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korg announced a new digital synth "wavestate"
available this month for under 800 us$.

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do we need this kind of synth? maybe. the sounddemos on the KORG WEBSITE sound "ok".
but honestly: only a few sounddemos in the history of sounddemos sounded fkkn überawesome so we have to wait and check it out ourselfs, i guess.
also interesting will be to compair it with the modal argon8



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Haven't watched the videos yet, but it looks like they borrowed a lot of design elements from the Monologue/Monologue series.

I have an old Korg Wavestation SR, and in spite of the PITA programming it, it's one of my favorite Synths. If this thing does the Wave Sequencing, and sounds like the Wavestation, I may have to start saving up.


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I don't personally need it at all. I've had mostly Korg gear as my main hardware, but with the Legacy Wavestation and Arturia Pigments in-hand, I'm all wavetabled up. I AM interested in the nice acoustic piano and string patches that cropped up a bit, but they're not the main reason you'd buy this. If you were even halfway serious about a new WS as hardware, here you go, with the programming issues largely addressed. You might argue about form factors such as keyboard length, but the engine and the display's ready presentation of the wave sequences make it a sober contender in this new price range.


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check this video. sounds good.
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My favorite part of Daniel Fisher's demo is when he showcases the Randomizer around 26:00. Getting into Subotnick and wilder territory.


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fkkn hell! itz fkkn great!
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Originally Posted by GovernorSilver
My favorite part of Daniel Fisher's demo is when he showcases the Randomizer around 26:00.


Listening to this was the first time I actually liked the sound of this keyboard, didn't get to use this feature when I was playing it at NAMM. So now I am wondering, how would one re create a sound if needed using the Ramdonizing feature.
Is it even possible?


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By definition it isn't, so just get in the habit of saving experiments that have promise. Remember the WaveState has unlimited patch storage, so you won't run out of room.


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thanks for confirming, my brother.


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Originally Posted by davedoerfler
Originally Posted by GovernorSilver
My favorite part of Daniel Fisher's demo is when he showcases the Randomizer around 26:00.


Listening to this was the first time I actually liked the sound of this keyboard, didn't get to use this feature when I was playing it at NAMM. So now I am wondering, how would one re create a sound if needed using the Ramdonizing feature.
Is it even possible?


I wonder if the wavesequence stuff is output to MIDI. Then maybe the MIDI data can be recorded in an external MIDI recorder, and thus some sort of re-creation is possible.

Until Korg uploads the manual, MIDI implementation document, etc. maybe this Korg graphic clears some things?

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Wave Sequencing 2.0 splits apart the timing, the sequence of samples, and the melody, so that each can be manipulated independently. Also added are new characteristics including shapes, gate times, and step sequencer values. Each of these is a “Lane,” and each Lane can have a different number of steps and its own start, end, and loop points.

Every time the sequence moves forward, the individual Lanes are combined to create the output. For instance, a sample may be matched with a different duration, pitch, shape, gate length, and step sequence value every time that it plays. You can modulate each Lane’s start, end, and loop points separately for every note, using velocity, LFOs, envelopes, Mod Knobs, or other controllers. Each note in a chord can be playing something different!

Lanes can also randomize the step order every time they play, with realtime control over the range of included steps. Finally, individual steps can be randomly skipped, with a modulatable probability from 0 to 100%. The result is organic, ever-changing sounds that respond to your control. The four onboard arpeggiators can interact with Wave Sequences for even more possibilities.


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Randomization that inspires.

Looking for even more inspiration? A dedicated front-panel button, marked by a “dice” icon, generates new sounds via intelligent randomization. Randomize the entire sound or just a part of it, such as the filter, the Sample Lane, or the effects. Use the results directly, or as a jumping-off point for your own creations.

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The word is the whole thing is built on a Rasberry Pi. Or something like that.


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It's not a WaveState by any means, but I use delayed envelopes to do wave sequencing with IK's Syntronik. I've used this technique with other synths too. Of course it's all "manual labor" so it's a PITA time-wise, but you can get some pretty cool sounds.

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Originally Posted by uhoh7
The word is the whole thing is built on a Rasberry Pi. Or something like that.


Confirmed.

https://www.synthanatomy.com/2020/02/meet-the-lead-developer-of-the-korg-wavestate-synthesizer.html

I'm sure some people will immediately think "what a cheap POS... I'm gonna buy a different synth then". OTOH, the Tasty Chips granular synth is also built on that.

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Originally Posted by GovernorSilver
Originally Posted by uhoh7
The word is the whole thing is built on a Rasberry Pi. Or something like that.


Confirmed.

https://www.synthanatomy.com/2020/02/meet-the-lead-developer-of-the-korg-wavestate-synthesizer.html

I'm sure some people will immediately think "what a cheap POS... I'm gonna buy a different synth then". OTOH, the Tasty Chips granular synth is also built on that.

People have no freakin' idea how many of the "hardware synths" they're buying these days are Arduinos or RPis with fancy shells. They're enormously powerful computers and can do wonders when programmed properly. I am glad the SynthAnatomy piece was published, so I don't have to keep the innards a secret any more.


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so it would be possible to run other raspberry engines on it.
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I hope they release a full editor for this one soon. My wallet is pulling me towards the store butt-first, but I can't see tackling this behemoth in a practical way without a broader parameter spread in view. The panel controls are well-conceived, but its four whole engines deep. C'mon, Mac editor! cheers


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