Morrissey Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Would someone please educate me as to what Larry Goldings is doing, visible around the 0:19 mark of the video? It appears he is making just small changes to a sustained chord in his right hand, and then rapidly "playing" the preset keys with his left hand to change the sound of the sustained right-hand chord. This technique is unfamiliar to me (and very cool). Are there other good examples of this I should check out? [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Yes, that's exactly what he is doing. I have used this technique myself. Since the preset keys on a console are latched, one must keep the cancel key (bottom C) depressed, which holds down the latch bar. Then press down alternating preset keys to get abrupt tonal changes. What I did was a kind of variation of this. I used to play Won't Get Fooled Again on organ, and got the gating effect by holding down cancel and rhythmically playing a preset key. That way your right hand doesn't have to lift and the gated sound is much more clean because all notes of the chord are attacking and releasing at exactly the same time. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 Thanks, Moe. This technique makes a ton of sense for WGFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Harrison Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Are there other good examples of this I should check out? "Glass" on the album "As One" (see from 1:42): [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSeIIp35XnM "Come in and Pray" on the album "Sweet Science": [video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEQ75t4HWXI "Crying Time" live with John Scofield & Greg Hutchinson (starts at 18:35; you can hear this technique at 19:08-19:45, and 20:53-21:53, and you can see it clearly at 21:23-21:35). I really like the outro of this track, which is a soulful and funky 5-minute jam starting at 22:50. [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Larry is a monster. One of my faves. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 Great examples, Paul. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulf Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Haven't seen those before, great examples and a super cool technique. Thanks! Quote Rock bottom bass Fakebook Pro Sheet Music Reader - at every gig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelBLupowitz Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Drat, I guess I can't play this on my Mojo! Because that obscure technique is the only thing from keeping me from playing like Larry Goldings, obviously. :wink: Quote Samuel B. Lupowitz Musician. Songwriter. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrythek Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Dr. Al Kooper showed this technique to me when we (Korg) were developing the CX3 V2 in the early 2000s. He said alternating between the Eb and Gb presets was a classic Reggae Wah effect that was taught to him. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B3 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Dr. Al Kooper showed this technique to me when we (Korg) were developing the CX3 V2 in the early 2000s. He said alternating between the Eb and Gb presets was a classic Reggae Wah effect that was taught to him. Jerry Is there anyway to replicate this on the actual Korg CX3? Quote My drawbars go to eleven. Gear: Roland VR-09, Nord Electro 2 61, Korg CX-3. Hear my music: facebook.com/smokestoneband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 Dr. Al Kooper showed this technique to me when we (Korg) were developing the CX3 V2 in the early 2000s. He said alternating between the Eb and Gb presets was a classic Reggae Wah effect that was taught to him. Jerry Is there anyway to replicate this on the actual Korg CX3? That's a great question. I sold my CX3 several years ago. I would've answered that this technique isn't possible on any clonewheel without the preset keys, but of all clones without preset keys, the CX3 seems like it might be possible. It had the two sets of drawbars and the "EX mode" to create new a different soundscapes with the drawbars. Perhaps that functionality could be leveraged to replicate this technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B3 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Dr. Al Kooper showed this technique to me when we (Korg) were developing the CX3 V2 in the early 2000s. He said alternating between the Eb and Gb presets was a classic Reggae Wah effect that was taught to him. Jerry Is there anyway to replicate this on the actual Korg CX3? That's a great question. I sold my CX3 several years ago. I would've answered that this technique isn't possible on any clonewheel without the preset keys, but of all clones without preset keys, the CX3 seems like it might be possible. It had the two sets of drawbars and the "EX mode" to create new a different soundscapes with the drawbars. Perhaps that functionality could be leveraged to replicate this technique. Wonder if alternating the two Drawbar 1/Drawbar 2 buttons, with different registrations each would sound similar as the hammond... Quote My drawbars go to eleven. Gear: Roland VR-09, Nord Electro 2 61, Korg CX-3. Hear my music: facebook.com/smokestoneband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Haven't tried it but I would imagine if you created presets on any clone and had a way to switch between them quickly you do something similar. Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_OA Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 As a Hammond-newbie, it never seeses to amaze me what different sounds and textures you can get from that instrument. Quote Trumpet player by trade, but fell in love with keys too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 newB3 manual http://hammondorganco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/NewB3.pdf Quote Find 660 of my jazz piano arrangements of standards for educational purposes and tutorials at www.Patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Before there was Jimmy, there was Ethel. [video:youtube] Quote -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Those gals are sure happy. One can certainly pull drawbars in and out while playing to achieve the wah effect. I've seen vids of Chester Thompson and John Medeski doing it. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrythek Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Dr. Al Kooper showed this technique to me when we (Korg) were developing the CX3 V2 in the early 2000s. He said alternating between the Eb and Gb presets was a classic Reggae Wah effect that was taught to him. Jerry Is there anyway to replicate this on the actual Korg CX3? Sadly no. We were working at SIR NY, with his favorite rental B3/Leslie so we could try to match its timbres etc. for his presets. So he was showing me on the real thing. The CX3 has no morph feature. which would be needed to replicate the effect. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrythek Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 This would be a "poor man's substitute" since it would be a hard switch. Close, but not quite accurate. When you slowly press the preset keys you hear each drawbar contact trigger, in much the same way that the keys behave when you slowly depress them. So the subtle, but constant variations in the sound switching aren't there. But you might still enjoy the effect. Jerry Dr. Al Kooper showed this technique to me when we (Korg) were developing the CX3 V2 in the early 2000s. He said alternating between the Eb and Gb presets was a classic Reggae Wah effect that was taught to him. Jerry Is there anyway to replicate this on the actual Korg CX3? That's a great question. I sold my CX3 several years ago. I would've answered that this technique isn't possible on any clonewheel without the preset keys, but of all clones without preset keys, the CX3 seems like it might be possible. It had the two sets of drawbars and the "EX mode" to create new a different soundscapes with the drawbars. Perhaps that functionality could be leveraged to replicate this technique. Wonder if alternating the two Drawbar 1/Drawbar 2 buttons, with different registrations each would sound similar as the hammond... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Harrison Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 One can certainly pull drawbars in and out while playing to achieve the wah effect. I've seen vids of Chester Thompson and John Medeski doing it. If you manipulate the drawbars *really* skilfully, you can literally make a Hammond organ talk. [video:youtube] See also: https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2018/08/03/manual-vocoding-on-a-hammond-organ/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Before there was Jimmy, there was Ethel. [video:youtube] There it is at the 0:15 mark. She's a trailblazer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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