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Full hollow. Two P90s. Sort of does it"s own thing. Talks back to amp well. I"m hoping with the smaller body the feedback is manageable. I like it. The bridge pickup has enough edge to rock. The middle position can dial in nice sounds. Nicely surprised.

 

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Full hollow. Two P90s. Sort of does it"s own thing. Talks back to amp well. I"m hoping with the smaller body the feedback is manageable. I like it. The bridge pickup has enough edge to rock. The middle position can dial in nice sounds. Nicely surprised.

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. :cool::rawk: Those are a number of things that I really like.

 

Nice color, by the way.

 

There"s always the option of cramming little pieces of foam rubber inside to combat feedback.

Now why would anyone wanna do that? ;)

 

MOST of the time, I LOVE feedback. Well, if it's the 'musical' kind, harmonic-overtone laden sustaining singing controllable with my muting and damping with either hand, and my guitar's volume-knobs. I even use a gizmo to MAKE feedback happen, on purpose.

 

I can do a very convincing air-raid siren, if say so myself.

 

But I digress; I know whatcha mean. Runaway uncontrollable noises gettin' in the way of everyone's' good times.

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Uncle Ted was a master of taming those spruce top Brydlands in a high volume environment.

"It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne

 

"A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!!

So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt

 

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Honeymoon ended pretty quick. LOL.

 

No, I like the sound a lot. I think I"m going to gig it. I need Strap Locks. The tuning drifts. I think I"ll get the same Kluson Revolution locking tuners my tech put on my Junior. I like those tuners. Intonation is off on 3 strings.

 

At first I thought it was going to be like an older pawn shop Korean Sheraton II I bought as a placeholder until I decided to get back into 335 land. But I love that Sheraton and never modded a thing except added strap locks. But I think this is going to need tuners or nut work.

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So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt

 

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Consider the new Graph Tech Ratio tuners, they are excellent. I prefer locking tuners, you can replace a broken string very quickly at a gig. That is an option with the Ratios.

They should have a mounting bracket that is a direct fit, an easy install that you could do yourself with a screwdriver and a crescent wrench. That will save the cost of an install.

 

Try the new D'Addario Xl set, the ones with the black package with a big X on it.

They sent me a set to try out, many gigs later and they are still holding tune better than any string I've tried to date (most of them!!!!). Plus they still sound great. New tech and very good.

 

Also try sharpening a pencil and drawing a nice, slippery graphite line in the nut slots. Usually strings will make a "tink" sound if they are getting hung up in the nut.

A guitar with a floating tailpiece will always be less stable for tuning than one with a tailpiece that does not move. If you end up bonding with the guitar, consider using spacers and just screwing the string end of the tailpiece down solid to the body. That should help.

 

I use washers, about 5/8" with a small center hole, for strap buttons. I've got an 86 Gibson 335 Studio that I mounted a strap on in 88. It is still there.

It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is.
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+1 on locking tuners (I like Grover) especially if you're having a tuning machine problem, as it's a great upgrade either way. If you checked the neck relief (truss rod) and the action (bridge height) and both seemed OK, I would hold on any modifications and set the intonation on those 3 strings. That alone can cause tuning issues and can be done in a few minutes with a good tuner at no cost. Me, I prefer a wound 3rd. Before doing your own set up, I would put a set of new strings (the ones you like using best) on the guitar to start with. Strap locks can be done at anytime... :cool:

 

ps. maybe a drop of nut lube would be helpful...

Take care, Larryz
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I bought one of these for pretty cheap from a kid who got it for Christmas and got bored before really learning to play... we were doing a Sgt. Pepper's and Magical Mystery Tour and I needed it for some of the songs.

 

Mine needs some frets dressed... when I lowered the action to where I liked it some dead spots emerged. I also ordered the GFS pickups and pots tp swap out, but I haven't gotten around to it, yet. I wanted the pickups to be a little brighter than they were, looking into that it comes down to output... I think the main customer base for these is younger kids who expect higher output, and P90s sparkle best when they're wound for a little lower output...

 

Feedback? On the Beatles shows I was playing as quietly as possible, because I was sharing the stage with a horn section and string section and none of those people are used to electric volume, so my amp was next to my vocal monitor as low as I could get it or under the stage or in a room backstage somewhere. Feedback wasn't a problem (unless I leaned in to get it specifically). I used it as a slide guitar for a Tom Petty tribute thing, with a compressor, and I battled it squealing in the show when everything gradually crept up in volume... I stepped away from the line of fire of my amps and that helped... I blame myself for that, not the guitar. I should've known what worked in soundcheck would creep up during the show (no matter how much I beg guys NOT to do that...).

 

There is a cult of people who buy these and mod them and swear by them.

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I also ordered the GFS pickups and pots tp swap out, but I haven't gotten around to it, yet. I wanted the pickups to be a little brighter than they were, looking into that it comes down to output... I think the main customer base for these is younger kids who expect higher output, and P90s sparkle best when they're wound for a little lower output...

