


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It DOES look good. Not a big fan of Roland APianos (sound-wise, but I do like the Roland actions)but it might be a good casual (restaurant and other low profile) gig board IF the price is right ($999) or less.

$1199 street and 29 lbs? Hmmm....

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The Roland website shows the MainStage integration as intentional and by design. Also, wasn't there just a thread here praising the PHA-4 action?

Speakers are 6W each, and look tiny by the photos. Not sure how useful they'll be for anything but personal practice.

I like the more compact form factor and the lighter weight. I wonder how customizable the SN pianos are.


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The Roland website shows the MainStage integration as intentional and by design


Okay good for a controller, but what are you hearing in the video? There are 3 posibilites, a virtual instrument, the piano processed by a plugin or just the instrument.
I'm commenting on the demo, I'm sure it is a fine board. But you don't really know by that video.

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I applaud efforts to put quality sounds and weighted action in more portable streamlined packages, but wish they would go "all the way" and make it a 76er without speakers. The dream lives on. I can see why the PHA4 action might lead someone choose this over the sub-30 lb competition.


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PHA-4 Concert Keyboard: with Escapement and Ebony/Ivory Feel is on the RD-800.
I prefer it to the PHA-50 Keyboard: Wood and Plastic Hybrid Structure, with Escapement and Ebony/Ivory Feel (88 keys) on the RD-2000.

I think Roland is all in on their V-Piano modeling. I believe they use it across the digital piano line now. - home models and the flagship stage piano.

This RD-88 is an interesting development as a controller - perhaps for some more so than the A-88 they just released.


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Originally Posted by Adan
I applaud efforts to put quality sounds and weighted action in more portable streamlined packages, but wish they would go "all the way" and make it a 76er without speakers. The dream lives on. I can see why the PHA4 action might lead someone choose this over the sub-30 lb competition.


Even though it’s 400 more than the Casio px3000, I’d take this over the Casio any day
Better keyboard
Better interface
Better controller
only downside is 8lbs heavier, but I’ll take heavier weight for better features

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Originally Posted by jimkost2002
Originally Posted by Adan
I applaud efforts to put quality sounds and weighted action in more portable streamlined packages, but wish they would go "all the way" and make it a 76er without speakers. The dream lives on. I can see why the PHA4 action might lead someone choose this over the sub-30 lb competition.


Even though it’s 400 more than the Casio px3000, I’d take this over the Casio any day
Better keyboard
Better interface
Better controller
only downside is 8lbs heavier, but I’ll take heavier weight for better features


I’m interested in this one, too. I like the Bluetooth connectivity, plus what appears to be lighter action. SuperNatural tweaking to both AP and EP. Not a lot of photos yet, nothing on Sweetwater (and they usually are right on it), no user manual yet.

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Street Price $1,199.99 - this is a problem for some competitors for sure.

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I'm glad to see a real button interface, a move away from either scrolling or using the piano keys as controls, as has gotten so common on the lightweight slabs. And 5-pin MIDI. (But only Out?)


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MIDI OUT only is weird.
But 3 parts is better than 2.


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Originally Posted by drawback

nothing on Sweetwater (and they usually are right on it)



There you go wink
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RD88--roland-rd-88-88-key-stage-piano


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[quote=marczellm]MIDI OUT only is weird.
But 3 parts is better than 2.[/quote

My RD-64 also has MIDI out only, also. Hopefully the RD-88 will allow you to use an expression pedal for onboard sounds, something you can't do on the RD-64. But overall, an updated, 88 key version of the RD-64 appeals to me because I really like my 64, I just seem to connect with it- and definitely have NEVER been a Roland fanboy. Have thought about asking here which Roland 88 is most like the RD-64.

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uninformative video but loving the concept.
roland are listening - wheels above the keys!


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Huh! Maybe a worthy eventual successor to my FP-4.

Also, sorry, but... not only are the wheels above the keys, but they're *wheels*. How often do they stray from the paddle?


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I dig it, at the price point it’s gonna be hard to say no to. I prefer 88’s without the paddle, just a few inches less makes all the difference loading it into the car.

Now, about the friggin’ wall wart...

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A successor to RD300nx in something close to the FP30 shell.

Pretty sure this is the first “RD” with built in speakers.

I honestly think they should have gone with an internal power supply though, since RD is the pro line. Sure, it would add a few lbs (and a few £) but I could have lived with that.

I just have no interest in having to carry external power supplies. I know it doesn’t bother some people but it’s a dealbreaker for me.


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Originally Posted by GuiliClayder
Originally Posted by drawback

nothing on Sweetwater (and they usually are right on it)



There you go wink
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RD88--roland-rd-88-88-key-stage-piano


Thankya, thankya vurreemuch. I wonder how much actual SuperNatural editing is possible? I was able to tweak out many inherent Roland AP cheese, and EP artifacts, even with the RD700. The RD64 had no sound shaping capabilities.


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Originally Posted by The Piano Man
I honestly think they should have gone with an internal power supply though, since RD is the pro line. Sure, it would add a few lbs (and a few £) but I could have lived with that.

I just have no interest in having to carry external power supplies. I know it doesn’t bother some people but it’s a dealbreaker for me.

Seems they could have swapped the internal speakers (anyone here really need/want those?) for an internal power supply. But I get that the external power supply makes it easier to bring to market.

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OK, I was looking for an RD-800 but maybe this will work well enough and give me what I am looking for, but I agree, that video is really not very helpful (to put it mildly)


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Originally Posted by drawback

Rush entry to NAMM?


Would explain the video for sure, seems like it was maybe shot in the last day or two for some quick pre-NAMM facetime.


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Apparently will be possible to load sounds from other Zen Core keyboards like Fantom and Jupiter X

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Originally Posted by Jinkings
Apparently will be possible to load sounds from other Zen Core keyboards like Fantom and Jupiter X

^^^This

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Originally Posted by Adan

..., but wish they would go "all the way" and make it a 76er without speakers. [


Precisely 76er A-C w/ oct. up/down buttons & momentary ft.-sw. control !

Originally Posted by Adan

The dream lives on.


yep !

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