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Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3017278 11/25/19 02:42 AM
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I'm more than happy to just read what you professionals are using. But since you asked Mr. Anderton, here are my favorites

Eventide H9 Blackhole algorithm - doesn't even try to be a "natural" reverb. Very in your face about not being "natural", and one of the reason I love it.

Boss Katana Plate - my favorite of the reverbs available in this popular working muso's guitar amp. Somebody posted a collection of ambient patches for Katana and they all used Plate rather than the other reverb types. Versatile enough for uses from basic practice amp usage to super long trails and such.

Empress Zoia - Actually haven't found a reverb in this little modular pedal that I didn't like. Some peeps make much ado about how the Ghost reverb consumes so much CPU but there are a lot of great Zoia (imo) patches that do NOT use Ghost and still sound awesome.

QES Retrofier Roadtripper MCM Spring - my favorite of all the real spring reverbs I've tried, and the only one that I think sounds good with electric violin. All other spring reverbs I've tried - real and virtual - insert ringing tones that ring in the wrong way for electric violin.

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Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3018009 12/01/19 02:51 AM
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Just picked up Abbey Road Chambers yesterday on a Black Friday deal. The demos sound good, and I've just been using the stock Cubase reverb (Roomworks) up until now.


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Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3018045 12/01/19 04:31 PM
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Abbey Road Chambers is fantastic. I fell in love with it immediately for getting "that" drum sound. It's not a diaphanous reverb; it has a somewhat thick sound, which is ideal for some situations. Also note they require a lot of CPU. This is a situation where it's likely you'll be using a reverb bus, instead of inserting on individual tracks...although the bus is also a more "authentic" approach.

It may seem like the options for editing are limited (after all, it is a convolution reverb), but make sure you try the different speakers and room positions. Those settings can make a major difference in the sound.

Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3018048 12/01/19 04:53 PM
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FWIW...the drums on this song use only Abbey Road Chambers. I think it's pretty representative of the kind of sound you can get from the 'verbs.


Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3018097 12/02/19 02:52 AM
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I used to traditionally stack grainy hardware reverbs to overcome their lacks and I've had some ART and Lexicon time, so I understand the span of the options. I'm considering the Eventide Blackhole plug, but with Logic's Space Designer being a convolution reverb, I find tweaking it to be perfectly satisfying. It winds up on the Master send quite a bit. SilverVerb and EnVerb do insert duty nicely, so its like a far more sane version of the "Good" Old Days, when I'd run a Roland half-rack reverb through an Inbanez pedal and pretend the gritty whoosh was intentional wind effects. Logic's channel strips have spoiled me. As a result, I'm more busy convincing myself that I need a new VA synth than auditioning reverbs.


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Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3019706 12/16/19 05:05 PM
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Native Instruments just sent me a free download of a reverb plug-in called RAUM.
"Xmas gift" for being a customer. Nice...

I put it on a scratch track of vocal and acoustic guitar and tried the 3 basic presets. It sounded very nice, there is a 3d ambience.
LOTS of knobs for adjusting parameters, more than usual.

Seems to be a keeper, gotta love the price!!!


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Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: David Emm] #3019748 12/16/19 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by David Emm
I'm considering the Eventide Blackhole plug, but with Logic's Space Designer being a convolution reverb, I find tweaking it to be perfectly satisfying.

I don't have a lot of convolution reverbs, but for those who do, a question: If you use the same impulse in different convolution reverbs, is the end result the same? Or do they all sound somewhat different? I'd think it would be the former since the impulse is the heart of the process, but haven't tried enough convolution reverbs to know.

Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3019863 12/17/19 08:04 PM
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After taking a look at the manual and goofing around with it more, NI Raum is awesome, extremely versatile and has a place to store presets - plus a good selection of factory presets (starting points?).

Everybody can have it for FREE! I have no affiliation with Native Instruments but I have purchased some of their products and probably will in the future. Meanwhile, there is no way to lose on this.
The linked page will allow you to log in and get the plugin for free and there is a link to the manual on the left side down the page a bit.
They don't spam me enough to worry about...

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Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3019879 12/17/19 10:17 PM
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Thanks for the heads-up! Downloaded.

Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3019883 12/17/19 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Anderton
Thanks for the heads-up! Downloaded.


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Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3019926 12/18/19 01:41 AM
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Convolution reverbs are convenient but they have their limits. They can't produce the constantly evolving nature of the nonlinear algorithm class like those in legacy Lexicons, EMT, others.

One of the reasons why the "classic era" Lexicon reverbs are unique is they employ time variation in their algorithms in the form of moving delay lines or time-varying output taps. They also have an inherent form of program dependency where different input volumes result in dynamically changing reverb time and other interactive parameters - much like a natural reverbrant closed space. This creates a very rich constantly evolving reverb that convolution can't replicate.

Not that convolution reverbs are inferior. They are very practical.

Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3020049 12/19/19 01:32 AM
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And here is another free reverb plug-in from Arturia.
This time it's a plate reverb. Demos sound cool, I've got it installed but haven't used it.

Free until Dec 25th so don't wait around if you want it.

Tis the season to be reverberant!!!

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Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: The Real MC] #3020122 12/19/19 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Real MC
Convolution reverbs are convenient but they have their limits. They can't produce the constantly evolving nature of the nonlinear algorithm class like those in legacy Lexicons, EMT, others.

To me, it's very similar to the synth vs. sampler difference...or painting vs. photograph. I use algorithm-based reverbs more than impulse-based ones, although the Abbey Road Chambers have skewed the percentage more toward convolution.

Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3021194 12/28/19 05:01 AM
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I just got the Industrialelectric RM-1n. What a gloriously filthy, messy, chaotic box.

Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: KuruPrionz] #3023613 01/14/20 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
Native Instruments just sent me a free download of a reverb plug-in called RAUM.
"Xmas gift" for being a customer. Nice...


forgot about this but Native Instruments was kind enough to send me a friendly reminder today. Just downloaded, won't be able to check it out until after NAMM.


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Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
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Originally Posted by davedoerfler
Originally Posted by KuruPrionz
Native Instruments just sent me a free download of a reverb plug-in called RAUM.
"Xmas gift" for being a customer. Nice...


forgot about this but Native Instruments was kind enough to send me a friendly reminder today. Just downloaded, won't be able to check it out until after NAMM.


Register it and you are golden.
I tossed it on a couple of tracks and surfed some presets.
Barely scratched the surface, it's capable of many fine things.
A good addition.


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Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: KuruPrionz] #3023684 01/15/20 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KuruPrionz

Register it and you are golden.

will do thu


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Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
Re: Reverb, anyone? [Re: Anderton] #3024544 01/19/20 04:55 PM
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Valhalla Room.

Algorithms ftw.

Although I'm quite anxious to try the IK Multimedia Sunset Sound plugin....


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