The P-90 "soap-bars" that were in the "Ruby" Les Paul Studio Gem that I used to have, effectively a custom-colored '56 Les Paul style axe, had larger pole-pieces than usual and may or may not have been wound just little on the hot side; they were warm and fat, in a way that I loved, very "Leslie West"/"Mississippi Queen", if ya know what I mean... ;) If I rolled-back the bridge-pickup's volume-knob just a tad and added the correct attitude to my picking-hand attack, I could elicit very convincing Broadcaster/Telecaster shootin' sparks kinda tones. I believe that the greater mass and solidity of the "Nashville" T-o-M bridge helped there, as well. Rolled back up, and it was fat Les Paul city.

 

I also lowered the bass-sides and raised the treble-sides of each pickup, while conversely raising the bass-poles and lowering the treble-poles accordingly by a similar, opposite amount.

 

This added more sparkle and harmonic-overtone-swirl to the wound-bass strings, and fatter, rounder, warmer tone to the plain-treble strings. I tend to do that with all of my pickups. This really emphasized their classic P-90 character, "low-keys-on-a-piano" bass-strings, round bell and harp like tones on the treble-strings...

 

I dream of not only finding another one like that to replace it, but also having three of them, three Rubies, so that I could keep one in Standard Tuning, one in Open-A/Open-G, and one in Open-D/Dm/DADGAD, all three sportin' multiple 'benders, probably three apiece... :crazy::love: Dare to dream! :D

 

Feedback? On the Beatles shows I was playing as quietly as possible, because I was sharing the stage with a horn section and string section and none of those people are used to electric volume, so my amp was next to my vocal monitor as low as I could get it or under the stage or in a room backstage somewhere. Feedback wasn't a problem (unless I leaned in to get it specifically). I used it as a slide guitar for a Tom Petty tribute thing, with a compressor, and I battled it squealing in the show when everything gradually crept up in volume... I stepped away from the line of fire of my amps and that helped... I blame myself for that, not the guitar. I should've known what worked in soundcheck would creep up during the show (no matter how much I beg guys NOT to do that...).

 

Now, are you talkin' string-vibrating feedback, or squealing, whistling, electronic-noise feedback from microphonic pickups and/or electronic parasitic-oscillation and such?

 

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It's a nice looking guitar. I could see myself getting one some day, although I'd get a cherry red one, to fit that chuck Berry image. Hmmm, I think I'll have to play one the next time I'm at a music store.

 

I wanted the red one just because my #1 is red. My Junior is red. I thought I could gig with all red guitars. Kind of silly I know. But this was what was in the shop and sounded good in the store. But this will work with Black shirt, white pants... kind of petty I know but that is business. ð

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I"ve been playing this quite a bit. It now has locking Kluson tuners.

 

Held notes between 9th and 15th frets don"t sustain so well. That may be the nature of these. It has the stock bridge and Chinese plastic nut. Wondering if a upgraded bridge and decent nut would make a difference. Tuning stability is great so I don"t need any help there.

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The nut only affects the tone of open strings unless it is spectacularly hefty. A heavy bridge will help. It may not sound like a hollow body anymore.

 

It is one of the notable character flaws of hollow body guitars that the response can be uneven, with some notes ringing out and others just sort of dying.

It may also be related to the floating tailpiece and the length of the strings on that side of the bridge. A solid, longer tailpiece would even up the response as well.

At that point it might as well be a semi-hollow or solid body guitar.

 

I used to try and play Gretsch hollowbodies live because they looked cool and played great. They also howled, except when I'd hit a note and get more or less a thuddy toned "blonk". Those were at various places on the neck, depending on which guitar and which pickup.

 

Drove me nuts so I went back to semi hollow or solid bodies for gigging.

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Held notes between 9th and 15th frets don"t sustain so well.

Just to leave no stone unturned here: make sure that the relief and action- particularly the relief- are allowing enough 'breathing space' for the vibrating strings, that there's enough relief, up-bow, to allow the strings to vibrate without ever so slightly buzzing against the frets and being robbed of sustain. Not too much, but enough.

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I"ve been playing this quite a bit. It now has locking Kluson tuners.

 

Held notes between 9th and 15th frets don"t sustain so well. That may be the nature of these. It has the stock bridge and Chinese plastic nut. Wondering if a upgraded bridge and decent nut would make a difference. Tuning stability is great so I don"t need any help there.

 

I love these Schaller Roller Bridges, and put them on all of my T.O.M.-equipped Guitars. They now come with posts for either U.S. or Import Guitars, so it'll work on your Casino. They add a little mass, as well which help with sustain. If you want to save a few $$$, Stew-Mac also offers some Golden Age Roller Bridges, but I don't know about the posts for them?

 

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Lovely looking guitar.

 

I picked up a full size version in October past. It's quite quickly became a firm favourite. I'd go so far as to say its even replaced my long suffering Telecaster. Like yours though, the setup is not quite perfect out of the box. The action is just a tad higher than I'd like, the tuning wanders a little and there's a little 'choking' and buzz. However the pickups are perfectly balanced, and the sound through my Vox amps and whatever Helix model is flavour of the moment is to die for. Gorgeous cleans and raunchy breakup. It did take me a while to get used to controlling the feedback when playing at volume but it was far from a show stopper.

 

I will get it set up properly when the current Covid madness subsides enough for me to visit the tech.

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