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I broke a cardinal rule #3015692 11/12/19 12:20 AM
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Okay! I admit it! I am learning the keyboard part to JUMP! There i said it! blush


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015697 11/12/19 12:30 AM
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How is that breaking a cardinal rule? In the gigging world, it's bad form NOT to know it, it's bound to come up.

Only thing that gets some keyboardists is the "wind-down" at the end of the of the solo. I just listened to the original, I've forgotten just how all-over-the-place Eddy's time is in that spot. Hey, it works, but it's kind of funny picking it apart: he stumbles a bit and then is early on the last note.


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015698 11/12/19 12:39 AM
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Well, i thought there was a stigma with this song. Especially on this forum. Like guitarists and Stairway to heaven.


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: EricBarker] #3015700 11/12/19 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by EricBarker
How is that breaking a cardinal rule? In the gigging world, it's bad form NOT to know it, it's bound to come up.

Only thing that gets some keyboardists is the "wind-down" at the end of the of the solo. I just listened to the original, I've forgotten just how all-over-the-place Eddy's time is in that spot. Hey, it works, but it's kind of funny picking it apart: he stumbles a bit and then is early on the last note.

I never really thought of Jump as having a keyboard solo other than the Intro chords (repeated during the song ) and a prominent arpeggio keyboard that is usually sloppier than the Grateful Dead, unless the keyboardist has written the part out.


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015706 11/12/19 01:41 AM
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It's a tongue-in-cheek rule only, Paul. Play it and have fun!

Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015711 11/12/19 02:01 AM
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I love playing that tune. We keyboardists don't get too many iconic power-chord moments like that.

The trick to the "solo" is that he adds an extra note to the arpeggios about halfway through, turning it from 8ths to triplets.

When I pulled my R3 back out I noticed that one of the vintage sounds was called "OBJUMPR," and honestly never thought anything of it, sort of mentally assuming it was a mono sound with a big glide or something that made it "jump." Then one day I was like, "ohhhhh......duhhhhh!!" It sounds great, too.


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015724 11/12/19 03:11 AM
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Okay! I admit it! I am learning the keyboard part to JUMP! There i said it! blush


Is that all!!
You scared me. I thought you were gonna say

YOU USED A TRANSPOSE BUTTON!!!!!!!! freak


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The only tricky part ... where some bands will fall apart ... is the guitar lead. Its not hard, its just different patter. and everyone needs to be on the same accent timing (keys bass and drums). I never hit the solo rap “slow down” exactly as Eddie did either. Doesn’t matter as long as you hit that first of the (solo) ending notes on the beat. Pretty easy solo, even i can play it lol.


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015730 11/12/19 04:05 AM
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Great song and part let's be honest.


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015734 11/12/19 04:46 AM
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It's sorta ironic that one of the most famous keyboard riffs was written by a guitarist....

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Do most of you pro guys consider the proper way is to play a part like in Jump EXACTLY like it was recorded?

Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015741 11/12/19 05:23 AM
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Note for note.


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Originally Posted by paulkondig
Well, i thought there was a stigma with this song. Especially on this forum. Like guitarists and Stairway to heaven.

People in clubs jump and dance to Jump. People in clubs exit to Stairway. Even though they're both classics, they're not comparable when it comes to live performance. Jump is good...

Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: Steve Nathan] #3015752 11/12/19 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Nathan
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Okay! I admit it! I am learning the keyboard part to JUMP! There i said it! blush


Is that all!!
You scared me. I thought you were gonna say

YOU USED A TRANSPOSE BUTTON!!!!!!!! freak


Nah!


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015776 11/12/19 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Synthoid
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I didn’t expect The Spanish Inquisition?


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015796 11/12/19 03:22 PM
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I thought this thread was going to be about an x stand.

Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: eric] #3015800 11/12/19 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eric
I thought this thread was going to be about an x stand.


Not THAT cardinal rule!


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Originally Posted by paulkondig
I didn’t expect The Spanish Inquisition?


No one does.


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: Marzzz] #3015812 11/12/19 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Marzzz
It's sorta ironic that one of the most famous keyboard riffs was written by a guitarist....


Maybe because relatively simpler riffs (holding a bass note in left hand while using simple triads in right) can be played by a much larger group of players than more difficult riffs.


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: paulkondig] #3015813 11/12/19 05:03 PM
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The song is the riff and the riff is catchy. Doesn't matter who played it.

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The only cardinal rule you broke was telling us about it.


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Originally Posted by Delaware Dave
The only cardinal rule you broke was telling us about it.


I wasn’t supposed to tell anyone? ohmy


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Originally Posted by paulkondig
Originally Posted by Delaware Dave
The only cardinal rule you broke was telling us about it.


I wasn’t supposed to tell anyone? ohmy


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Fantastic part. So fun to play and actually pretty cool.


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Originally Posted by EscapeRocks
Originally Posted by paulkondig
Originally Posted by Delaware Dave
The only cardinal rule you broke was telling us about it.


I wasn’t supposed to tell anyone? ohmy


What Happens in Van Halen, Stays in Van Halen



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I'm actually at my most nervous when I'm playing an exposed simple part that everyone knows so well. Even though I probably won't catch a clam, I'm kinda terrified that I might and everyone will notice it. I might also show up for the gig wearing only my underwear -- it's that kind of fear.


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WOW! ohmy


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Re: I broke a cardinal rule [Re: mate stubb] #3015834 11/12/19 05:58 PM
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Sanity! Now that’s funny!
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